Looks like Lucas is going with something that will bridge the 70's hairstyles of Episode IV with Episode III. I think he looks a lot cooler right off that bat, hopefully this savlages this franchise.
KenobiKid22
09-16-03, 05:57 PM
That's what I thought when I first seen it. Glad they got a new hair piece for him instead of that Hobbit looking one that appeared on hyperspace and a few sites. There are also a few pictures available on that site, Palpatine and others.
Terrell
09-16-03, 06:01 PM
Edited: Pics not showing up anymore.
KenobiKid22
09-16-03, 06:05 PM
There was some talk about him putting on weight to make the transition more believable. So I guess this means he's putting on the Vader suit?? I know David Prowse has been making a big stink about coming back for EP3 and not being contacted by Lucasfilm etc.
Didn't see that C-3PO pic, nice to see him in all Gold coverings.
Jackskeleton
09-16-03, 06:07 PM
Vader wont be complete by the end of episode III. there is talks that anakin will have that Vader look, just not entirely completed.
Terrell
09-16-03, 06:11 PM
there is talks that anakin will have that Vader look, just not entirely completed.
That's been debunked though. There was some fan art popping up in places, but according to the webcam and Pablo, Vader will look like the Vader in the originals. The only real question is how much time is he onscreen. I know one of his lines is that "I DON'T FEAR"!
I imagine that's as good as 3PO will ever look. It's all downhill from there for 3PO.
Numanoid
09-16-03, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Vader wont be complete by the end of episode III. there is talks that anakin will have that Vader look, just not entirely completed.
Wait a minute...how can Vader not be complete in III? He's not going to have the accident and get the suit here? That wouldn't make any sense. Are the fans just supposed to fill in the blank between III and IV and wonder why a good lookin' white boy is now running around in hardcore fetish gear?
KenobiKid22
09-16-03, 06:13 PM
Jackskeleton, do you remember that quote from Lucas about the Vader suit? It was something along the lines of "Vaders suit will consist of items from various characters that we have seen in the PT". Any idea what they could be? I always thought of the Tusken Raiders and the Robotic guy from EP2, Wat Tambor.
Numanoid
09-16-03, 06:14 PM
Those jawas are HUGE! :eek:
;)
Jackskeleton
09-16-03, 06:15 PM
Kenobi, Yeah, lucas stated that, but I stand with it. He wont be in a full Vader suit. it's going to look like vader.. but with a lot of his outfit missing. a sort of bits and pieces of it. it will be a sort of beta outfit. ;) but it will have the vader look to it.
KenobiKid22
09-16-03, 06:18 PM
Exactly that's what I want to see, but still in the same theme as Vader from the OT.
Jackskeleton
09-16-03, 06:19 PM
One thing I also learned.. don't trust lucas with what he says. recall the hard core Bounty hunter we were suppose to see more of in Ep II since we only saw 5 seconds of her in Ep I... yeah... point made. ;)
zero mentioned to me that it looks very Luke Like.. I'll have to say that he should have looked this way back in Episode I..
KenobiKid22
09-16-03, 06:22 PM
Yeah, I found that out with EP2 also. Just with the the disapearing Jedi trick that was supposed to be explained in EP2, as GL stated several times. He now says EP3 will tie that whole thing up, not holding my breath for that.
Kicker_of_Elves
09-16-03, 06:23 PM
Is that a cut/scar on the left side of his face going down from his eyebrow to underneath his eye?
I think he looks cool btw..
zero
09-16-03, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
One thing I also learned.. don't trust lucas with what he says. recall the hard core Bounty hunter we were suppose to see more of in Ep II since we only saw 5 seconds of her in Ep I... yeah... point made. ;)
zero mentioned to me that it looks very Luke Like.. I'll have to say that he should have looked this way back in Episode I..
Maybe he got into a car accident before production? Hmm.. looks like we are going to see more wampa's in Ep III. ;)
KenobiKid22
09-16-03, 06:29 PM
Does anyone have that pic of Obi Wan that was posted on TheForce and other sites? It was from Bike Mag he appeared in that was shot on the set of EP3. I'll try to dig it up he looked very much like OT Obi Wan
I didn't even notice the Bai Ling pic, I was hoping she was going to be playing Asajj Ventress from the Clone War comics. When they announced her casting they had an image of her with her head shaved, which led to all the fan boys dreams of Assajj. She would have made a good Asajj. Some pics for comparison.
If Episode III bites as bad as Episode II, then the entire series gets bogged down, and the first 3 are diminished. Kind of like new Aerosmith diminishing what might have been America's greatest rock band.
Giantrobo
09-18-03, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by The Nature Boy
If Episode III bites as bad as Episode II, then the entire series gets bogged down, and the first 3 are diminished. Kind of like new Aerosmith diminishing what might have been America's greatest rock band.
Uhm...ok
Terrell
09-18-03, 06:59 AM
If Episode III bites as bad as Episode II, then the entire series gets bogged down, and the first 3 are diminished.
That's not even remotely true. The originals don't suddenly become bad movies just because some are disappointed by the new movies. They remain great films regardless. Nothing will change that. As for the other part of your statement, I guess that would depend if you thought Episide II bites. I thought it was quite good aside from a couple of love scenes.
who's that dude anyway?
That's Hayden Christensen, who played Anakin in AOTC. You can't tell?
BlackBeauty92
09-18-03, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
That's Hayden Christensen, who played Anakin in AOTC. You can't tell?
OMG!! :eek: is he really?? :eek:
wow...
i can't really remember his face (& not even gonna try to)....
so, Pinocchio is back doing Star Wars 3, huh?!
what a surprise... really
well, thanx for the info terrell :)
Daytrip
09-18-03, 04:36 PM
Attack of the Clones, not The Phantom Menace
Joe-buck.ca
09-18-03, 05:14 PM
all that hair gone to waste in a few years. should have saved up for the imperial Hair club for men. man it's just all a waste.
Shh he get's it from his fathers side of the family! if he had a father, that is.
Terrell
09-18-03, 05:37 PM
so, Pinocchio is back doing Star Wars 3, huh?!
:hscratch:
KenobiKid22
09-18-03, 05:55 PM
I'm really confused now.
Kal-El
09-18-03, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
That's not even remotely true. The originals don't suddenly become bad movies just because some are disappointed by the new movies. They remain great films regardless. Nothing will change that.
Couldn't agree more. I was just watching my "acquired" copy of the OT the other night. I was just going to "take a peek" at empire and ended up watching the whole shebang.
BlackBeauty92
09-18-03, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
:hscratch:
*steping up to stage*
ehem..
well, he's acting was so bad, he reminds me of wooden-stick-boy Pinocchio... STIFF
hahahhaa :lol:
aaww... not funny :(
sorry
*steping down from stage*
Terrell
09-18-03, 09:25 PM
he's acting was so bad
That would be his, not he's.
