News Flash: Fox to Release DVD 6 weeks after Movie Release of "Justin and Kelly"

[chanster]

From Wednesday's Wall Street Journal


Theater owners are expressing consternation about a plan by News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox Film Corp. to sell the DVD of its coming release, "From Justin to Kelly," just six weeks after the movie bows in theaters.

Fox's plan is increasing fears among theater operators that the exclusive window they have to show movies is shrinking as the DVD market becomes more important to the profitability of a movie. Typically, the DVD for a movie goes on sale about five months after the movie appears in theaters. But the window, which once averages six months, has been gradually shortening.....

But Fox movie-distribution executives have been telling theater operators in recent weeks that the studio plans to release the DVD in early August, causing some major theater chains around the country to balk at booking the movie in theaters.....

Theater operators object to Fox's plan on "From Justin to Kelly" because it could make themselves vulnerable to comply with similar terms from other studios on movies in the future. They are worried the precedent could embolden the studios to adopt the strategy one day on a big "franchise" movie.

[Rogue588]

:lol:

You mean they didn't go with their original plan of handing them out as that one guy that went to see it left the theatre..?

Shame..

Continuing on that track..

Perhaps this is the excuse that theatre owners are using to "balk at booking the movie"...?

Wait...one more...

I guess Fox figured that the one weekend [and i'm being generous here] that this dreck will be in theatres wasn't enough and they still wanted it to be a "summer" movie...?

Ok. Ok. Lemme stop.

I will say one thing...i'm hoping Kelly does the usual cross-promotional FHM/Stuff/Maxim magazines [which'll probably sell more than the DVD...:lol:]

...that girl got a nice backside..

[Rypro 525]

Good, this might be a good excuse for me not to see this in theaters. My girl friend is a big american idol fan but I'm just a cassual watcher, and have been dreading this movie.

[Jackskeleton]

In before R_S...

anyhow. This sounds like fox's best bet. They do realize that if they waited the six months to release it on dvd like any normal film that the interest would be dead since there is no new American Idol to hype it up with. This will also show that the fad is something that fox wants to cash in on as soon as possible.

Anyhow. this is scary for the theaters as they make the majority of their profit from the films later weeks take in and if fox is eating that up with dvd sells.. this could be a bad sign for theater chains.

[Rogue588]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Anyhow. this is scary for the theaters as they make the majority of their profit from the films later weeks take in and if fox is eating that up with dvd sells.. this could be a bad sign for theater chains. I think the industry's been heading this way for some time now...most movies open BIG then drop BIG the following week or two. Pretty soon the films are going to be in theatres for only one month the way things are going..

It's sad. I remember back in 81 when Raiders came out..our local newspaper had a big ass blurb "Number One Movie For 18 Weeks!" I don't think it's amazing that it was number one, just that it played for 18 weeks.

Then again, there was less output from Hollywood back then..so I guess i'm just waxing nostalgic..

ps...what's "R_S..."?

[Groucho]

Originally posted by Rogue588
You mean they didn't go with their original plan of handing them out as that one guy that went to see it left the theatre..?Actually, that one guy (mcbg1) has already seen the film.

[das Monkey]

In before the "STFU."

On topic, while the theatrical window has been narrowing, I imagine this is more indicative of the marketing strategy <I>American Idol</I> related products have had than anything else.

das

[Kal-El]

R_S=Rocky Stallone if I'm not mistaken.

:thumbsup: to the promotional tie-ins.

[fumanstan]

Good idea for this kind of movie for Fox. I definatly agree with keeping up the fad as long as it can. Personally, i think the movie is going to end up a mild success. I know i won't see it, but i saw a clip of it and it didn't seem so bad. Looked like a modern day musical in the same vain of early hollywood musicals.

[Dr. DVD]

This is either a sign of things to come in the future with DVD, or is indicative that this movie is baaaadddd.

[Dr. DVD]

Originally posted by Rogue588
I will say one thing...i'm hoping Kelly does the usual cross-promotional FHM/Stuff/Maxim magazines [which'll probably sell more than the DVD...:lol:]

...that girl got a nice backside..

Pics? :D

[mcbg1]

This isn't true, the DVD release date has been pushed back for another 6 weeks, so 3 months after the theatrical release :

Fox rethinks 'Idol' film's vid window
In an effort to ensure that its theatrical run would be played in the
nation's largest theater chains, 20th Century Fox Studios has moved its
home video window of the "American Idol" movie "From Justin to Kelly" back
six weeks after numerous theatrical exhibitors balked at the original
video date, which was scheduled six weeks after the theatrical debut on
June 13.

Mr. Hollywood

[mcbg1]

By the way, Kelly is #27 on this year's Maxim Hot 100 women woohoo :)

[mcbg1]

And seriously those of you who have doubts about this movie, I can see why you would think that but don't worry, go see it with an open mind and you'll have a great time.

The choregraphy and the music are great and the acting/love plot is not bad.

I'm a big Kelly Clarkson fan but when I see a good movie, I know to give it props.

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by Rogue588
I think the industry's been heading this way for some time now...most movies open BIG then drop BIG the following week or two. Pretty soon the films are going to be in theatres for only one month the way things are going..

It's sad. I remember back in 81 when Raiders came out..our local newspaper had a big ass blurb "Number One Movie For 18 Weeks!" I don't think it's amazing that it was number one, just that it played for 18 weeks.

Then again, there was less output from Hollywood back then..so I guess i'm just waxing nostalgic..

ps...what's "R_S..."?

What's R_S?, the defender of Idol of course. :p anyhow. It might be the way the industry has been heading, but this will be a very bad move for the theaters who are already in trouble as I said, they make the majority of profit from the later weeks since the studio's get a greater % of the films take the first few weeks. Lets see how this plays out.

[Pants]

You are so right Jack. Nothing would please the studios more than if they could release a movie in theaters for only 3 weeks (when exhibitors get less than 10% of the box office) then put the DVD out on the 4th week, killing the period when the exhibitor's take increases, and then put a new movie in theaters.

[mcbg1]

Here's a very interesting article on the dvd rental window situation and on the J2K movie :

http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=filmNews&storyID=2832505

[ChefWinduAZ]

For a movie that starts in two weeks I haven't seen a commercial for it yet. I think FOX has no faith in this film at all and that is why they initially wanted to hurry up and release it on DVD so they could capitalize on the American Idol hoopla. But the theater owners got pissed off and they changed the date. If I was a theater owner I would only play this on one screen anyway so I don't see why they are flipping out. It's not like this was going to be the big blockbuster summer movie of the year. I am surprised FOX didn't pull a Disney and just release it straight to video. They would probably make more money that way.

