I hope this hasnt been posted already, search didnt come up with anything but Universal just posted the covers for the two Carpenter films for October...
Bummer. I expected a better cover for Prince of Darkness.
Alice Cooper (Who's face is on the cover) is only in 2 or 3 scenes of the movie.
I'll get the dvd anyway. I've always thought of PRINCE as an effective,well-made horror flick. Opening scene still gives me chills.
Class316
07-31-03, 02:44 PM
damn! They still seem barebones. Thank God for R2 discs.
RobCA
07-31-03, 03:12 PM
I sold my They Live on eBay a while back, and I've been missing it ever since.
Can't wait to replace it!
Rob
gutwrencher
07-31-03, 03:19 PM
I have the OOP discs....but I still am thinking about getting those R2 dvds.
Adrenaline
07-31-03, 03:25 PM
Is it just me or did that cover of They Live hardly change?
colossus
07-31-03, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by Adrenaline
Is it just me or did that cover of They Live hardly change?
Not much at all. My OOP copy here has "They Live" in the bottom of the cover in a different font; the pic is the same.
Class316
07-31-03, 06:04 PM
Hmm....apparently in R2 versions, during the opening credits the aspect ratio is 2.40:1 then After that, it changes to approx. 2.10:1 (ie it is slightly cropped). Awwww crap!! :mad:
look at the specs for the r2 disc Audio commentary with director/writer/composer John Carpenter and actor Roddy Piper
Film presentation by John Carpenter
Theatrical trailer
Photo gallery
Cast & crew filmographies and biographies
"Making of" -featurette (7:52)
"Music of the film" -featurette (0:52)
"A quiet man" -documentary (with interviews) (42:08)
DVD-ROM: Web access
-Exclusive 80-page booklet written by Helene Frappat (from “Cahiers du Cinéma”)
French Subtitles
2.10:1 anamorphic PAL
English Dolby Digital 5.1
English Dolby Digital 2.0 surround
French Dolby Digital 5.1
French Dolby Digital 2.0 mono
Amaray CaseAnd what do we get...? Nada.
If the cropping is the only issue, 'll take it, thank you very much..[that is, if there aren't French subtitles that you can't bypass...]
Is anyone out of gum yet...?
Class316
07-31-03, 06:50 PM
afaik the French version has no forced subs.
So I guess it boils down to extras vs OAR
LivingINClip
07-31-03, 07:11 PM
I will just buy the R2 versions from XploitedCinema.com . Better box art and more features...Probably for the same price.
mikewendt
07-31-03, 07:29 PM
Damnit! I have to get a Region Free player. This is bulls*it!
Class316
07-31-03, 07:56 PM
Whoa!! People who hate cropped images preferring extras over OAR?? Now that is strange :hscratch:
eddiekirk
07-31-03, 08:15 PM
That is strange. I prefer OAR and the best a/v quality(the R1 pics do looks better). If it's barebones, that's fine. Extras are secondary.
DonnachaOne
07-31-03, 08:20 PM
I was going to get the r2...
... but now, no.
OAR all the way, baby. I'll see if a friend can tape the commentary for me.
Sunday Morning
07-31-03, 08:41 PM
best solution:
buy the region 2 dvd.
buy a malata dvd player.
use the XY scaling feature on the malata dvd player to adjust the film to the correct aspect ratio.
I use mine and it looks great.
Julie Walker
07-31-03, 09:07 PM
Well glad they used the original poster for They Live. Just hate the new font,but i can live with it. just sold my Image release for $36 on ebay. Now hopefully the bidder pays up. If not,i'll keep it. If so,i will then get the new version for about the same price i purchased the Image release in 200o for $9,hehe.
I really hate that Prince of Darkness cover though. The original artwork(on the Image release,which sadly i missed) is excellent. Still i will finally be able to see the film in it's OAR..& for a cheap price. So it's a win win situation i think. Have'nt seen this film in years though. Remember it being fairly scary. We'll see if it still holds up. I've always loved the opening credit sequence. Music,the editing really enhancing the atmosphere & creepy in the extreme.
Class316
07-31-03, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Sunday Morning
best solution:
buy the region 2 dvd.
buy a malata dvd player.
use the XY scaling feature on the malata dvd player to adjust the film to the correct aspect ratio.
I use mine and it looks great.
Huh?? But it’s cropped!!
evenswr
07-31-03, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Class316
Huh?? But it’s cropped!!
That's what I was thinking. Is it cropped, or isn't it cropped? If it's cropped, no amount of adjustment from your DVD player will add back in the picture that's cropped.