KenobiKid22
09-18-03, 09:30 PM
:johnwoo:
BlackBeauty92
09-18-03, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
That would be his, not he's.
sorry, sorry again...
:D
jeffkjoe
09-18-03, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
That's not even remotely true. The originals don't suddenly become bad movies just because some are disappointed by the new movies. They remain great films regardless. Nothing will change that.
I am a STAR WARS fan, and I have to disagree with the above statement.
I do think that the prequels have "tarnished" the STAR WARS name, in a way, because they really put the spotlight on how much Lucas is lacking as a director/writer.
The batting average of the STAR WARS saga, before the prequels, was a .999
Now, it's more like a .700
So, now, about that new hair............
Kal-El
09-18-03, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by jeffkjoe
I am a STAR WARS fan, and I have to disagree with the above statement.
I do think that the prequels have "tarnished" the STAR WARS name, in a way, because they really put the spotlight on how much Lucas is lacking as a director/writer.
The batting average of the STAR WARS saga, before the prequels, was a .999
Now, it's more like a .700
So, now, about that new hair............
I think you're confusing George the creator with the Movies. So now when you watch Star Wars, they're suddenly BAD movies for you?
Jackskeleton
09-18-03, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by jeffkjoe
I am a STAR WARS fan, and I have to disagree with the above statement.
I do think that the prequels have "tarnished" the STAR WARS name, in a way, because they really put the spotlight on how much Lucas is lacking as a director/writer.
The batting average of the STAR WARS saga, before the prequels, was a .999
Now, it's more like a .700
So, now, about that new hair............
Oh I'm sorry, we didn't get the insight from a Star Wars Fan before yours. You do realize that there is plenty of fans who dont see it that way. Being a fan myself I have to disagree. of course I have pretty much all versions of the film from vhs to LD to bootleg dvd, I have to say that the originals are only tainted by how out of date they have become. that is the real testiment. I can still look at the OT and seperate it from the prequels. just because you dislike one, it doesn't make the others bad. that lower batting average might just be because you feel you have been cheated. it's funny talking to star wars nut jobs who have opposing views on these subject. talk to anyone who is a film fan and they will tell you that they want to see what the director intended.. thus the directors cut is born and viewed as the master of all copies... well all except when it comes to star wars. For Star Wars, the Directors cut is the one that they hate the most. why? because greedo shoots first and lucas raped and pillaged their childhood with such scenes. all stupidity if you ask me. the originals are out there on one format or another.. chances are you don't even have the originals in the bootlegged version you have since even before it was cool to bitch about the fixed versions, they were altered slightly before. :p either way, the OT is still untouched and the same to me before and after the prequels.
not to mention the irony of folks hating how things are changed. take for example fett. he is dead. he died in a sarlac pit. end of story. I can't see why the fans felt it was alright and dandy to go back and eat it up when the comics claimed he was alive and survived the pit. it's not canon to the story, but hey, the fans wanted to change things around because they liked the character. But once the director wants to change the film around, in some aspects to please the fans.. bam! pretty much cursed at because his new vision didn't meet the fans vision. blah.
speaking as a star wars fan I can say that we totally suck and don't know what we want.. but we know that we want to bitch about it.
Vegas9203
09-18-03, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
That would be his, not he's.
look out, the grammatical correction!
lesterlong
09-18-03, 10:18 PM
Interesting replies. I have to agree that the new movies have zero effect on how great the original trilogy is. Although I have to wonder when people start listing their fav Star Wars films and they put AOTC above ROTJ. Now, Return of the Jedi was no masterpiece but it was still miles better than Clones. There's no comparison. About Lucas and the director's cut thing. Well I think its more if you agree with that director's intentions then go for it. Lucas is not the only director I'd say no to a DC from. Its rough being a Star Wars fan, full of anticipation and disappointment.
jeffkjoe
09-18-03, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Oh I'm sorry, we didn't get the insight from a Star Wars Fan before yours.
Well, of course I didn't mean that I am the know-all, be-all sayer of the Universe, but as a Star Wars fan, I am entitled to my humble opinion.
Now, let's get back to the Anakin pic....I believe that is the whole point of this thread.
The Nature Boy
09-18-03, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
That's not even remotely true. The originals don't suddenly become bad movies just because some are disappointed by the new movies. They remain great films regardless. Nothing will change that. As for the other part of your statement, I guess that would depend if you thought Episide II bites. I thought it was quite good aside from a couple of love scenes.
Actually, it is true, as I see it. They aren't bad, but in retrospect, I overlooked a lot of stuff I never would have reexamined. These prequels were much better in my mind and the minds of many Star Wars fans than they've emerged to be in practice. Part of the Star Wars magic was just this mythic mixture that produced these very fresh, original and enjoyable movies. The clamor for the prequels was fueled by that intangible that left so many people being so devoted to these films. I myself was never a complete disciple, but I found them immensely enjoyable, I never even considered the next 3 could be anything less than brillant. But they lack magic, and magic was half the power of Star Wars, and that untouchability, that magic, has vanished in Episode IV, V and VI. Again, look at stuff that hangs on too long. Aerosmith, Saturday Night Live, the Simpsons. All these things will feature their diehards that proclaim them to be "better than ever" but use your own gauge. The latter day work of all those properties has soured the earlier work with me without question. If the next Star Wars movie sucks, that will be 2 great ones, one good one, and 2-3 bad ones(I go back and forth on Episode I). If the prequels suck, I can never view the originals the same way.
zero
09-19-03, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by jeffkjoe
Well, of course I didn't mean that I am the know-all, be-all sayer of the Universe, but as a Star Wars fan, I am entitled to my humble opinion.
Now, let's get back to the Anakin pic....I believe that is the whole point of this thread.
In the words of Red Leader....STAY ON TARGET.
Look why dont we all just email Harry Knowles at AintItMyCrappyWEbsitebecauseIknowitallnews.crap and ask him if some "mystery guy" has sneaked him a "exclusive" look at Epsidoe III since he is SUCH a great journalist.
Kal-El
09-19-03, 03:26 AM
HEEEEEEEEEEEERE'S TARKIN!!!!
http://www.dirtyrubbish.com/jc/tarkin.jpg
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A unknown insider known only as Timberwolf was working in set construction for Episode III - employed up until recently by JAK films. Now that the production company has left after working on SW3 for several months, they've given us a single glimpse of a character in the new film. The story goes that they obtained photographs using someone else's camera and swapped the memory cards over to theirs. They've been sitting on this for several months after covertly taking this shot in the Creature Shop when nobody was around some morning very early on. According to the insider, the picture of this character was situated on a wall just inside the entrance.
zero
09-19-03, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by Kal Jedi
HEEEEEEEEEEEERE'S TARKIN!!!!
http://www.dirtyrubbish.com/jc/tarkin.jpg
:jawdrop:
Jackskeleton
09-19-03, 03:33 AM
yarr.. And I was about to post that picture up. aye, beaten by time.
