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Old 09-25-03, 08:20 AM
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MP3 Players: IPod or wait for the Karma..or maybe the Philips?

I want to get a large HD-based MP3 player in the next few months, looking at the 20 gig range.

The IPod looks cool, but it's MP3 and ACC only, also I think you have to send it in to replace the battery.

I think I prefer the upcoming Rio Karma: it's a little smaller than the IPod, supports FLAC (which kicks MP3's ass) and Ogg Vorbis, has a user serviceable battery and a few more features. I do have serious concerns about Rio's proprietary software package, it looks unstable.

There are plenty of other options either available now or soon: the Philips looks cool with a magnesium cover and lots of recording options, the Creative Zen NX is supposed to be pretty good, IRiver is (finally) coming out with a jukebox that promises to be great etc.

Any suggestions?
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The iPod is great.
The Zen is great too.

Rio has had a good track record in the past. Provided that the Karma supports USB2.0 High Speed, or FireWire, I don't see any reason not to pick it.
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Very interested in this as well... which one would you recommend for working out? (small/lightweight)
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I'd recommend the iPod. Best MP3 player on the market, by far.
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Originally posted by jbrotheim
Very interested in this as well... which one would you recommend for working out? (small/lightweight)
I would get a large capacity flash-based player to maximize durability and eliminate moving parts. Rio is going to sell a waterproof, compact flash based player with a GIG of RAM this year. That one might be perfect for you.

For me: my exercise consists of blinking, so HD-based, here I come.
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Creative Zen and the Karma are the better HD based mp3 players, not to start a flame war, but the sound quality is not stellar on Ipod, even with great headphones and high quality encodes. Not only that, the controls are too...how should I say...."innovative"

Other mp3 players have more traditional controls that can be easily fixed with basic electronics knoweldge, I suspect an Ipod would have to be rushed to Apple if ever defective
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Originally posted by evenflow
I'd recommend the iPod. Best MP3 player on the market, by far.
i agree with that statement
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Originally posted by sararekuforever
Creative Zen and the Karma are the better HD based mp3 players, not to start a flame war, but the sound quality is not stellar on Ipod, even with great headphones and high quality encodes. Not only that, the controls are too...how should I say...."innovative"

Other mp3 players have more traditional controls that can be easily fixed with basic electronics knoweldge, I suspect an Ipod would have to be rushed to Apple if ever defective
Are you saying that the Apple's controls are hard to use or hard to fix if they break?
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The iPod rocks plain and simple. I have the older 20 gig model and it is great.
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Well, actually, I'd say both.

Before using an Ipod, I expected super ismple and intelligent controls, at least as good as a good cd's player mode [simple buttons, with some neat programming features], but I just found it to be repulsive....knobs, buttons, and text work a lot better for me.
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IPod VS. Rio Karma:
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since it is HD based (which I had forgotten about) does it skip/get messed up with movement?


Originally posted by Hiro11
I would get a large capacity flash-based player to maximize durability and eliminate moving parts. Rio is going to sell a waterproof, compact flash based player with a GIG of RAM this year. That one might be perfect for you.

For me: my exercise consists of blinking, so HD-based, here I come.
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I couldn't be happier with the ipod, and never have problems with it skipping, even when I take it to the gym and run etc.
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go with the Ipod. I couldn't be more happy with mine.
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It's all about the Creative Jukeboxes you guys. Be it Nomad Jukebox 3(which I have) or the Zen (which I want badly).
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Originally posted by Kal Jedi
It's all about the Creative Jukeboxes you guys. Be it Nomad Jukebox 3(which I have) or the Zen (which I want badly).
Yup, the Zen rocks. Better sound than the Ipod, good controls, snazzy metal casing, couple of hundred dollars cheaper...
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Dell has just announced their own Ipod looking deal. You may want to keep tabs on that.
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Just got an Ipod (15 GB) and I love it. They've sold over 1 million of them - must be doing something right.
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I went with the Zen 2.0 and loved it....till it broke. It was my fault though. I like the fact that it's so easy to transplant a larger HD into it (which I did, right before I broke it.)

This RIO Karma is looking cool though, I might get that next time.
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I got a 15gb iPod and will never look back. It's simply incredible.
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how does the 15gb treat you? too much space.. too little.. what vendor did you get it from?
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I just ordered a 10 gig 2nd gen iPod from apple.com for 169 bucks. figured that should suit me well. now i can always have all the They Might Be Giants songs with me just in case.
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Will Napster.com downloads play on my iPod?

Title says it all. Before I download the software, I'm wondering if the downloaded songs will be captive on my PC or if I can sync them to the iPod.
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Go download iTunes

No, Napster has decided to use the WMP format for their downloads. If you want the best downloadable music for your iPod, download iTunes for Windows and enjoy!

Believe me, you won't even miss Napster after 5 minutes.

Enjoy!

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