[mcbg1]

Fox has faith in this movie. The test screenings went extremely well and they are promoting it a lot. You just hate everything AI related and you keep making negative judgments about it even though you know nothing about the facts.
I've seen previews for it on MTV, Fox, WB, and a lot of other major networks.

WWE Jedi : You have no idea of what you're talking about so shut the hell up.

[Pants]

I'm no hater, but this film will bomb hard. Not "Real Cancun" hard, but hard nontheless.

[mcbg1]

Wait and see :)

[das Monkey]

Heavy on the "wait" ... light on the "see" ;)

das

[Rogue588]

Originally posted by mcbg1
Fox has faith in this movie. The test screenings went extremely well and they are promoting it a lot. You just hate everything AI related and you keep making negative judgments about it even though you know nothing about the facts.
I've seen previews for it on MTV, Fox, WB, and a lot of other major networks.

WWE Jedi : You have no idea of what you're talking about so shut the hell up. Dude, relax. There's no need to take things relating to Kelly/AI so personally. Like WWE Jedi, i've yet to see a commercial for this thing too [and I watch all the channels you mentioned..]. Now, I don't know what goes through FOX execs heads [nor do I think i'd want to..], but he prefaced his statement with "I think" rather than insisting that it was fact..

Or in the immortal words of Warren Oates..."Lighten up, Francis.."

[mcbg1]

Well sorry if I take it so personally but this gal worked her butt off to make this movie worthwhile and good.

I know people think it's cheesy and it kinda is but in good way. It's a great fun movie and if people have an open mind when they walk in the theater, they will have a great time.

Like I said previously, the acting is good and the music and choregraphy is great. It's not gonna bomb that's for sure because unlike you I've seen the trailer at least 10 times in the last week and the right audience is targeted ( teens )

Fox has great faith in it since the test screenings went so well. It's one of the reasons the movie was pushed from April to June.

People are entitled to their opinions but they gotta stop to have pre-conceived ideas about the movie and just see it and then say what they thought of it.

If they don't like it I'm ok with it, at least they will have made the effort to see it.

[NitroJMS]

I have yet to see a single trailer or tv spot either. None are even on the official site. The sole promotion I've seen in person was a poster at my local Loews Theater.

No reviews are available yet either which isn't too good a sign if critics aren't being shown this film at this point. Normally there's at least a few press screenings at least 2 weeks before a release.

[mcbg1]

It's very rare that press screenings happen 2 weeks before a movie's release date

As a matter of fact though, the premiere is taking place right now in Burleson Texas ( Kelly's Hometown ) so expect a few reviews to appear online in the next few days.

The official site ( www.fromjustintokelly.com ) lets you listen to music from the movie and three clips from the movie are shown so that's good promotion.

I've seen the trailer during the AI2 finale, the AI episode the week before and also during 7th heaven's Finale last week. I've also seen it a couple of times this week during TRL. It's been aired on a couple of other networks also.

[briank]

the only promotion I've seen on it was during AI on Fox and a little bit on MTV.

I don't think Fox has much faith in it. I think they know what to expect hence the early dvd release.

[mcbg1]

well I think you don't know anyone inside Fox and 19 Entertainment so you're opinion is wrong.

They have faith in this movie and they will stick by it.

[ChefWinduAZ]

Originally posted by mcbg1
WWE Jedi : You have no idea of what you're talking about so shut the hell up.

I think you need to back off and calm down. You are to obsessed with this thing for your own good. I am a big Star Wars fan but I don't go off on every person who says it sucks and trust me there are a lot of people on this board who think Star Wars sucks. This is a person you don't know. She's not your wife, not your girlfriend, not even your friend. She is a person who won a contest on television. You have to stop taking it so personally. There are people who do not have faith in this film and you have to accept that. Check out the message boards on imdb.com if you want proof.

[Rogue588]

Star Wars does suck.

:p

[well, Attack Of the Clones did...]

[briank]

Originally posted by mcbg1
well I think you don't know anyone inside Fox and 19 Entertainment so you're opinion is wrong.

They have faith in this movie and they will stick by it.

:lol: "OPINION is wrong"

it's an OPINION! And I'm basing it on their dvd release plans.
If they expected it to do real well in the theater they wouldn't try to push it to video so quickly.
Because if it was a "good time" movie people would watch it not only in the theater but they would get it on video too.
If it was coming out so quickly after it's release to video, they would just wait (or atleast A LOT WOULD).
And Fox might be thinking they'd be able to sell to the AI crowd on video, but if they saw it, they wouldn't bother buying it (...maybe not having faith in it).
I'm just brainstorming.

I think when they started production on the movie they had high hopes.
I think now they are coming down to "real world" terms on it.
So they might not be "dissapointed" because now they know more what to expect.

[mcbg1]

Originally posted by WWE Jedi
I think you need to back off and calm down. You are to obsessed with this thing for your own good. I am a big Star Wars fan but I don't go off on every person who says it sucks and trust me there are a lot of people on this board who think Star Wars sucks. This is a person you don't know. She's not your wife, not your girlfriend, not even your friend. She is a person who won a contest on television. You have to stop taking it so personally. There are people who do not have faith in this film and you have to accept that. Check out the message boards on imdb.com if you want proof.

I don't know Kelly but I do know very well someone very close to her and that's why I take it very personally when she's insulted.

I don't care if some people don't have faith in it, I'm saying I know that Fox and 19 Entertainment have faith in it and will stick by it.

I'm telling you to back off and calm down, I will say what I believe is right and no one will stop me. I know what I'm talking about since I've seen the final product.

So unless you've seen the movie, all of you need to calm down and stop bashing it.

[das Monkey]

The dichotomy of certain opinions being presented as definitive facts in the same breath as overwhelmingly abrasive attempts to silence any other opinion is so laughably entertaining, I can't keep from returning to this thread.

The "wait until you see it" mantra rings boy-who-cried-wolf hollow, since we've already been through this with the album. It was all "wait until you hear it," people listened to it, and upon offering up their opinions, the thread for the album was deleted, and we were all told how stupid we were for having a dissenting opinion.

Repeatedly telling people to STFU in the same breath as demanding they act "mature" makes it difficult for anyone to take seriously all these claims of how nice and sweet Kelly is. I used to consider her a nice girl with a great voice who could see some real success once she broke free from the initial pop sound <I>American Idol</I> inherently breeds. After being told which of my opinions have no value, when I'm allowed to speak and when I should STFU, I don't want to have anything to do with any of it.

