Hard Boiled region 0 NTSC newly remastered anamorphic and dts!
06-25-03, 03:01 PM
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Hard Boiled region 0 NTSC newly remastered anamorphic and dts!
http://hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.528553/qx/details.htm
Its out now, and I just picked up a copy for 15.99. If you've been looking for the fox lober or criterion dvd's, skip them and get this. I'd guess they would look like total ***** compared to this version
Its out now, and I just picked up a copy for 15.99. If you've been looking for the fox lober or criterion dvd's, skip them and get this. I'd guess they would look like total ***** compared to this version
06-25-03, 03:20 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble but that version is probably the worst one out. Here is a review of all three versions.
"The Mei Ah version of HARD BOILED has little going for it. The big down side of this DVD is that you need to flip it over. If that is not bad enough, you have to watch the copyright warning and go through the menu again to continue. I know I had to flip over the laser disc but I didn't have to sit through the warning and menu again.
The picture quality is barely fair. The overall image is very bright and washed out looking. The picture also jumps occasionally. This can be distracting after a while. It's hard to tell from the screen shots, but there is sometimes a haze over the picture. The print that was used was
definitely not in the best shape."
http://www.loveandbullets.com/hardboiled.htm
"The Mei Ah version of HARD BOILED has little going for it. The big down side of this DVD is that you need to flip it over. If that is not bad enough, you have to watch the copyright warning and go through the menu again to continue. I know I had to flip over the laser disc but I didn't have to sit through the warning and menu again.
The picture quality is barely fair. The overall image is very bright and washed out looking. The picture also jumps occasionally. This can be distracting after a while. It's hard to tell from the screen shots, but there is sometimes a haze over the picture. The print that was used was
definitely not in the best shape."
http://www.loveandbullets.com/hardboiled.htm
06-25-03, 05:02 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble but that version is probably the worst one out. Here is a review of all three versions.
Sorry to burst your bubble but that version is probably the worst one out. Here is a review of all three versions.
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06-25-03, 06:54 PM
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Re: Hard Boiled region 0 NTSC newly remastered anamorphic and dts!
Originally posted by Rypro 525
http://hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.528553/qx/details.htm
Its out now, and I just picked up a copy for 15.99.
http://hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.528553/qx/details.htm
Its out now, and I just picked up a copy for 15.99.
DDDHouse has it for $10.26
Hivizone has it for $12 minus a 15% discount = $10.43
06-25-03, 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by Heliosphann
Hmm, already have the Criterion and FL... Maybe I'll add a 3rd copy if it turns out to have a good transfer and DTS track.
Hmm, already have the Criterion and FL... Maybe I'll add a 3rd copy if it turns out to have a good transfer and DTS track.
06-26-03, 11:11 AM
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I wont be getting a third copy of HB or the Killer. FL and CC are plenty for me. Maybe next format... if Criterion gets the rights back and releases a super deluxe restored version. Till then, these 4 dvds are plenty to get a Woo fix.
06-26-03, 11:19 AM
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Didn't Mei Ah screw up the soundtrack on their last release, using music from other movies?
I don't have a lot of confidence that this will be much better.
I don't have a lot of confidence that this will be much better.
06-26-03, 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by Josh Z
Didn't Mei Ah screw up the soundtrack on their last release, using music from other movies?
I don't have a lot of confidence that this will be much better.
Didn't Mei Ah screw up the soundtrack on their last release, using music from other movies?
I don't have a lot of confidence that this will be much better.
06-26-03, 04:27 PM
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that was also done by MediaAsia for their initial release of A Better Tomorrow; it was quickly replaced by the "Original Sountrack" version. both are OOP.
Originally posted by theneobez
Too bad no Woo commentary from the Fox Lorber release, maybe if this transfer is good enough I'll purchase.
Too bad no Woo commentary from the Fox Lorber release, maybe if this transfer is good enough I'll purchase.
06-26-03, 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by FreshOne
I wont be getting a third copy of HB or the Killer. FL and CC are plenty for me. Maybe next format... if Criterion gets the rights back and releases a super deluxe restored version. Till then, these 4 dvds are plenty to get a Woo fix.
I wont be getting a third copy of HB or the Killer. FL and CC are plenty for me. Maybe next format... if Criterion gets the rights back and releases a super deluxe restored version. Till then, these 4 dvds are plenty to get a Woo fix.
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Oh, and by the way; lookie what i found:
I found it here: http://www.bulletsnbabesdvds.com/mod...02&start=40&55
I went to Lai Ying (Chinese video store) here in Manhattan yesterday and bought the new Mei Ah Hard Boiled remastered DVD. I did not watch the whole movie last night but only skipped through various parts to see how the DVD looked. I compared it to the other version that I have the Criterion collection DVD and the short answer is: The new Mei Ah kicks the Criterion’s butt when it comes to image quality.