Kicker_of_Elves
09-19-03, 03:53 AM
That is seriously messed up how much they look alike
Terrell
09-19-03, 09:10 AM
Actually, it is true, as I see it.
that untouchability, that magic, has vanished in Episode IV, V and VI.
No offense, but that's stupid. If that's the case, can you tell me why Star Wars is still the most talked about subject on every board on the internet. Can you tell me why people still yearn for the originals on DVD and bitch about it constantly. Nothing about the first 3 changes because some fanboys are disappointed with the new ones. You're arguing that ESB suddenly becomes a bad film if you don't like Episode III, and that's ridiculous. Now, your interest may wane in Star Wars if you end up disappointed in the prequels, but that doesn't change the great films they are.
The latter day work of all those properties has soured the earlier work with me without question.
If the prequels suck, I can never view the originals the same way.
Well, that's your own personal problem. That doesn't mean others feel the same way. Whether you're a Star Wars fan after the prequels is something you'll have to decide for yourself. It's not a requirement that you be a Star Wars fan, ya know! You don't have to be one now. Since you didn't like the first two, why bother with Episode III. Pass it by and move on to something else.
As for the originals, something tells me when and if the originals are put out on DVD, you'll be right there, eager and excited to shell out your hard earned money, again.
You do realize that there is plenty of fans who dont see it that way.
Probably the vast majority. Still, these arguments have been beaten to death. I don't have much desire to argue this point for the umpteenth time. The originals are great films. That never changes. End of story. There is one thing I find amusing though. People always tend to enforce the fact that they are Star Wars fans before they start in with the criticism. I've always found that funny.
Now, Return of the Jedi was no masterpiece but it was still miles better than Clones.
Well, I've always maintained Jedi was a very good film that was the weakest of the original trilogy, but was not a weak film by any means. It sure is a hell of an entertaining one. You ask most people who like Star Wars, and I gurantee you most like Jedi the most.
Now, can we get back to the topic of this thread please! This is not a thread about arguing the merits of the prequels. It's about a single picture.
Originally posted by Terrell
No offense, but that's stupid. If that's the case, can you tell me why Star Wars is still the most talked about subject on every board on the internet. Can you tell me why people still yearn for the originals on DVD and bitch about it constantly. Nothing about the first 3 changes because some fanboys are disappointed with the new ones. You're arguing that ESB suddenly becomes a bad film if you don't like Episode III, and that's ridiculous. Now, your interest may wane in Star Wars if you end up disappointed in the prequels, but that doesn't change the great films they are.
Well then I live with being stupid, in your eyes. I don't feel like I am. The yearnings of people are not my concern, they also yean for the Adventures of Ford Fairlaine. And when the OT comes out AND Ford Fairlaine comes out, I will buy them both. I like them, but that does not make them great movies. But I do think Star Wars and Empire are GREAT movies, regardless of how you slice it.
Now I've never been able to put my finger on the fanboy tag. You seem to be bashing me and tagging me a fanboy, and looking down your nose as though you are not one yourself(whatever the hell a "fanboy" is). But to me, my working definition definately includes blind defense of a property(ala Star Trek or the Matrix). I've chosen to look critically at the last two films, and when I share the real consideration that it would tarnish my Episode I-VI experience, the hounds come out. Guess what, I"m not alone. And nobody wants to lose their love, Lucas is beating it out of use, reel by digital reel. Part of the mystique and greatness is what Lucas created. This little bolt of genius crafted this universe and let us all visit and it was as if by some divine luck we got this art called Star Wars. It truly was greater than the sum of it's parts. But now instead of thinking the first 3 movies were inspired destiny, and carrying that good feeling to the next three, I get the feeling more and more that they were just luck. And the best movie wasn't even directed by Lucas, and all sorts of negativity that I would have never been so inclined to explore if the last two movies weren't so shoddy. Maybe I've crossed to the darkside. So in bringing out my critical eye, I used to enjoy the OT like candy, now I read the nutritional label and see the real deal. Same content, just seen a different way, not necessarily for the better.
Well, that's your own personal problem. That doesn't mean others feel the same way. Whether you're a Star Wars fan after the prequels is something you'll have to decide for yourself. It's not a requirement that you be a Star Wars fan, ya know! You don't have to be one now. Since you didn't like the first two, why bother with Episode III. Pass it by and move on to something else.
As for the originals, something tells me when and if the originals are put out on DVD, you'll be right there, eager and excited to shell out your hard earned money, again.
Where did I say I wouldn't buy it on DVD if they came out? I own the last two on DVD, why wouldn't I own the first 3? I got them cheap and I do screen them every so often, hoping to find something to love. I think that's what the Star Wars apologists ignore. We do live in very negative society, and we wait for people to fail, things to suck, but I genuinely believe that people WANTED this to be great. Hence the kind reactions to a substandard Episode I. But after Episode II, people like me are simply worried about the franchise, which was my post that started this.
Probably the vast majority. Still, these arguments have been beaten to death. I don't have much desire to argue this point for the umpteenth time. The originals are great films. That never changes. End of story. There is one thing I find amusing though. People always tend to enforce the fact that they are Star Wars fans before they start in with the criticism. I've always found that funny.
Well, I think it's a valid inclusion, because if you hated the original movies, who really cares about your opinion on the second set of movies? Chances are you WOULD hate the second set, I've never met anyone who liked the last 2 but hated the first 3.
kcbrett5
09-19-03, 01:29 PM
What you are all missing is that you saw the original star wars 26 years ago and most of us were just kids back then. It has achieved mythical status since then. Nothing made now can come close to what was done then because you dont really remember how you felt watching it so long ago. You know now how you think you felt then and that is not going to be duplicated now.
If you look at the movies back then as critically as you look at the movies now, you will see that the original star wars starts off very slow. It seems like forever before Luke, Han and Obi wan finallly leave to go to the death star. (much like the obnoxiously slow start to attack of the clones). And Return of the Jedi is quite possibly the worst acted movie I have ever seen. Even Harrison Ford was awful in it. The scene where Luke tells Leia they are brother and sister is unwatchable to me.
I was the biggest fan as a kid. I had every toy and action figure ever made at one point when I was like 10. I love those movies and I love the new ones. But the new ones will never be as good as the old and there is no way I will think any less of the old ones because of that.
Terrell
09-19-03, 02:02 PM
Well then I live with being stupid, in your eyes.
Please make the distinction. I didn't call you stupid. I called your notion that the originals instantly become bad films because of disappointment with the prequels as stupid.
And the best movie wasn't even directed by Lucas
Well, that's strictly a matter of opinion. The one Star Wars film that was nominated for a Best Picture Oscar, and the one that started the whole phenomenon, was directed by Lucas. If the original hadn't been so great, Star Wars would have never gotten off the ground. Empire would have never been made. But go ahead. Lucas bashers are usually the first to start taking credit away from the man that created Star Wars in the first place.
