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Old 07-18-03, 04:22 PM
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T3 References To Previous Terminator Movies

I caught a few, maybe I am just imagining but here is what I saw:

1.) Arnold checks John Conner in car similar to way Sarah Conner checks out John after Pescadero escape in T2 (for injuries)

2.) Kate Brewster and John Conner bond over making explosives, much the same way Sarah Conner and Kyle Reese do. (T1)

3.) Arnold's Hulk Smash when he disobeys the "corrupt" programming is similar to Sarah's smash of the table when she decides not to smash the CPU (Seen only in T2 Special Edition)
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Doesn't he look for keys in the visor of the car?
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"She'll be back."
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Originally posted by palebluedot
Doesn't he look for keys in the visor of the car?
Yes. I think it was when he got into the truck at the strip club.
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Arnold tells the firefighters to "get out" of their truck. That's my favorite Terminator line.
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When naked Arnold enters the female bar in T3, several women smile and check his body over, just as the waitresses did in the biker bar in T2.
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There is the part where he is in the the cemetery and firing the mini-gun and then cuts to his POV with text saying no casualties.
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I was totally waiting for Arnold to say to anyone, "Come with me if you want to live." It totally would have worked in several places in the first half of the film. Meh.
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Yes, I noticed the POV "casualties" - one thing of interest in T2 - they had human casualties with 00.0 with a decimal point, this time they had it 000 (no decimal point) - just a little joke. I liked the .0 part of T2 better.
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TX, says something like "I like your car. "

In T2 the T-1000 says "Say that's a nice bike"
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Originally posted by Corvin
I was totally waiting for Arnold to say to anyone, "Come with me if you want to live." It totally would have worked in several places in the first half of the film. Meh.
IIRC, John Connor says something very close to that line to Claire Danes to get her to go with him and Arnold.

One thing I was thinking about while watching T3 was that I don't get why they keep sending back the T-100 model of the Terminator to protect John Conner from the newer T1000 and Terminatrix terminators. Why not send at T1000 in T2 to protect him, or a Terminatrix in T3? There wouldn't be Arnold in it, but it just doesn't make sense to me.

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Originally posted by jiggawhat
There is the part where he is in the the cemetery and firing the mini-gun and then cuts to his POV with text saying no casualties.
If I remember correctly, it wasnt a mini-gun. I think it was a 50. caliber that is usually mounted on military hummers.

http://www.btinternet.com/%7Emanny_19/t3big/t800.jpg

Edit: Actually, there is a chain gun in T3 but it's a whole different story when compared to the chain gun in T2.

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1. The movie was called 'Terminator'

2. Arnold was in it.

3. There was a character named John Connor who was in both movies.

4. John was protected by a Terminator who was much weaker than the Terminator trying to terminate John in both movies.

5. Terminator wears the exact same clothing in every movie despite having the ability to wear anything it wants.
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Originally posted by Nosebleed
One thing I was thinking about while watching T3 was that I don't get why they keep sending back the T-100 model of the Terminator to protect John Conner from the newer T1000 and Terminatrix terminators. Why not send at T1000 in T2 to protect him, or a Terminatrix in T3? There wouldn't be Arnold in it, but it just doesn't make sense to me.
How hard do you think it would be to capture and reprogram a T-1000, exactly?
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Terminator wears the exact same clothing in every movie despite having the ability to wear anything it wants.
Well this is a joke, but its not simply true. The first terminator Arnold was wearing punk clothes (who he got by killing Bill Paxton), in the second one, he picked up the biker outfit.
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Here is a small snapshot of Arnold's clothing in the Terminator

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Originally posted by Nosebleed
One thing I was thinking about while watching T3 was that I don't get why they keep sending back the T-100 model of the Terminator to protect John Conner from the newer T1000 and Terminatrix terminators. Why not send at T1000 in T2 to protect him, or a Terminatrix in T3? There wouldn't be Arnold in it, but it just doesn't make sense to me.
In T-2, Arnie mentions that the T-1000 is an advanced prototype - so we can assume that there is only one of him. Furthermore, we never see any model other than the model 101 in battlefields in the future war scenes.
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Actually in T1 we see a different model Terminator invade the base in one of Kyle Reese's flashbacks.

Remember, the model # referes to the look the Terminator has when it's infiltrating. For example, model 101 is the type that looks like Arnold. When they have no felsh atop and are simply and endoskeleton it a T-#. In otherwords, all the Terminators we see as ground troops in the future war sequences are T-800's. The T-800 Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 is the Terminator we've seen Arnold portray in all three movies.

I don't know how Mostowe and company could have goofed and had the T-800 refer to himself as a T-101 when he should have said "Cyberdyne Systems Model 101" like Arnie said in T2. If we're to believe that Arnie is a so-called T-101 he wouldn't even have human tissue since he'dbe older than the T-600's that used rubber skin when they would go on infiltration missions.
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In all three we get to see the Terminator's endo-skeleton behind his flesh.

You see his robot arm and half his robot face in all of them.

And of course, someone will always "be back!"
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Originally posted by Corvin
I was totally waiting for Arnold to say to anyone, "Come with me if you want to live." It totally would have worked in several places in the first half of the film. Meh.
I totally expected that at the animal hospital.
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For the few of us in the theater who actually recognized the voice before we saw the face, this was a very funny inside joke!
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Originally posted by RocShemp
Actually in T1 we see a different model Terminator invade the base in one of Kyle Reese's flashbacks.

Remember, the model # referes to the look the Terminator has when it's infiltrating. For example, model 101 is the type that looks like Arnold. When they have no felsh atop and are simply and endoskeleton it a T-#. In otherwords, all the Terminators we see as ground troops in the future war sequences are T-800's. The T-800 Cyberdyne Systems Model 101 is the Terminator we've seen Arnold portray in all three movies.

I don't know how Mostowe and company could have goofed and had the T-800 refer to himself as a T-101 when he should have said "Cyberdyne Systems Model 101" like Arnie said in T2. If we're to believe that Arnie is a so-called T-101 he wouldn't even have human tissue since he'dbe older than the T-600's that used rubber skin when they would go on infiltration missions.
Has it ever been said, either in a novel or whatever, what model shoots up the Resistance base in T1? Since it got really deep undercover on looks alone I'm asssuming it's a T-800 (not 600).
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Originally posted by sho kosugi
Has it ever been said, either in a novel or whatever, what model shoots up the Resistance base in T1? Since it got really deep undercover on looks alone I'm asssuming it's a T-800 (not 600).
If memory serves, the Terminator that invaded the base in Kyle's flashback was of the T-800 series (the scene was to show how easily those could get into human bases as opposed to the infiltration models of the T-600 series). My point was not that it was not the same series Terminator as the "Arnold" Terminators but rather that it was a different model. My point was that the series number referes to the endoskeleton (or lack thereof in the case of the T-1000) and the model number refers to the flesh covering they have during infiltrations. For example, al T-800 series Terminators that look like Arnold are designated Cyberdyne Systems Model 101. The T-800 that invaded the base in Kyle's flashback was a different model because it did not look like Arnold.

And calling the Arnold Terminators T-101 is incorrect because it means he'd be older than the T-600 series and those did not have living tissue available to them for infiltrations. The T-600 series only had rubber flesh available to them and it seems unreasonable that a much older series Terminator would be fitted with infiltration technology that is much more advanced than that of a later (and at its time state-of-the-art) series Terminator.

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While watching Terminator 3 I was reminded of the first two during . . . every single frame of the movie!

Really, I was surprised at how much the third is just a pastiche of the first two. But I give it credit for doing it so enthusiastically.


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