It's amazing how short a time it's taken to go from wishing her well to hoping for colossal failure. One guess what the catalyst for that was ...

das

[Rogue588]

Two things...Originally posted by mcbg1
I don't know Kelly but I do know very well someone very close to her and that's why I take it very personally when she's insulted.I would hold this as a valid reason for your reactions, but you got your panties in a bunch over Mariah too. What would be the reason for that..?Originally posted by mcbg1
I don't care if some people don't have faith in it, I'm saying I know that Fox and 19 Entertainment have faith in it and will stick by it.

I'm telling you to back off and calm down, I will say what I believe is right and no one will stop me.So, basically, if someone on here believes the opposite of what you believe, it's okay for you to throw out a random "shut the hell up"...:hscratch:

I'm confused..

[Rogue588]

Originally posted by das Monkey
The dichotomy of certain opinions being presented as definitive facts in the same breath as overwhelmingly abrasive attempts to silence any other opinion is so laughably entertaining, I can't keep from returning to this thread.

The "wait until you see it" mantra rings boy-who-cried-wolf hollow, since we've already been through this with the album. It was all "wait until you hear it," people listened to it, and upon offering up their opinions, the thread for the album was deleted, and we were all told how stupid we were for having a dissenting opinion.

Repeatedly telling people to STFU in the same breath as demanding they act "mature" makes it difficult for anyone to take seriously all these claims of how nice and sweet Kelly is. I used to consider her a nice girl with a great voice who could see some real success once she broke free from the initial pop sound <I>American Idol</I> inherently breeds. After being told which of my opinions have no value, when I'm allowed to speak and when I should STFU, I don't want to have anything to do with any of it.

It's amazing how short a time it's taken to go from wishing her well to hoping for colossal failure. One guess what the catalyst for that was ...

das :lol:

so does this mean I can have your copy of her CD..? ;)

nah...i'll just take the booklet..

[ChefWinduAZ]

Originally posted by briank
it's an OPINION! And I'm basing it on their dvd release plans.
If they expected it to do real well in the theater they wouldn't try to push it to video so quickly.
Because if it was a "good time" movie people would watch it not only in the theater but they would get it on video too.
If it was coming out so quickly after it's release to video, they would just wait (or atleast A LOT WOULD).
And Fox might be thinking they'd be able to sell to the AI crowd on video, but if they saw it, they wouldn't bother buying it (...maybe not having faith in it).
I'm just brainstorming.

I think when they started production on the movie they had high hopes.
I think now they are coming down to "real world" terms on it.
So they might not be "dissapointed" because now they know more what to expect.

This is exactly what I was thinking. If they had made the announcement to release the movie early on DVD after the film had been released and was a huge success, like what MGM did with Barbershop, then I wouldn't be so quick to think there was something wrong with the film. But they made this initial announcement two weeks before the film was to be released in theaters. What else are we supposed to think?

[mcbg1]

You guys are not worth arguing with. I know what I'm talking about and yes you are entitled to your opinions but they way you are acting is extremely unacceptable.

I won't bother to reply to your comments anymore, rejoice :)

[ChefWinduAZ]

Originally posted by mcbg1
I'm telling you to back off and calm down, I will say what I believe is right and no one will stop me. I know what I'm talking about since I've seen the final product.

So unless you've seen the movie, all of you need to calm down and stop bashing it.

And why have you seen the movie? Do you work for FOX? Because you are a bad endorsement for this film.

[clemente]

Wow....someone needs some pills.

Oh, I'm sorry, that's just my opinion, its must be wrong.


We're not teenager (most of us), we're not the target audience, we aren't going to go watch, some of us (me included) will openly mock those who do go see it, so no matter how great you say it is (and your impartiallity is highly suspect) we don't care!!

If you're offended when people talk bad about your future stalking victim you should really unplug from the computer and get some fresh air.

But that's my opinion, feel free to tell me to go frell myself.

[Phuzbox]

This thread is like staring at the sun. You know its bad for you, but you just can't stop. :)

[evenflow]

Ok I have seen this movie and I think it sucks more than Freddie Got Fingered!!!

[mcbg1]

ok so if I talk positively about Kelly it must mean I'm a stalker lol

I guess the fact that you guys keep making negative comments means that you'll stalk her to kill her I guess....

Anyway this conversation went off-rail. Everybody lost their temper including me and I apologize for that.

I'm a fan of her, you guys aren't, let's all agree on that.

You can keep posting about what a failure the movie will etc, I won't reply to that since my opinion isn't respected here.

I will stop talking about Kelly here as long as people stop making reference to me on other threads about the subject.

Let's move on like mature and responsible adults.

[evenflow]

Originally posted by mcbg1
my opinion isn't respected here.


Captain Obvious to the Rescue!

[briank]

and if 100% of the people actually pays to see the film just so they can bash it, then we would just get pointed out to us, "well look how good it did and how much money it made!".

The promos for it are NOT GOOD. It looks BAD BAD BAD.
And I like teen romance comedy musicals.
This though is NOT appealing, it just looks like they are trying to cash in a little piece of the bandwagon pie.

[mcbg1]

briank : If people see it and then bash it, I'm ok with that.

Now let's please stop bashing me guys please and let's move on to serious discussions. I will stop talking about Kelly therefor stop making reference to my previous comments and stop insulting me.

Otherwise I will ask a moderator to get involved in this.

[das Monkey]

-ohbfrank-

Making threats is about the most frowned-upon thing you can do here. If you feel DVD Talk's policies have been violated, the "Report a post to a moderator" button is on every post. Report it and be done with it. Word to the wise, though ... you may want to go back and edit all the personal attacks and STFUs you've thrown around the past few days before doing so. This culture of antagonistic posting is hardly one-sided, and I believe all the Victim Cards have already been played from this deck. If you don't want to be put in the position of defending such statements, you may consider not telling everyone their opinions are worthless and to shut up. "Shut up" is about the last thing anyone at DVD Talk understands.

Back on topic (or not) ...

Silly Sir <B>Rogue</B> ... I only have scans ... but you're welcome to my "copy." ;)

das

[BigDaddy]

That is funny when you tell people to SFU and then talk about getting a moderator involved.

Pot

Kettle

Black

[mytzplyx]

Ok, since we're on this topic, let's throw out opening weekend gross predictions.