I love those movies and I love the new ones. But the new ones will never be as good as the old and there is no way I will think any less of the old ones because of that.
That makes a lot of sense, and I wholeheartedly agree.
I own the last two on DVD
Help me understand this, because I never have. Why in God's name do people who don't like the prequels, buy them on DVD? It makes no sense. I don't care if you spend $2 on each DVD. Why waste one red cent on these DVDs if you don't like the films in the first place?
pquote]people like me are simply worried about the franchise, which was my post that started this.[/quote]
Why? It's like Lucas said. At the end of the day, these are just 2 hour pieces of entertainment. People shouldn't live and die by these things. Why get so worried over something you can control? Was Star Wars a monumental film that impacted film, pop culture, and an entire generation of people? Of course. But still, Lucas is right. They're movies. Besides, except for a couple of bad love scenes, I thought AOTC was quite good. But since I don't have any control over them, I'm not going to worry myself to death over them.
I just can't leave well enough alone.
Daytrip
09-19-03, 02:38 PM
it's called nostalgia.........when you are a kid the movies you watch, the music you listen to, all of it seems to be better than the new stuff coming out. not to say that the new star wars movies aren't garbage, but ask an 11 year old kid 15 years from now and i bet he'll say that the new Episode 7 movie "isn't made like they used to"
Terrell
09-19-03, 02:44 PM
he'll say that the new Episode 7 movie "isn't made like they used to"
Good point, but since there will never be an Episode 7......;)
The Nature Boy
09-19-03, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
Why? It's like Lucas said. At the end of the day, these are just 2 hour pieces of entertainment. People shouldn't live and die by these things. Why get so worried over something you can control? Was Star Wars a monumental film that impacted film, pop culture, and an entire generation of people? Of course. But still, Lucas is right. They're movies. Besides, except for a couple of bad love scenes, I thought AOTC was quite good. But since I don't have any control over them, I'm not going to worry myself to death over them.
I just can't leave well enough alone.
I think we disagree on the other points, and it's two differing opinions and that's ok, but I don't think either one of us will convince the other to think differently.
But this is one point I must contend with. I mean, why are you in movie talk if you aren't up for this sort of debate? I don't argue the small details of film in the coffee shop or in the bar. But I do here, becuase I generally assume theres a likeminded convergence of folks who will debate the Star Wars impact.
Lucas at the eye of the storm, I expect him to say nothing less. It's just his job, and a statement like that only reenforces that belief. If felt like it was something more when he started.
But we are free to talk about it. I mean, that's what the love of movies is about where I stand. I cringe when the the shrink goes into the dissertation at the end of psycho. My favorite movie is the Godfather, it's perfect, for me. But if some how Michael Corleone arranged for robots to kill the 5 familes at the end, I would have been hugely dissappointed with it. The director is usually the final arbiter of judgement on a piece, but when things are glaringly amiss, I think debate is healthy. Especially in a piece like Star Wars, where the films are so interconnected. I always view the first three as a single piece. And what a great piece it was, the best trilogy ever for my money. And I think there was hope that it would become the greatest sixpart series ever concieved. But a funny thing happened on the way to that, and the last two don't hold a candle to the first three. And if the final one doesn't successfully connect the trilogies, I'll be enormously let down by the entire Star Wars universe. Yes it's just entertainment, just like a sports team just plays games or a band just puts out albums. But I think we all long to be part of history. To have films stand the test of time, and be able to look at being in on the ground floor of a legacy as a spectator, at the very least. As it is now, Lucas has monkeyed with that potential. Is it the end of the world? No. Do I lose any sleep over it? Nary a wink. But would I like to see these movies good as they can be? You bet your life. And they just aren't right now, where I stand. I hope the last one is, or he's ruining the franchise.
Daytrip
09-19-03, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
Good point, but since there will never be an Episode 7......;)
by then Lucas will just be a head in a jar with a cord hooked to him so he can do the CGI himself
FuzzyBallz
09-19-03, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
That would be his, not he's.
Finally, someone who appreciates good grammar.
Terrell
09-19-03, 04:21 PM
arranged for robots to kill the 5 familes at the end
Well, I can't debate the Godfather movies as I can't stand them. I hate mobster movies and the like. But that's just my opinion.
But I think we all long to be part of history. To have films stand the test of time.
There is no debate here. The Star Wars trilogy has stood the test of time perhaps as good or better than any other film ever has. The constant debate and talk of Star Wars all over the internet is proof of that. It has stood that test of time for a quarter century. Roger Ebert is correct when he states the Star Wars trilogy will be remembered a hundred years from now along with other great films such as The Wizard of Oz and Gone With the Wind.
If you're old enough to have seen the Star Wars trilogy in theaters, you have been a part of history. I know I was, because while I was quite young, I do remember seeing Empire and Jedi in theaters. So I was a part of history. So were you. So what was the point again?
As it is now, Lucas has monkeyed with that potential.
No he hasn't. The SW trilogy has stood the test of time, and will continue to do so. Disappointment by some in the prequels hasn't changed that one iota. It may affect the prequel trilogy's ability to stand the test of time, but not the original trilogy. To be honest, all movies stand the test of time to some extent, if people continue to watch and remember them. Some just do it better than others.
by then Lucas will just be a head in a jar with a cord hooked to him so he can do the CGI himself
:D Nah, Episode III is the end of Star Wars on the big screen, forever.
Daytrip
09-19-03, 04:49 PM
i know.........course i never thought we'd see episode 1-3 either but anything further won't happen
The Nature Boy
09-19-03, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
If you're old enough to have seen the Star Wars trilogy in theaters, you have been a part of history. I know I was, because while I was quite young, I do remember seeing Empire and Jedi in theaters. So I was a part of history. So were you. So what was the point again?
No he hasn't. The SW trilogy has stood the test of time, and will continue to do so. Disappointment by some in the prequels hasn't changed that one iota. It may affect the prequel trilogy's ability to stand the test of time, but not the original trilogy. To be honest, all movies stand the test of time to some extent, if people continue to watch and remember them. Some just do it better than others.
:D Nah, Episode III is the end of Star Wars on the big screen, forever.
Yes I was there for Empire and Jedi. I remember that magic. But the fatal flaw in your logic is to assume that the Star Wars films will be recalled as two separate trilogies in the years ahead. I submit, once the cycle is complete with Episode III, it will become the Star Wars sixlogy(or however you'd say a six part series). The flow to the films is such that you can spend a good long Sunday watching them all back to back to back(and eventually back to back to back to back). But the continuity of quality has been disrupted where I stand, and if you view Star Wars as a whole, not just individual films, then I think the franchise is right now on the ropes as a whole, and could be knocked out with a bad to medicre episode III.
