Why does the lawn sound better?
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Why does the lawn sound better?
Hey everyone,
Does anyone know why lawn seats sound better than even being the first couple rows of the pavillion. I saw Lolapalozaa a week ago. Sat 10 rows back. It was loud as all get-up and since I knew the words I was set. During Rooney's set, I walked up to the lawn. While on the lawn I noticed that the sound was much better than the pavillion. Yes, it wasn't as loud but it was MUCH clearer. I also noticed this at Dave Matthews Band last year. First night I had lawn and second night I had back of the pavillion. Back of the pavillion was of course louder but not clearer.
How is this possible? Anybody know? Thanks a lot.
Does anyone know why lawn seats sound better than even being the first couple rows of the pavillion. I saw Lolapalozaa a week ago. Sat 10 rows back. It was loud as all get-up and since I knew the words I was set. During Rooney's set, I walked up to the lawn. While on the lawn I noticed that the sound was much better than the pavillion. Yes, it wasn't as loud but it was MUCH clearer. I also noticed this at Dave Matthews Band last year. First night I had lawn and second night I had back of the pavillion. Back of the pavillion was of course louder but not clearer.
How is this possible? Anybody know? Thanks a lot.
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I don't know much about the fizz-icks of sound, but I image it's because the noise has more room to disperse and separate the farther you are from the overdriven pavilion loudspeakers.
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Originally posted by evenflowddt
It doesn't sound better. It's just your ego messing with you. Lawn "must" sound better or else you're a loser for not getting better seats.
It doesn't sound better. It's just your ego messing with you. Lawn "must" sound better or else you're a loser for not getting better seats.
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Two main reasons why the lawn may sound better:
If you are close to the stage, you're could actually hearing a lot of the sounds coming directly off the stage amps (guitars, etc) and the stage monitors (for the band to hear themselves). So you're not hearing a proper "mix", you're hearing too much of some instruments and probably not enough of the vocals.
The other reason is that sound bounces around off hard, reflective surfaces. So those concrete floors, wood/plastic seats, and metal ceiling all send echoes everywhere, making things less clear in a lot of venues. These are not issues on the lawn.
BTW, technology is getting better at both of these problems. In-ear monitors (IEM) make stage volumes a lot lower than they used to be, making it easier to get an even mix in the house.
And line array speakers (you've probably seen them, they're a single vertical stack of speakers hung on either side of the stage) allow sound to be dispersed in a much tighter pattern, so there's less reflection off surfaces you don't want to hit.
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If you are close to the stage, you're could actually hearing a lot of the sounds coming directly off the stage amps (guitars, etc) and the stage monitors (for the band to hear themselves). So you're not hearing a proper "mix", you're hearing too much of some instruments and probably not enough of the vocals.
The other reason is that sound bounces around off hard, reflective surfaces. So those concrete floors, wood/plastic seats, and metal ceiling all send echoes everywhere, making things less clear in a lot of venues. These are not issues on the lawn.
BTW, technology is getting better at both of these problems. In-ear monitors (IEM) make stage volumes a lot lower than they used to be, making it easier to get an even mix in the house.
And line array speakers (you've probably seen them, they're a single vertical stack of speakers hung on either side of the stage) allow sound to be dispersed in a much tighter pattern, so there's less reflection off surfaces you don't want to hit.
Alan
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Nope, you're all wrong. It's because the tickets are cheaper, therefore you can spend more money on drinks. You're drunk, chilling, and it sounds better.
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Originally posted by [email protected]
Two main reasons why the lawn may sound better:
If you are close to the stage, you're could actually hearing a lot of the sounds coming directly off the stage amps (guitars, etc) and the stage monitors (for the band to hear themselves). So you're not hearing a proper "mix", you're hearing too much of some instruments and probably not enough of the vocals.
The other reason is that sound bounces around off hard, reflective surfaces. So those concrete floors, wood/plastic seats, and metal ceiling all send echoes everywhere, making things less clear in a lot of venues. These are not issues on the lawn.
BTW, technology is getting better at both of these problems. In-ear monitors (IEM) make stage volumes a lot lower than they used to be, making it easier to get an even mix in the house.
And line array speakers (you've probably seen them, they're a single vertical stack of speakers hung on either side of the stage) allow sound to be dispersed in a much tighter pattern, so there's less reflection off surfaces you don't want to hit.
Alan
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Two main reasons why the lawn may sound better:
If you are close to the stage, you're could actually hearing a lot of the sounds coming directly off the stage amps (guitars, etc) and the stage monitors (for the band to hear themselves). So you're not hearing a proper "mix", you're hearing too much of some instruments and probably not enough of the vocals.
The other reason is that sound bounces around off hard, reflective surfaces. So those concrete floors, wood/plastic seats, and metal ceiling all send echoes everywhere, making things less clear in a lot of venues. These are not issues on the lawn.
BTW, technology is getting better at both of these problems. In-ear monitors (IEM) make stage volumes a lot lower than they used to be, making it easier to get an even mix in the house.
And line array speakers (you've probably seen them, they're a single vertical stack of speakers hung on either side of the stage) allow sound to be dispersed in a much tighter pattern, so there's less reflection off surfaces you don't want to hit.
Alan
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Originally posted by evenflowddt
It doesn't sound better. It's just your ego messing with you. Lawn "must" sound better or else you're a loser for not getting better seats.
It doesn't sound better. It's just your ego messing with you. Lawn "must" sound better or else you're a loser for not getting better seats.
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Try getting some foam earplugs, as well. They filter out most of the noise you get from an unproper mix (eg - being close to the stage) and don't hinder the sound of the music at all.
When I first clicked on this, I thought it might be a Joni Mitchell thread. (Hissing of Summer Lawns for the uninformed)
When I first clicked on this, I thought it might be a Joni Mitchell thread. (Hissing of Summer Lawns for the uninformed)