I say 2 million from Friday to Sunday. Any other guesses?

[das Monkey]

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth mytzplyx •<HR SIZE=1>Ok, since we're on this topic, let's throw out opening weekend gross predictions.

I say 2 million from Friday to Sunday. Any other guesses? <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

What else is being released at the same time ... I'm too tired to go searching. ;)

das

[William Fuld]

Hollywood Homicide, Dumb and Dumberer, Rugrats Go Wild

[das Monkey]

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth William Fuld •<HR SIZE=1>Hollywood Homicide, Dumb and Dumberer, Rugrats Go Wild <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not much direct competition, but if <B>Dumb and Dumberer</B> comes in at PG-13 like its predecessor, it should eat up some of it. Considering the lack of direct competition and the fact that it's tailored specifically for the summer season, I'll say it grosses $7,000.00 during opening weekend.

das

Yes, that's a period.

[BigDaddy]

Theater Owners Balk at 'Idol' Flick


Some theater owners are balking at screening the upcoming 20th Century Fox movie From Justin to Kelly after learning that Fox plans to release it on DVD just six weeks after it runs in theaters, the Wall Street Journal reported today (Wednesday). The movie, scheduled for release on June 13, stars Kelly Clarkson and Justin Guarini, the winner and runner-up respectively in the first season of American Idol. According to the newspaper, theater owners are concerned that studios may decide to use a similar strategy with other films in order to boost DVD sales. Noting that the average "window" from theatrical release to DVD release is about five months, the Journal indicated that theater owners are worried that if moviegoers become aware that the DVD will be released in only a short time, they will skip the in-theater experience. Fox execs, however, said that the quickly produced movie was an attempt to exploit the popularity of the series while it is still fresh in the minds of audiences -- as is the quick release of the DVD.

[MrX]

Originally posted by das Monkey
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth William Fuld •<HR SIZE=1>Hollywood Homicide, Dumb and Dumberer, Rugrats Go Wild <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not much direct competition, but if <B>Dumb and Dumberer</B> comes in at PG-13 like its predecessor, it should eat up some of it. Considering the lack of direct competition and the fact that it's tailored specifically for the summer season, I'll say it grosses $7,000.00 during opening weekend.

das
I don't know, Hollywood Homicide could take a huge chunk of the teen audience. Teenage girls, like my sister, are going to go to a Josh Hartnett movie over the AI movie.

This thread has been hilarious. The mcbg1 posts are the only reason I check out these threads.

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by mcbg1
well I think you don't know anyone inside Fox and 19 Entertainment so you're opinion is wrong.

They have faith in this movie and they will stick by it.


Actually I know someone inside of fox. ;) I worked there off and on through those connections on various projects here and there. From what I hear, they really don't want to flesh it out and want to do a quick hit and run squeezing as much as they can before the fad fades away. :)

[jfoobar]

This movie would be a lot better if it had Scott Baio in it.

[matome]

:lol:

[LBPound]

Originally posted by JustinS
This movie would be a lot better if it had Scott Baio in it.

And it would be infinitely better if it had Scott Baio AND Willie Aames in it.

[Hokeyboy]

And it would be infinitely better if it had Scott Baio AND Willie Aames in it.
Are you thinking along the lines of Zapped: 20 Years Later or Charles In Charge Again?

Or Bibleman Meets Chachi?

[Pants]

mcbg1-

If you're so tight with Kelly would you please carry this message to her:

Tell her that I think she sucks hard, her fame is bogus, her music sucks, that she's a corporate concoction with zero talent, and that American Idol is the worst show on television...EVER.

And if you're so sure this film film will be a hit why don't you put your money where your mouth is? If the American Idol movie is #1 on it's opening weekend I'll buy you the DVD when it comes out (3 weeks later). And if it's not #1 you buy me the DVD of my choice (under $25).

[ChefWinduAZ]

Originally posted by Matt Millheiser
Are you thinking along the lines of ......Bibleman Meets Chachi?


That's GOLD!!! Box Office records would shatter with that one. I say we write to whomever and get it greenlighted. :D

[fumanstan]

Originally posted by Pants
mcbg1-

If you're so tight with Kelly would you please carry this message to her:

Tell her that I think she sucks hard, her fame is bogus, her music sucks, that she's a corporate concoction with zero talent, and that American Idol is the worst show on television...EVER.

And if you're so sure this film film will be a hit why don't you put your money where your mouth is? If the American Idol movie is #1 on it's opening weekend I'll buy you the DVD when it comes out (3 weeks later). And if it's not #1 you buy me the DVD of my choice (under $25).

:(

[mcbg1]

Pants how many times will I have to tell you that your mother doesn't want you to go on a computer past your bedtime :)

Seriously what you said is horrible but I don't care if that's what makes you feel better, good for you hehe.

[Groucho]

This just in from the wire: Mariah Carey will appear in the film doing a cameo as herself, in which she will literally poop on her fans! Says Carey of the appearance: "Well, it's been something I've done figuratively for years, I figure I might as well commit myself to it completely." Kelly Clarkson is also excited about the cameo, saying "We all know that Mariah is a great singer, dancer, and actress. Now we get to finally get to see where her true talent lies." Added Clarkson: "OMG!"

[mcbg1]

Cool beans :)

[Pants]

Originally posted by mcbg1
Pants how many times will I have to tell you that your mother doesn't want you to go on a computer past your bedtime :)

Seriously what you said is horrible but I don't care if that's what makes you feel better, good for you hehe. Bedtime? It's 9:30 in the morning.

[mcbg1]

You should be at school darling then hurry up :)

[Pants]

So is the bet on?

[mcbg1]

No because I have maturity and dignity.

I never said the movie would be #1, I just said it wouldn't be a flop. So the bet is off

[mcbg1]

And if the movie is a flop I won't be mad. I will respect your prediction.

I will still enjoy the movie though.

[Pants]

But if you're so sure of the films success this is your chance to score a free dvd.

We can redesign the terms of the wager. Let's make it where it has to reach a fixed dollar amount in domestic grosses by the 3rd week of release or something.

[Pants]

Originally posted by mcbg1
I will still enjoy the movie though. How can you be so sure? When we prejudge the film to be awful based on TV commercials you tell us we're ass holes. But when you prejudge it to be good that's okay? I don't get it.

[jfoobar]

Originally posted by mcbg1
Pants how many times will I have to tell you that your mother doesn't want you to go on a computer past your bedtime.

Originally posted by mcbg1
No because I have maturity and dignity.