Kal-El
09-19-03, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by The Nature Boy
Yes I was there for Empire and Jedi. I remember that magic. But the fatal flaw in your logic is to assume that the Star Wars films will be recalled as two separate trilogies in the years ahead.
Don't be so sure to bet against that. I know a lot of people (some around here) who claim that there is NO Superman 3 or 4 or that there ever was a Batman & Robin film. No matter what you say, it'll always be Original Trilogy and Prequel Trilogy for the majority of the people.
Terrell
09-19-03, 07:03 PM
I submit, once the cycle is complete with Episode III, it will become the Star Wars sixlogy(or however you'd say a six part series).
Nature Boy, whether they become one sixology, or whatever you want to call it, the fact is the originals have stood the test of time for 25 years. They're not going to suddenly stop standing the test of time, no matter how much it's argued. The impact that these films had are so great that they're going to be remembered long after you and I have left this earth. 25 years of history and the phenomenal impact the films had is not suddenly wiped about by two films that disappointed some people. How you come to that logic I'll never know. Do you honestly believe that in an instant, everything about these films and their history, suddenly disappears. C'mon, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
The Nature Boy
09-19-03, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Terrell
Nature Boy, whether they become one sixology, or whatever you want to call it, the fact is the originals have stood the test of time for 25 years. They're not going to suddenly stop standing the test of time, no matter how much it's argued. The impact that these films had are so great that they're going to be remembered long after you and I have left this earth. 25 years of history and the phenomenal impact the films had is not suddenly wiped about by two films that disappointed some people. How you come to that logic I'll never know. Do you honestly believe that in an instant, everything about these films and their history, suddenly disappears. C'mon, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Well where am I saying the impact will be diminished? Or eliminated, or anything of the sort? I am saying it will resonate less WITH ME. And by the words of many others, I"m not completely alone on this.
By the way, the film has already lost impact with today's generation. Most reference the Lord of the Rings or the Matrix as their trilogies of choice. In no small part because the last two Episodes haven't done a thing for them, obviously.
zero
09-20-03, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by The Nature Boy
Well where am I saying the impact will be diminished? Or eliminated, or anything of the sort? I am saying it will resonate less WITH ME. And by the words of many others, I"m not completely alone on this.
By the way, the film has already lost impact with today's generation. Most reference the Lord of the Rings or the Matrix as their trilogies of choice. In no small part because the last two Episodes haven't done a thing for them, obviously.
You may not be alone but I think the point Terell is trying to drive home is that the "Arguemnts" or "Views" you have are not original, and have been beaten to death on these boards. Whether or not you like or dislike the prequels is ok but he has a hard time believing you because you claim you dislike two prequels yet you own them....contradicting isnt it? And to hell with "today's generation" As we sit here typing away somewhere there is an older brother, a mom, dad, or sister talking to there borther, son, or daughter about a trilogy of movies that they enjoyed when they were younger. Who cares if kids or young adults prefer trenchcoats and machine guns to lightsabers and blasters. Who cares what they think because for every two or three of them there are milllions upon millions of people who still enjoy these films. Now Im begging...can we please stay on topic?
iggystar
09-20-03, 07:29 AM
While you guys argue about grammar and Lucas and the trilogy and the like just wanted to add: Hayden lookes darn good with that semi-mullet.
By the way, the film has already lost impact with today's generation. Most reference the Lord of the Rings or the Matrix as their trilogies of choice. In no small part because the last two Episodes haven't done a thing for them, obviously.
Says who, you? There is absolutely no evidence to that fact. People who talk about movies on message boards and chat rooms make up a significantly small percentage of movie fans. Extremely small. I'd bet more people prefer the original trilogy to the LOTR. But I have no proof of that, just as you have no proof that LOTR is preferred over the original SW trilogy by more people. I seriously doubt that, but we'll see. As for Matrix, don't even bring it into this. It does not come close to Star Wars trilogy in terms of following and popularity, much less LOTR.
As for whether it's lost it's impact, I find that funny considering you and I just wasted 2 pages arguing about Star Wars. Seems to me it hasn't lost it's impact at all. Why do so many people all over the internet waste so much time talking about something that's lost it's impact? Beyond me. If the original SW trilogy outsells LOTR on DVD, then that totally blows your theory out of the water.
As for LOTR, last thing I want to get into is a LOTR vs. SW argument. I will say this. While we can debate the quality of the movies, there is no debate when it comes to impact. The LOTR films doesn't come close to having the kind of impact Star Wars had on the film industry, popular culture, and a generation of people.
In the end Nature Boy, your arguments about SW, especially the originals, is noted. But the evidence suggests you are clearly wrong.
While you guys argue about grammar and Lucas and the trilogy and the like just wanted to add: Hayden lookes darn good with that semi-mullet.
We sort of taken this thread way off argument haven't we.
The Nature Boy
09-21-03, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by Terrell
Says who, you? There is absolutely no evidence to that fact. People who talk about movies on message boards and chat rooms make up a significantly small percentage of movie fans. Extremely small. I'd bet more people prefer the original trilogy to the LOTR. But I have no proof of that, just as you have no proof that LOTR is preferred over the original SW trilogy by more people. I seriously doubt that, but we'll see. As for Matrix, don't even bring it into this. It does not come close to Star Wars trilogy in terms of following and popularity, much less LOTR.
As for whether it's lost it's impact, I find that funny considering you and I just wasted 2 pages arguing about Star Wars. Seems to me it hasn't lost it's impact at all. Why do so many people all over the internet waste so much time talking about something that's lost it's impact? Beyond me. If the original SW trilogy outsells LOTR on DVD, then that totally blows your theory out of the water.
As for LOTR, last thing I want to get into is a LOTR vs. SW argument. I will say this. While we can debate the quality of the movies, there is no debate when it comes to impact. The LOTR films doesn't come close to having the kind of impact Star Wars had on the film industry, popular culture, and a generation of people.
In the end Nature Boy, your arguments about SW, especially the originals, is noted. But the evidence suggests you are clearly wrong.
We sort of taken this thread way off argument haven't we.
My evidence is 100 percent annectdotal, through and through. But I do work as a substitute teacher, so I do have periodic contact with the 12-18 demo, and I can tell you, there is just no "buzz" on Star Wars. Buzz is not an empirically defined element, but just what you can observe when you open your eyes and listen with your ears. Don't misunderstand me, my point was the the PAIN I feel when kids today compare LOTR and the Matrix stuff to Star Wars. I just feel so saddened, and I guess I shouldn't, but I do. I think in my heart, it's because I want to share the joy I felt discovering Star Wars, and these kids have been given no reason to TRULY get behind Star Wars. Hell, there will ALWAYS been teenage fans of star wars, as will the be Trekkies and Deadheads. But the widespread fire wasn't there. Now should it matter so long as I enjoy it? No. But so much of the Star Wars fun was the community of the experience. And on top of it all, the movies themselves haven't sat well with me, but that's another argument for another day.