First, I must say that this is a DVD remaster and not a film restoration so the film element still has scratches and dirt that is visible in some scene. Also Mei Ah still haven’t figured out how to cleanly compress their movies as there are still some compression artifacts that are visible in certain scene. But overall the image on the Mei Ah is smooth and naturally sharp unlike the Criterion which is marred by edge enhancement and halos. The colors on the Mei Ah are vibrant and crisp not like the Criterion that is dark and muddy.
I did not checked for subtitles accuracy nor did I have time to evaluate the sound. I will leave that to you guys. All in all I am happy with the new DVD and I have already asked them to order the new remaster of Swordsman 2 and 3 for me.
I have taken several screen captures from both DVD. The pictures can be seen here Let me know what you guys think.
http://www.geocities.com/dtaveras00/first.html
http://www.geocities.com/dtaveras00/second.html
http://www.geocities.com/dtaveras00/third.html
http://www.geocities.com/dtaveras00/fourth.html
First, I must say that this is a DVD remaster and not a film restoration so the film element still has scratches and dirt that is visible in some scene. Also Mei Ah still haven’t figured out how to cleanly compress their movies as there are still some compression artifacts that are visible in certain scene. But overall the image on the Mei Ah is smooth and naturally sharp unlike the Criterion which is marred by edge enhancement and halos. The colors on the Mei Ah are vibrant and crisp not like the Criterion that is dark and muddy.
I did not checked for subtitles accuracy nor did I have time to evaluate the sound. I will leave that to you guys. All in all I am happy with the new DVD and I have already asked them to order the new remaster of Swordsman 2 and 3 for me.
I have taken several screen captures from both DVD. The pictures can be seen here Let me know what you guys think.
http://www.geocities.com/dtaveras00/first.html
http://www.geocities.com/dtaveras00/second.html
http://www.geocities.com/dtaveras00/third.html
http://www.geocities.com/dtaveras00/fourth.html
06-27-03, 12:30 AM
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SWEET! The remaster looks a lot better than the Criterion!
I wonder how that DTS track is like? I hope they actually tried to do a new mix with new high-quality sound effects.
I wonder how that DTS track is like? I hope they actually tried to do a new mix with new high-quality sound effects.
06-27-03, 09:18 AM
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I hope they actually tried to do a new mix with new high-quality sound effects.
I hope they actually tried to do a new mix with new high-quality sound effects.
06-27-03, 03:40 PM
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more from his review
Hopefully, I will get mine soon to see how good/bad this color corecting thing is. I sold my fox lober release, so I can't compare subtitles. Plus this is def. the movie, where you just want the main action sequences.
The resturaunt
the warehouse
and lastly
a 30 min hospital scene.
Ok guys I continued checking out the DVD tonight. the subtitles are definitely different than the ones on the Criterion disk. Which one is more accurate? I don't know because I don't speak Chinese.
The remix soundtrack as is usually the case with HK remixes is gimmicky and exaggerated but it is not as bad as the old remixes that Universe used to do. For those of you who don't like remixes, the original mono Cantonese soundtrack is included as well.
Tonight I noticed something that bothers me about the image on this disk. They did not color match all the sequences. What I mean is, that a few sequences that were put together from different prints elements were not color matched to each other but this is me being extra picky. This is typical of all HK DVDs of older films. Even Hong Kong Legends who restores their film elements have been guilty of this in some of their releases. Anyway this is just a pet peeve of mine. The same way some people get really annoyed about inaccurate subtitle, I get annoyed about colors not matching in a sequence So your MMV.
Dennis
The remix soundtrack as is usually the case with HK remixes is gimmicky and exaggerated but it is not as bad as the old remixes that Universe used to do. For those of you who don't like remixes, the original mono Cantonese soundtrack is included as well.
Tonight I noticed something that bothers me about the image on this disk. They did not color match all the sequences. What I mean is, that a few sequences that were put together from different prints elements were not color matched to each other but this is me being extra picky. This is typical of all HK DVDs of older films. Even Hong Kong Legends who restores their film elements have been guilty of this in some of their releases. Anyway this is just a pet peeve of mine. The same way some people get really annoyed about inaccurate subtitle, I get annoyed about colors not matching in a sequence So your MMV.
Dennis
The resturaunt
the warehouse
and lastly
a 30 min hospital scene.
06-28-03, 01:54 PM
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http://www.geocities.com/dtaveras00/third.html
Just noticed that on the first comparison that the meh ah is cropped differently than the criterion.
Just noticed that on the first comparison that the meh ah is cropped differently than the criterion.