Okie doke.

[Jackskeleton]

mcbg1, Usually when people put there foot in there mouth like you have been doing about this AI crap, they like to settle it in an adult manner. A bet like this (1 dvd for 1 dvd) seems fair, and you do complain that people are not acting mature in these threads yet you resort to stupid comments to pants about how it's past his bedtime..-rolleyes- Usually in the sports forum they wager on each other's sig.

I don't know about everyone else, But it would be pretty entertaining to pick your signiture if by chance you lose the bet. either way, Respond to everyone else with some level of respect if you expect to get any back.

[mcbg1]

I know I enjoyed the movie because I've been to a test screening of it in New York last month.

I'm not gonna give money to someone else because the movie could flop. I'm positive it'll be a moderate success but if it isn't, that's too bad but I'm not gonna pay someone for it lol.

[mcbg1]

and as of today, i've replied to everybody with respect unless they've been disrespectful before.

[Pants]

Then I repeat: From the first pageOriginally posted by Pants
I'm no hater, but this film will bomb hard. Not "Real Cancun" hard, but hard nontheless.

Edit: Damn I hate it when it goes to the next page!

[mcbg1]

ok well you're entitled to your opinion Pants, I respect it and I didn't mean to offend you so let's move on on good terms please.

We'll just see how well ( or how bad hehe ) it does.

[Jackskeleton]

The guy told you to put your money where your mouth is.. he didn't say "Your moma wears combat boots". Your reply to him about being past his bedtime was pretty childish not to mention lacking the funny. You do realize that there is a lot of folks who do not care about AI. and with this news BEFORE the film is released, not to mention the press release were it states that fox is trying to cash in on it all as fast as they can before it fads away.

I already told you my source inside fox comfirming this. Put it this way.. fox doesn't think this has legs. hell, they are going about it in a way to squeeze as much as possible before it the fad goes away.

[mcbg1]

Jackskelteton : Well if your source is as good as mine then I wonder who was given the wrong info....

Anyway let's end the discussion here and see the results for ourselves.

If someone keeps making comments about what I said after this message, then they will be the immature ones...

[Pants]

Originally posted by mcbg1
If someone keeps making comments about what I said after this message, then they will be the immature ones... I do not fear your wrath (oh no, I posted! I'm dead)

[evenflow]

Originally posted by mcbg1
Jackskelteton : Well if your source is as good as mine then I wonder who was given the wrong info....


What's your source anyway? Jack's source is from Fox I believe, what's yours? Just because Kelly is friend with your boyfriend and she tells him stuff? That's your source?

OMG! I just replied to your comments. I'm immature :(

[mcbg1]

Not only that but other people inside Fox and 19 Entertainment.

That's all I'm gonna say now...

[Pants]

Do you know why it's called 19 Entertainment?

Because that's the cutt-off age for people who enjoy that crap.

Oh man having this much fun should be illeagle.

[das Monkey]

I'm so mature that I'm not going to post on this topic anymore.

das

[das Monkey]

Oh, just one more thing ...

das

[mcbg1]

Pants I told you that we should keep being mature and not make personal attacks !

Stop your attitude now please

You seem like you're under 19 yourself by the way you're acting....

[evenflow]

Originally posted by das Monkey
I'm so mature that I'm not going to post on this topic anymore.

das

Well, chief, you just posted! You're immature!!!!! :lol: rotfl :lol:
Haha!

;)

[evenflow]

Originally posted by mcbg1
Pants I told you that we should keep being mature and not make personal attacks !



How can YOU "keep being mature" when you weren't mature in the first place? ;)

SHUT THE HELL UP! (mgbg1)

[mcbg1]

Some of you seriously need anger management classes :)

[Rogue588]

:hscratch:

I think this thread just took a left turn into lock down territory..

So wait...if a mod makes one last post informing us he's locking it down and why, does that make him immature also?

[mcbg1]

Nope

I strongly suggest a moderator to close this thread as fast as possible.

[Hokeyboy]

Is anybody here into monkeys?

[das Monkey]

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth evenflowddt •<HR SIZE=1>Well, chief, you just posted! You're immature!!!!! :lol: rotfl :lol:
Haha!

;) <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wrong!

Maturity (n):
(1) Telling everyone to STFU in the same breath as accusing them of being immature.
(2) Claiming a post is the last post on a certain topic, then returning 5 minutes later to continue arguing.
(2b) Later claiming <I>another</I> post is the last post on a certain topic, and once again returning later to continue arguing.
(3) Deleting a thread because everyone does not share your opinion
(3b) Requesting a moderator close it for the same reason
(4) OMG Kelly

Dude, I can do that ... piece of cake. This maturity thing is a snap.

das

[Kal-El]

Is it too late to join the fun in here?
I think I too, can be "mature" about this.

[Pants]

Originally posted by Rogue588
:hscratch:
So wait...if a mod makes one last post informing us he's locking it down and why, does that make him immature also? Positively!

[briank]

:lol:

I'll have to go back and count how many times the claim was made that "I'm done posting on this topic now"
just to follow up with a post within minutes.

[Rogue588]

there is just SO much great sig material here that it would be hard to choose just one..

So Pants, you wanna bet on which mod will be the one that locks this down..?

BUT...he has to have seen FJ2K...

AND LIKED IT! ;)

[fumanstan]

I think everyone needs a spanking.

[Dr_Evil]

this is the best OMG kelly thread ever. I won't offer criticism of the movie until I see it, but I'll offer some thoughts:

1) I haven't seen any ads for this aside from whats on AI
2) I can't imagine that this movie will come close to doing well.


OMG! ;)

[Hokeyboy]

GREATEST... THREAD... EVER!

[William Fuld]

I don't know which is funnier, this from imdb.com's trivia: "During filming on the beach in Miami, Florida, Kelly Clarkson would simply lie down in the sand and take a nap, rather than walking over to her chair, in the shade."

...or the fact that the writer, Kim Fuller, wrote Spice World, and the director, Robert Iscove, choreographed "Steve and Eydie Celebrate Irving Berlin". The mind reels.

[BigDaddy]

Originally posted by Pants
mcbg1-

If you're so tight with Kelly would you please carry this message to her:

Tell her that I think she sucks hard, her fame is bogus, her music sucks, that she's a corporate concoction with zero talent, and that American Idol is the worst show on television...EVER.