I mean, as for our debate, it's a small a sample as you can have. Two mid20somethings bantering over this. We're probably at the high end of the last truly devoted fans.
Look, I agree we're chasing out tails here, but for one last sample, go to your multiplex this fall, when the Matrix and LOTR come out. Check the lines for the film or duck your heads in a few theaters and check out how old the audiences are. And then do the same for Episode III, and then tell me about the impact and which films are speaking to which generations.
zero
09-21-03, 02:11 AM
My evidence is 100 percent annectdotal, through and through. But I do work as a substitute teacher, so I do have periodic contact with the 12-18 demo, and I can tell you, there is just no "buzz" on Star Wars. Buzz is not an empirically defined element, but just what you can observe when you open your eyes and listen with your ears. Don't misunderstand me, my point was the the PAIN I feel when kids today compare LOTR and the Matrix stuff to Star Wars. I just feel so saddened, and I guess I shouldn't, but I do.
...so would you say your childhood is being..dare I say....raped?
-rolleyes-
I mean, as for our debate, it's a small a sample as you can have. Two mid20somethings bantering over this. We're probably at the high end of the last truly devoted fans
Ok this is stupid..but please define for me "truly devoted fan" WTF does that mean?
Jackskeleton
09-21-03, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by The Nature Boy
My evidence is 100 percent annectdotal, through and through. But I do work as a substitute teacher, so I do have periodic contact with the 12-18 demo, and I can tell you, there is just no "buzz" on Star Wars. Buzz is not an empirically defined element, but just what you can observe when you open your eyes and listen with your ears. Don't misunderstand me, my point was the the PAIN I feel when kids today compare LOTR and the Matrix stuff to Star Wars. I just feel so saddened, and I guess I shouldn't, but I do. I think in my heart, it's because I want to share the joy I felt discovering Star Wars, and these kids have been given no reason to TRULY get behind Star Wars.
I'm sorry, but the hype with kids is a flow. they jump on the latest thing and the attention span is no longer then 2-3 months. if you base everything on 12-15 year olds you would invest heavily in Yu-gi-oh cards and jump on the latest crap. LOTR is a hot item right now. Wait till more episode III buzz comes out and you will see the kids flock to that.
Your study as a substitute is also meaningless because you spend what? a week at most with the same kids and then leave. your study is limited.
Matrix, LOTR, all these things are just a hype machine. Which series though is still selling figures like mad? star wars. I see LOTR figures ont he self all the time. Matrix toys aswell. Star wars is time tested and has staying power.
I'm sorry Mr. Sub, but your observations mean nothing more then what your opinion dictates the situation.
He doesn't look too happy there. And that scar is more visible in this pic.
zero
10-07-03, 01:57 PM
damn he looks pissed. I was reading posts about this picture on theforce.net but you have to bew some sort of insider member to see it, thanks for posting it! :)
PixyJunket
10-07-03, 02:41 PM
Stupid year and a half wait. :(
grunter
10-07-03, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by zero
damn he looks pissed.
Yeah, looks like someone got a wad of sand in his mangina.
;)
Giles
10-07-03, 03:33 PM
jeez, throw him a guitar and some spandex and he could become a member of the band The Darkness
He doesn't look too happy there. And that scar is more visible in this pic.
"Who ate all the F*#&$ Pringles!?!?!?!?!? Ben? Master Yoda?
Gawd dammit! I'm so angry I'm going to shave all my hair, put on a heavy black plastic outfit with a loud obnoxious ventilator, and use a voice box that makes me sound like a well spoken black man with a deep voice!!!!"
Dr. DVD
10-07-03, 05:14 PM
Let me chime in and say that for me to hold SW as dear as it once was to me, I have to look at it as OT and PT. While I do love LOTR and Matrix, SW:OT will always hold that special place because of its inspiration on me as a kid.
Right now, LOTR provides me with the story as an adult that the OT did as a kid. Will LOTR surpass the PT as greatness IMO? Already has. Will it surpass the SW story as a whole? Maybe. Will it ever surpass the OT? Nope.
In terms of the pic, why do they(whoever writes movies) always feel the need to illustrate someone is going bad by giving them long hair?
PixyJunket
10-07-03, 05:18 PM
Evil does not have time for a haircut.
Kicker_of_Elves
10-07-03, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Let me chime in and say that for me to hold SW as dear as it once was to me, I have to look at it as OT and PT. While I do love LOTR and Matrix, SW:OT will always hold that special place because of its inspiration on me as a kid.
Right now, LOTR provides me with the story as an adult that the OT did as a kid. Will LOTR surpass the PT as greatness IMO? Already has. Will it surpass the SW story as a whole? Maybe. Will it ever surpass the OT? Nope.
In terms of the pic, why do they(whoever writes movies) always feel the need to illustrate someone is going bad by giving them long hair?
:rolleyes:
Originally posted by PixyJunket
Evil does not have time for a haircut.
:lol:
Daytrip
10-07-03, 05:55 PM
that just show's that he's become a jedi night(lost the short hair and braid) OB1 grew his hair out he's not evil
DarthMaul420
10-08-03, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
not to mention the irony of folks hating how things are changed. take for example fett. he is dead. he died in a sarlac pit. end of story. I can't see why the fans felt it was alright and dandy to go back and eat it up when the comics claimed he was alive and survived the pit. it's not canon to the story, but hey, the fans wanted to change things around because they liked the character. But once the director wants to change the film around, in some aspects to please the fans.. bam! pretty much cursed at because his new vision didn't meet the fans vision. blah.
I have to disagree that he is dead, at least "onscreen". I don't hold EU to be canon at all so I do agree with your statements about the further tales of Fett being poodoo.
When Lucas killed Darth Maul off it was done in a way so that people wouldn't keep speculating if he was coming back, ala Boba Fett. I believe Lucas wrote Fett's death to be more mysterious so that people would talk about it. IMO, Fett's life and death in the OT is ingenious work from Lucas since he is only a background character.
Consider this. In the OT we knew nothing of his past. We didn't know anything about his apearance, race or even what he did with all his credits from being the most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy. Why did he wear tha armor? Hell, we didn't even find out then why he was the most feared BH in the galaxy! We also never found out how he finished his victims.(Disintegration? Never shown!) Vader even seemed to respect him for unknown reasons. In the same light we didn't even get a clear cut death scene for him. Lucas kept everything on Fett covered up so people could speculate. Lucas knew the character was popular after ESB(Stated before) and it did influence how he handled the "death" scene. From ROTJ and the official database.
"According to lore, the stomach pit of the Sarlacc keeps its prey alive for a thousand years, slowly dissolving its meal into needed nutrients, while the hapless victim is kept alive in searing, endless agony."