That's the problem I have with the term "Original Aspect Ratio." No, you want the "Original Picture." If all you really wanted was the correct aspect ratio, then just the center of the image, 12 pixels by 5 pixels, would be good enough.
dtsmovieguy
07-31-03, 10:22 PM
So the R2 is PAL right? I got a region free player that does the conversion to NTSC, but have no R2 dvd's try. This would be my first R2 dvd... Is it available now?
feagfilms
07-31-03, 10:46 PM
my R2 UK changes into 2.35:1 - not 2.10:1
so it's not cropped from OAR
Class316
07-31-03, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by feagfilms
my R2 UK changes into 2.35:1 - not 2.10:1
so it's not cropped from OAR
how does it "change" to 2.35:1 ?
Adrenaline
07-31-03, 11:24 PM
sounds like I will be getting the new release from these cropping issues.
Class316
08-01-03, 12:21 AM
I guess best thing is to have a “2-disc”. R1 for the OAR and R2 for the commentary. This really sucks! It’s also a similar situation for Zulu.
RichDB10
08-01-03, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by eddiekirk
That is strange. I prefer OAR and the best a/v quality(the R1 pics do looks better). If it's barebones, that's fine. Extras are secondary.
Yes..couldn't agree more, i'll pick these two releases up as part of the 'John Carpenter: Horror Collection' boxset..i even traded in my copy of 'The Thing' in anticipation for this...incidentally i realise it's not to everyones tastes but i don't think the 'new' cover art is too bad for 'Prince Of Darkness'.
I hate Universal. Though arent the movies owned by a differnet company in differnet regions? So maybe they own the rights to the extras too? Anyone know?
I think the covers are cool though. Even PoD.
Where can I find a multi region player though? How much are they and do they have the same capabilities as USA players?
Class316
08-01-03, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Ravenous
Where can I find a multi region player though? How much are they and do they have the same capabilities as USA players?
There are lots of good players. Try making a search in the international section.
IMO a good DVD-Rom drive is a great region free players.
1)Plays all formats without any headaches, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, SVCD, etc!!
2)Region Free (some are region free by default, some need firmware patches)
3)On your computer, PAL/NTSC issues don’t exist
4)No RCE issues
The only drawback is you gotta connect the computer to a TV.
Adrenaline
08-01-03, 12:13 PM
Connecting your computer to your tv is pretty easy if you have a GF4/5, Radeon 9X00 because they have S-Video Out on most of them. If you have an HDTV with a DVI input, just use your DVI output from your video card straight to your HDTV.
I currently have a 27" Sony (not HDTV) connected via an S-Video connector, dvds and games look great.
Class316
08-01-03, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Adrenaline
Connecting your computer to your tv is pretty easy if you have a GF4/5, Radeon 9X00 because they have S-Video Out on most of them. If you have an HDTV with a DVI input, just use your DVI output from your video card straight to your HDTV.
I currently have a 27" Sony (not HDTV) connected via an S-Video connector, dvds and games look great.
Yea you gotta have the TV and PC in the same place, and for some people that’s an inconvenience.
Adrenaline
08-01-03, 12:44 PM
my bedroom has my computers and home theater :)
gutwrencher
08-01-03, 04:16 PM
well...I feel better. just ordered both imports and will still get the new editions. now I'll have 3 dvds of each....and no...I wont be selling any either. dont want to part with the OOp's. off now to get my POD poster framed.:thumbsup:
Class316
08-01-03, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by gutwrencher
well...I feel better. just ordered both imports and will still get the new editions. now I'll have 3 dvds of each....and no...I wont be selling any either. dont want to part with the OOp's. off now to get my POD poster framed.:thumbsup:
Sell the OOP's on ebay to make some $$$$ before they get released again.
DonnachaOne
08-01-03, 04:38 PM
Two things just occcured to me -
the r2 might have just a lot of overscan.
Also - perhaps this is the preferred ratio for home video. (other examples are Apocalypse Now's, The Recruit's and Austin Powers's modified aspect ratios).
RichDB10
08-01-03, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Class316
Sell the OOP's on ebay to make some $$$$ before they get released again.
I think it's safe to assume judging by many past posts by gutwrencher that he is first and foremost a film buff and also a serious collector...so i very much doubt he's 'in it for the money'
Rammsteinfan
08-01-03, 07:56 PM
Just sold my They Live for $50.50!!! Cant wait to get it again for sub $20.
Deckard-10
08-01-03, 11:54 PM
What the heck is the deal with the new cover of Prince of Darkness?   :whofart:
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