And if you're so sure this film film will be a hit why don't you put your money where your mouth is? If the American Idol movie is #1 on it's opening weekend I'll buy you the DVD when it comes out (3 weeks later). And if it's not #1 you buy me the DVD of my choice (under $25).


rotfl rotfl rotfl

[Blake]

This thread is about Fox's plans to release the DVD 6 weeks (or maybe 3 months) after the theatrical release of J&K. This thread is not about discussing the merits of the film. mcbg1, this especially means you - it's obvious you liked the film, but you do not need to tell those who don't think it will be good to "shut up" - I don't know...I would have figured out a while ago that the "general" community isn't looking forward to this film and I would have stayed out of threads discussing them, knowing that people would be bashing the film. Further attacks on members, the general DVDTalk community, or anyone else will not be tolerated and will result in a suspension.

Back on track now...

(any further off topic comments will be considered immature ;))

[Jackskeleton]

Ok.. back on track.. This is not a good sign for theaters since they make the majority of thier money from films from the later weeks since the studios take a large % of the first few weeks of release.. What will be the outcome. I think that many theaters will choose to not have this play or have it in one small theater or as few screens as possible just so that they can recover the loss quicker.

[ChefWinduAZ]

That is exactly what I am thinking. My local theater has 30 screens and in the main lobby are the four largest screens. And those four screens are usually reserved for the biggest releases of the week. Like when X2 was released it was on 3 of the 4 and Lizzie Maguire was one the other big screen. But when The Matrix Reloaded came out it was on all four of the large screens. Now with this "flm", FJtK, I see it being in one of the smallest screens far away from the front lobby.

[Pants]

20th Changes It's Mind
From IMDb:Twentieth Century Fox has bowed to protests by theater owners and has delayed the video release of From Justin to Kelly, which originally had been set to hit rental and retail outlets only six weeks after its theatrical release. After some of the country's largest exhibitors threatened to refuse bookings of the film on the grounds that many moviegoers would simply wait six weeks for the video to appear, 20th Century Fox decided to postpone the DVD release until September.

[Pants]

way to go mcbg1! It looks like your protest worked

[Jackskeleton]

And for a second there I thought the real cancun had some threat at becoming the fastest film to video...

[Rogue588]

To be honest, when a flick comes out that I really want to see, I usually do my damndest to see it opening weekend [or opening day]. If it takes me more than a week or two to see it, it usually falls off my radar..so 6 weeks to DVD wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing..

For ME, that is..*

* [I went back and added the "that is..." cuz I know how immature you people are and I know that a "to POOP on" reply was assured...you people make me sick :)]

[mcbg1]

The movie will come out on DVD after 3 months, not 6 weeks....

[MartyMcSuperfly]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
And for a second there I thought the real cancun had some threat at becoming the fastest film to video...

I thought Pluto Nash held that honor.

[Phuzbox]

I need to get this thread bronzed and mounted on my wall.

[DRG]

It's not like this movie will have legs (be playing for a long period of time) anyway... especially in the summer. With the big opening weekend being the focus nowadays, studios will try to cram each new summer release into as many screens as possible. Almost every theater is contracted to show a movie for two weeks in the very least (which is why a mega flop like Pluto Nash was still playing in the same number of theaters in week 2 as week 1 - 2320) But after that most movies start dropping screens week after week. With so much competition for screens it's doubtful this movie will be playing on more than 100 screens after six weeks, even IF it's a minor hit. I think it'll open somewhere between "Crossroads" and that N Sync bomb "On the Line"... which is admittedly a pretty wide margin.

On a side note, while the movie itself might be a decent idea, that title blows hard. "From Justin to Kelly"?!? Did they think the Idol fans wouldn't figure out they were in the movie otherwise? What's next... "Terminator 3: Rise of the Schwarzenegger"?

[angryyoungman]

I think that the studios will continue to plan to release DVDs of movies they don't think will do terribly well at the box office--or that they know will do well on DVD--very close to the theatrical releases. In the future, however, they probably won't be as boneheaded as Fox and make such a big deal of it. If they had kept their plans to themselves, theater chains wouldn't have complained and they STILL could have released the DVD 6 weeks after the theatrical release. The chains might have complained afterwards, but I think the studios would have the leverage in that case since the chains couldn't claim that potential moviegoers skipped the theater solely in anticipation of a quick DVD release.

And really, since this quick release trend is only happening with titles that don't do well in theaters anyway, it shouldn't matter that much to the chains.

[MJKTool]

Anyone want to place a bet on when Kelly's first appearance will be in Playboy?

[Blake]

Originally posted by MJKTool
Anyone want to place a bet on when Kelly's first appearance will be in Playboy? Stay on topic! :)

(hopefully sooner rather than later though)

[MJKTool]

Originally posted by Blake
Stay on topic! :)


ok.

If they were to include a free copy of Kelly in Playboy with the dvd of whatever this movie is called, think of the sales!!!

[SirPablo]

This is one of the funniest threads I've read in a loooong time.

Anyone post pics yet? And I'd say 1.5 mil

[mcbg1]

Here's some pics of the movie for those interested :

http://www.fromjustintokelly.com/assets/images/galleryPopUp/content-2.jpg


http://www.fromjustintokelly.com/assets/images/galleryPopUp/content-5.jpg

http://www.fromjustintokelly.com/assets/images/galleryPopUp/content-10.jpg

http://www.fromjustintokelly.com/assets/images/galleryPopUp/content-12.jpg

[DRG]

Hmm, like the third one. But they really should show a bit more skin. Heck, the Annette Funicello beach movies of the 60's show more skin than this.

p.s. Whoever introduced the sarong as a beachwear item should be shot. ;)

[mcbg1]

There's plenty of shots of girls dancing in bikini in the movie so you should be satisfied :)

[Hokeyboy]

Egads! Picture #4 is taken at the Venetian Pools in Coral Gables!!

They cheesified my favorite summertime hangout!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

That does it. Next time I see any of these guys I'm gonna pee in their soup.

[mcbg1]

You can now watch a scene from the movie at IGN Film Force :

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/421/421722p1.html

[das Monkey]

"My friends call me 'Kelly' for short." :hscratch:

Ugh ... hard to judge much from one scene, but Kelly didn't particularly shine in the acting department. Justin looked much more comfortable with his lines.

das

[mcbg1]

I know this clip isn't the best to show Kelly's acting, I dunno why they chose this one.

It's not that bad in the movie though and the musical sequences make you forget about the acting anyway. It's a cute movie overall and people should give it a chance, not to start another heated debate lol

[Rogue588]

Originally posted by das Monkey
"My friends call me 'Kelly' for short." :hscratch: :lol:

mcbg1, since you've already seen the finished product, could you possibly tell us what people who aren't her friends call her..?