So for all we know Mr.Fett could still be down their suffering in the beasts stomach. No where in ROTJ did we see Boba Fett fall dead. Now most Fett fans use the arguement that he could have escaped the Sarlacc with his armor and his jetpack. No where in ROTJ is it shown that he did or didn't have the means to escape. Also from the official database.
"With a sickly belch from the desert creature, it seemed as if Fett's career as the galaxy's most notorious bounty hunter was brought to an end."
My opinion is that it didn't matter if he was able to escape the Sarlacc or not. For Lucas, the character was no longer needed in the story and it was a great way of getting him out of the way.
In terms of ATOC, perhaps Fett was put into the film for no other reason than to appeal to the fans. If not, Lucas saved Fett's story all these years to be told in the PT. Either way, it is important to remember Lucas has never allowed Boba Fett to take a position as a "major" character in any of the films.
* The funny thing about the whole Fett topic is that Lucas never admitted that the character had died in the pit until ATOC came out. Back in the 80s he didn't say anything about it at all. Could that be because throughout the 80s and early 90s he changed his mind daily regarding episodes 7,8,9? If he really thought the character should stay dead at the time why ok the further use of the character in the EU?
KenobiKid22
10-08-03, 10:30 PM
Here's something new from theforce.net regarding Palpatine. Kinda neat.I don't know if he's been using the Dark Side of the Force to cover it up or what - but the real Palpatine is getting some serious face time in Episode III. OK, I don't really know how much screen time Palpidious (funny name saw in the forums, sorry) is getting - but I do know they prepped him for a closeup.
There was an image from Episode III recently that showed the actor in costume getting ready to shoot a scene. It is intentionally misleading because that isn't what you'll really see him as in the film. Well, kind of - the side he shows the Jedi is still relatively tame, when we finally see the reveal it'll be a throwback to the ole' Return of the Jedi days.
In a makeup test, they had Ian McDiarmid looking just like the Emperor we know from the Classics, complete with yellow eyes and terrible crevaces of deep facial features. In one shot he's kind of gritting his teeth looking right at the camera. There are dark rings of red and brown under and around his eyes, and his lips are pursed and cracked. His face doesn't just look weathered, it looks plain evil. His black cloak is over his head in this first test shot.
In a second shot, his cloak is removed and you can see the top of his head. It is more of a casual shot with Ian almost smiling an evil grin to the camera. You can SO see him under the laytex, its some great work there. From this side shot you can see the intricate aging work in his neck and forehead, the man looks evil - a face only a mother could love. And even then, it might be difficult.
Why does Sidious look like this? He always did. Palpatine is his disguise/alternate persona he adopted to get himself into political power. He isn't able to maintain the disguise while using his powers and you'll see him flash to his Sidious look earlier in the film until he does the official "unveiling."
So would it be cool to see a first glimpse of this face as Palpatine feels the Dark Side flow through his body at a critical point in the film? Maybe there's been a confrontation, and Palpatine realizes this is the time to open up a can of something on a visiting Jedi.
Jackskeleton
10-09-03, 12:49 AM
From what I hear the simple answer to all that is that the Dark side can conceal more then the jedi's could sense
makes you wonder if there will be any conclusion to that whole Mediclorian(sp) gen crap from episode I.
Check out the lightsaber. It's the one Luke gets in ANH.
Kicker_of_Elves
12-05-03, 04:16 PM
Nice picture and thanks for posting it!
Kaffe_02
12-05-03, 04:49 PM
That glove looks really bad ass.
QuiGonJosh
12-05-03, 06:39 PM
holy shit thats awesome! 2005...hurry the hell up!
Terrell
12-05-03, 08:01 PM
makes you wonder if there will be any conclusion to that whole Mediclorian(sp) gen crap from episode I.
Nope! Nor did it explain the force. It only meant to serve that all people have them, only jedi have a higher concentration. It never took the mysticism out of the force, as some people complained. But no, there won't be any further delving into midichlorians.
QuiGonJosh
12-05-03, 10:10 PM
well said
caiman
12-05-03, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Kal Jedi
And here's another one. I personally think this one's awesome:
Check out the lightsaber. It's the one Luke gets in ANH.
Hayden Christensen = Elijah Wood? :hscratch:
Terrell
12-06-03, 12:20 AM
Hayden Christensen = Elijah Wood
Um, no! Not by a longshot. :)
Giantrobo
12-06-03, 03:14 AM
I got a Star Wars Fanboy buddy who's freaking out over how Anakin's saber is RED already. :lol:
"That means he's evil already!!" :lol:
outcastja
12-06-03, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by Giantrobo
I got a Star Wars Fanboy buddy who's freaking out over how Anakin's saber is RED already. :lol:
"That means he's evil already!!" :lol:
That was my initial reaction.
jekbrown
12-06-03, 03:52 AM
i have a theory... and its that the best star wars films are the ones where the bad guys are kickin azz. Therefore, ESB/EpIII will be the best 2 of the series. :hump:
j
Jackskeleton
12-06-03, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by Giantrobo
I got a Star Wars Fanboy buddy who's freaking out over how Anakin's saber is RED already. :lol:
"That means he's evil already!!" :lol:
but isn't that the point. can't go from good anakin in prequels to bad vader in OT.. this is the last shot to make him evil now. :p
Giantrobo
12-06-03, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
but isn't that the point. can't go from good anakin in prequels to bad vader in OT.. this is the last shot to make him evil now. :p
Yeah I know. It's just funny to see my Fanboy Buddy get excited over stuff like this. :lol:
I shit you not...whenever he sees cool Star Wars related stuff in a mag or online he gets this weird smirk on his face, bends over, and grabs his crouch like he's getting a boner :lol: :lol:
...he probably is :eek:
QuiGonJosh
12-06-03, 08:10 AM
I do that...
ChefWinduAZ
12-06-03, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by QuiGonJosh
I do that...
Same here......
Jackskeleton
12-06-03, 09:03 AM
don't we all?
huh?
12-06-03, 09:48 AM
i happen to enjoy the new triology a lot, and everything i've heard about episode 3 (pics, spoilers, etc) sounds excellent. i'm hoping i like the ending of the new triology better that the original one (not really a fan of jedi, my least favorite of the 5 released so far).
KenobiKid22
12-06-03, 12:32 PM
Nice pic, I haven't had an internet connection for the past month or so, does anyone remember anything about some ramblings in regards to Palps lightsaber. I swear I seen something on TheForce main page about it but I can't find anything about it now.
Hendrik
12-06-03, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by huh?
i happen to enjoy the new triology a lot, and everything i've heard about episode 3 (pics, spoilers, etc) sounds excellent. i'm hoping i like the ending of the new triology better that the original one (not really a fan of jedi, my least favorite of the 5 released so far).
...it's "trilogy" without the "o"...