[mcbg1]

I honestly don't know lol

In the movie her name is Kelly Taylor , it's probably something the screenwriter found funny lol.

Perhaps the theater version will explain more about this situation than in the test screening version I saw.

[das Monkey]

My friends call the screenwriter "idiot" for short. ;)

das

[ChefWinduAZ]

I was channel surfing this morning and finally saw an ad for the movie. And what was it airing during......Saturday morning cartoons.

[mcbg1]

This movie is aimed at Kids and Teens

That's why it's mostly promoted on kids shows and channels.

Don't take it as a serious dramatic adult film guys, it's just a fun mindless movie.

[chrisih8u]

I just read in the paper that this will not be screened for critics.

[Pants]

Originally posted by chrisih8u
I just read in the paper that this will not be screened for critics. Kiss of Death

[mcbg1]

You should name a source before making this statement

By the way the movie WILL be screened for critics.

Also the movie is pushed to June 20th because the demand is higher than expected and theaters owners need more time to reserve their screens for this movie.

Finally, 2 new clips ( Musical Sequences ) can be found at :

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/422/422215p1.html?fromint=1&submit.x=52&submit.y=15

[Groucho]

Originally posted by mcbg1
By the way the movie WILL be screened for critics.You should name a source before making this statement

[mcbg1]

Well how about someone straight inside Fox ????

[chrisih8u]

My source is page 25 of the Boston Herald.

[mcbg1]

My source at Fox told me this morning that the movie will be sent to more theaters than previously planned due to a high demand and that the movie will be screened to critics probably late next week or the week before the movie's release.

[Groucho]

Originally posted by mcbg1
Well how about someone straight inside Fox ???? You can't fool me. There's nobody straight inside Fox. Except maybe that O'Reilly guy (unless his wife is a "beard").

[Pants]

mcbg1- It's just not healthy to be this excited about this film. Can't you just be into Star Trek or something?

[chrisih8u]

http://www2.bostonherald.com/inside_track/inside_track/kell06042003.htm




Herald staff
Wednesday, June 4, 2003








The first feature-length movie in the ``American Idol'' franchise won't debut for two weeks, but it already has disaster written all over it!


``From Justin to Kelly'' features the singing, dancing and line-reading talents of first ``Idol'' winner Kelly Clarkson and her runner-up boytoy, Justin Guarini, as they spin through a swiftly fabricated musical romance.

A Fox rep confirmed yesterday the film will debut June 20 - a week later than scheduled - and gave no explanation for the studio's decision not to offer advance press screenings.

But when a studio elects to leave critics out of the loop, it's generally because the flick's soooo bad even Hollywood's most deluded optimists have gone to Plan B: Try to get as many unsuspecting fools into the cinemas on opening weekend before Justin and Kelly are croaked by bad word-of-mouth.

``It's certainly a piece of work,'' said Someone Who's Seen It. The film has America's democratically elected Idol and her consort sharing love and laughter against the exotic backdrop of spring break in Miami.

With listless deliveries better suited to confessions at gunpoint, the couple first meet when Kelly helps Justin escape a herd of party girls by climbing through a bathroom window. But Justin fears his hair is ``too big'' to fit through! ``I'm from Texas,'' Miss Independent robotically intones. ``I've seen bigger.'' Oy.

[Pants]

Originally posted by mcbg1
Also the movie is pushed to June 20th because the demand is higher than expected and theaters owners need more time to reserve their screens for this movie.
Movies are never moved back because of increased demand and greater anticipation than expected. Sometimes they're moved forward, but never back.

Sounds like your Fox friend is feeding you the spin. "Oh we're moving it back because it's going to be a bigger hit than it's expected and we need more time to get the theaters ready....yeah that's the ticket."

[mcbg1]

Believe what you want you negative peeps :)

[Rogue588]

Originally posted by chrisih8u
But when a studio elects to leave critics out of the loop, it's generally because the flick's soooo bad even Hollywood's most deluded optimists have gone to Plan B: Try to get as many unsuspecting fools into the cinemas on opening weekend before Justin and Kelly are croaked by bad word-of-mouth. Apparently someone at the Herald reads mcbg1's posts here.
"It's certainly a piece of work,'' said Someone Who's Seen It. The film has America's democratically elected Idol and her consort sharing love and laughter against the exotic backdrop of spring break in Miami.

With listless deliveries better suited to confessions at gunpoint, the couple first meet when Kelly helps Justin escape a herd of party girls by climbing through a bathroom window. But Justin fears his hair is ``too big'' to fit through! ``I'm from Texas,'' Miss Independent robotically intones. ``I've seen bigger.'' Oy. :lol:rotfl Will this "classic" surpass Glitter's BO..?

[Groucho]

mcbg1,

What's your prediction for this film's box office take opening weekend?

[fumanstan]

Kelly is cute :)

[mcbg1]

Guys I'm not saying this movie will beat The Hulk or will win any academy awards ! I'm just saying it won't a flop.

What now ? Am i not allowed to like the movie ?

I've seen it and I liked it. You guys keep bashing it even before it's released. If you see it and then you hate it, that's fine. Just don't bash it until you've seen it.

If you don't want to see it, then keep your mouth shut and talk about other movies you've seen.

[Johnny Zhivago]

:lol:

This thread should be a sticky, fo sho...

[Pants]

sharing love and laughter against the exotic backdrop of spring break in Miami Ooooo, exotic Miami!

[Rogue588]

Originally posted by mcbg1
If you don't want to see it, then keep your mouth shut and talk about other movies you've seen. man mcbg1...where were you yesterday? I could've used some funny then..

[Chrisedge]

So what's our opening weekend predictions? mcbg1, we know you like it (which is perfectly ok) but what means "Not a flop"?

I say less than 4 mil opening weekend.

(I will probably check it out once it hits HBO btw)

[Peep]

Interesting tidbit from the Reuters article:

"Release windows have been gradually closing for some time in the industry. According to numbers tracked by the National Association of Theater Owners, the average time between theatrical and home video release totaled five months and eight days for the industry this year, while last year's totals were five months and 12 days."

So, the industry average has slipped less than 3% since last year? That hardly seems a trend worth noting.

On a side note, why was pants suspended and mcbg1 (who has been significantly more disruptive and insulting) not?

[mcbg1]

Because aside from telling some people to shut up, I never said anything bad to anybody + I apologize for it.