(signed) Passing Pedant
. . . :o . . .
Kal-El
12-06-03, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by KenobiKid22
Nice pic, I haven't had an internet connection for the past month or so, does anyone remember anything about some ramblings in regards to Palps lightsaber. I swear I seen something on TheForce main page about it but I can't find anything about it now.
There was a pic of the hilt being designed. I believe that's what you're talking about. The site that has all the Before the Helmet and Hyperspace pics archived is down right now, so I can't show it to you.
KenobiKid22
12-06-03, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Kal Jedi
There was a pic of the hilt being designed. I believe that's what you're talking about. The site that has all the Before the Helmet and Hyperspace pics archived is down right now, so I can't show it to you.
Yeah that's it, yeah I would love to see it if it becomes available to you.
KenobiKid22
12-14-03, 01:05 PM
Anyone have the pics of Padme from starwars.com?
QuiGonJosh
12-14-03, 03:43 PM
i wanna see i wanna see!
Kal-El
12-14-03, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by QuiGonJosh
i wanna see i wanna see!
You got twenty bucks?
Jackskeleton
12-14-03, 07:08 PM
either that or the right place to download it from..
:o
I must say, seeing anakin take on that jedi made me excited again. perhaps this trilogy will go in reverse order in suckage. being the first one bad the second one better and the third the best. :)
Kal-El
01-23-04, 12:25 AM
Um, you guys, if you head on to this thread (http://www.nightly.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/70/1135.html) at nightly.net, they have AWESOME pics of THE DUEL and some Mace/Ani action as well. Hurry cuz the host'll probably be shut down by Lucasfilm soon...
zero
01-23-04, 02:06 AM
dude...*trying to hide how excited he is*...uhhh. THANK YOU!!!!!! :D
Artman
01-23-04, 02:19 AM
Thanks man!! That makes up for the OT DVD news.
If you happen to get ahold of that video, "quietly" post it here:)
Kal-El
01-23-04, 02:28 AM
Hehe. I dunno about the video. We're still trying to wrangle it from whoever who has it. What I did though, was make animated gifs of those stills from the Duel. Soooo much better to view them that way. Wish I could post 'em, but don't wanna get in trouble...
tanman
01-23-04, 02:39 AM
Frodo?!
QuiGonJosh
01-23-04, 08:19 AM
Must stay Spoiler Free...Spoiler Free...
Kicker_of_Elves
01-23-04, 08:31 AM
Holy Shit
Iron Chef
01-23-04, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by kicker_of_elves
Holy Shit
Kicker_of_Elves
01-23-04, 10:17 AM
the video kicked all ass!
:D
Kal-El
01-23-04, 10:38 AM
Won't be up for long... (http://www.night.clara.net/euroconf60104.avi)
Meatpants
01-23-04, 11:13 AM
:drool:
DarthVong
01-23-04, 11:23 AM
Nice!
Death to the JEDI!!!
Still have over a year to wait though...sigh.
Kal-El
01-23-04, 11:58 AM
I just finished watching the video and...:jawdrop: is all I can do. That duel is going to be a relentless, no-holds-barred, fight to the death between Kenobi and Anakin. Nice touch with having Ewan narrating it considering he's one of the more vocal crticits among the cast.
QuiGonJosh
01-23-04, 01:32 PM
damn it the videos already gone...
raven56706
01-23-04, 01:41 PM
damn.... that was quick.... can someone send it via email....
QuiGonJosh
01-23-04, 01:46 PM
PM please...
Kal-El
01-23-04, 01:51 PM
Doubt it, it's about 34MB. I have screen caps of the best parts though and some gifs I made all zipped up. Around 1MB. In one of them, if you look closely enough is Hayden in the Darth Vader suit.
None of them work again. Grrrrr. Oh well. If anyone hears of another mirror be sure to let us know. I'm really wanting to see this.
MasterofDVD
01-26-04, 09:20 PM
None of them work again. Grrrrr. Oh well. If anyone hears of another mirror be sure to let us know. I'm really wanting to see this.
Teremei
01-27-04, 04:22 AM
http://www.zen33799.zen.co.uk/kmc/e3low.mov
It's very low quality. But download it while it's still there. Atleast you will beable to see it. While hopefully waiting for higher quality, if possible.
GuessWho
01-27-04, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Kal Jedi
That duel is going to be a relentless, no-holds-barred, fight to the death between Kenobi and Anakin. A "fight to the death"... where neither dies? :-p
Looks like Clone meets Jordi from Star Trek. Does anyone have a working high quality link to the leak?
Rogue588
01-27-04, 10:57 PM
I was thinking more of a Cylon...
Is there a red light that goes from side to side..?
GuessWho
01-27-04, 11:01 PM
From below-the-visor downward, it seems old-school stormtrooperish (which is the point) :up:
Jackskeleton
01-27-04, 11:36 PM
Well someone does die in the battle, as obi says in ANH.. that was the day Anakin was no longer anakin and was then on darth vader. :p
Fok
01-28-04, 12:02 AM
Hopefully this will be the movie where Lucas redeems himself. I'm actually looking forward to Jar Jar dying (I'm assuming he dies?)
zero
01-28-04, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Fok
Hopefully this will be the movie where Lucas redeems himself. I'm actually looking forward to Jar Jar dying (I'm assuming he dies?)
I think your asking for too much (as in Jar Jar dying) and as far as Lucas redeeming himself, I dont see how he has to prove anything. He owes nothing to anyone and its a tired subject when someone says that Lucas "owes" anything. Dont like the prequels dont see them its as simple as that.
talemyn
01-28-04, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by zero
I think your asking for too much (as in Jar Jar dying) . . .Ooooooh . . . but think of it . . . how evil would "little Ani" be if he killed Jar-Jar on his way to becoming Darth Vadar? :eek:
GuessWho
01-28-04, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Well someone does die in the battle, as obi says in ANH.. that was the day Anakin was no longer anakin and was then on darth vader. :p that depends "from a certain point of view" ;)
Jackskeleton
01-28-04, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by talemyn
Ooooooh . . . but think of it . . . how evil would "little Ani" be if he killed Jar-Jar on his way to becoming Darth Vadar? :eek:
they want you to grow to hate anakin... uh, I mean vader. Not Love him.
zero
01-28-04, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by GuessWho
that depends "from a certain point of view" ;)
A certain point of view? :p
Dr. DVD
01-29-04, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by zero
A certain point of view? :p
You will find a great deal of the many truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view.
zero
01-29-04, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
You will find a great deal of the many truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view.
rotfl Thank You, I was beginning to think no one else would finish that :lol:
jekbrown
01-30-04, 05:28 AM
Originally posted by Jackskeleton
they want you to grow to hate anakin... uh, I mean vader. Not Love him.
pffffft, i always rooted for the empire. Vader rocks, Luke is a pansy. :D
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