Pants made some very explicit comments in another thread as far as I know.

[BigDaddy]

Originally posted by Pants
mcbg1- It's just not healthy to be this excited about this film. Can't you just be into Star Trek or something?


rotfl
rotfl
rotfl

[LiquidSky]

I throw a movie party once a month. It's a great excuse to watch cheesy films, drink beer, "light up" and have a Mystery Science Theater type running commentary. I cannot wait for this one to be released on DVD. :)

[spainlinx0]

Originally posted by LiquidSky
I throw a movie party once a month. It's a great excuse to watch cheesy films, drink beer, "light up" and have a Mystery Science Theater type running commentary. I cannot wait for this one to be released on DVD. :)

That's actually a pretty good idea.

[LiquidSky]

Originally posted by spainlinx0
That's actually a pretty good idea.

Thanks!

We have done it for "Glitter" and "Swim Fan" and will do "The Real Cancun" in July. :)

[mytzplyx]

Originally posted by mcbg1
Because aside from telling some people to shut up, I never said anything bad to anybody + I apologize for it.

Pants made some very explicit comments in another thread as far as I know.

Actually no, you never really apologized. The closest one was "ok well, then I respect your opinion."

[Goldberg74]

I'll skip the theater then and just get the DVD... I'm not afraid to admit it...

[AI/AA voice]"Hi everyone, my name is Goldberg and I have a problem..."[/AI/AA voice]

[Peep]

Originally posted by mcbg1
Because aside from telling some people to shut up, I never said anything bad to anybody + I apologize for it.

Never said anything bad to anybody? How about:

Pants how many times will I have to tell you that your mother doesn't want you to go on a computer past your bedtime

or

You should be at school darling then hurry up

or

You seem like you're under 19 yourself by the way you're acting....

[NitroJMS]

Or how about this one from this thread (http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=295292):

"By the way, From Justin To Kelly isn't the best film ever but it's not the worst either so shut the f up!"

[mcbg1]

I said I didn't say anything bad after I apologized for what I said before, can't you read ???

Anyway if you want to post in this thread, talk about the movie not about me ....... ( I wont call you names this time haha:) )

[mytzplyx]

Originally posted by mcbg1
I said I didn't say anything bad after I apologized for what I said before, can't you read ???

Anyway if you want to post in this thread, talk about the movie not about me ....... ( I wont call you names this time haha:) )

Again, not that it matters, but you NEVER apologized.

[mytzplyx]

Well, I just think this movie's gonna be bad if its coming out on DVD twice as quick as the average release time for DVDs. What's the reasoning behind that? That its a good movie? Methinks not.

[Sunday Morning]

I seriously can't believe how many replies & views this thread has gotten. I mean, it's "From justin to kelly"!

Oops, I contributed to this insanity. Oh well!

[Jackskeleton]

Guess what.. No screening for critics.. Man, Fox has pretty much stamped the death certificate for this film with it's actions. ;)

American Idol winner Kelly Clarkson has backed a decision by 20th Century Fox not to screen From Justin to Kelly, her upcoming movie with runner-up Justin Guarini, for film critics. In an interview with TV Guide, appearing in today's (Monday) online edition, Clarkson remarks, "I can tell you right now that none of the critics are gonna like this movie. They like stuff like In the Bedroom. They're gonna want to tear into it because all people like to do is build something up to tear it down. This movie shouldn't be screened by the critics because it's not for them -- it's for the fans." Asked whether she found acting "a challenge," Clarkson replied, "Justin and I are used to learning while just doing it. ... It's not like it's The Shawshank Redemption. Twelve-year-olds aren't into that."

[mcbg1]

well she's right, critics won't like it no matter what the film would be like.

It's something for the fans and not for people expecting a piece of art. It's just a fun brainless summer movie.

[Rogue588]

umm...so was Hollywood Homicide and there were some critics that liked it..

[das Monkey]

Just a recap:

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth mcbg1 •<HR SIZE=1>Fox has faith in this movie. The test screenings went extremely well and they are promoting it a lot. You just hate everything AI related and you keep making negative judgments about it even though you know nothing about the facts.
I've seen previews for it on MTV, Fox, WB, and a lot of other major networks.

WWE Jedi : You have no idea of what you're talking about so shut the hell up. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth mcbg1 •<HR SIZE=1>Like I said previously, the acting is good and the music and choregraphy is great. It's not gonna bomb that's for sure because unlike you I've seen the trailer at least 10 times in the last week and the right audience is targeted ( teens )

Fox has great faith in it since the test screenings went so well. It's one of the reasons the movie was pushed from April to June.<HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth mcbg1 •<HR SIZE=1>well I think you don't know anyone inside Fox and 19 Entertainment so you're opinion is wrong.

They have faith in this movie and they will stick by it. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth mcbg1 •<HR SIZE=1>I don't know Kelly but I do know very well someone very close to her and that's why I take it very personally when she's insulted.

I don't care if some people don't have faith in it, I'm saying I know that Fox and 19 Entertainment have faith in it and will stick by it.

I'm telling you to back off and calm down, I will say what I believe is right and no one will stop me. I know what I'm talking about since I've seen the final product.

So unless you've seen the movie, all of you need to calm down and stop bashing it. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth chrisih8u •<HR SIZE=1>I just read in the paper that this will not be screened for critics. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth mcbg1 •<HR SIZE=1>You should name a source before making this statement

<B>By the way the movie WILL be screened for critics.</B><HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth mcbg1 •<HR SIZE=1>My source at Fox told me this morning that the movie will be sent to more theaters than previously planned due to a high demand and that <B>the movie will be screened to critics probably late next week or the week before the movie's release. </B><HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let me know if I've missed anything. With a 7 page thread, I wouldn't want the factual information to get lost in all the arguing. <B>mcbg1</B>, as you have noted your "sources" inside Fox and have vehemently maintained the accuracy of your statements, I hope you don't mind that I have quoted you here. There's just been so much misinformation in the thread that I wanted to get all the truth in one post to avoid confusion.*

das

* Off-topic assertions of maturity, instructions to STFU, analysis of posters' sleeping cycles, and declarations to not post in this thread anymore were not included in this collection per <B>Blake</B>'s request to stay on topic: the release of the film.

[Jackskeleton]

As stated before. My sources (Family and old co-workers) inside fox stated that the company wants to unload this one fast.

[Lastblade]

At least Kelly Clarkson got it right, it ain't no Shawshank...

[Goldberg74]

I wanna sit next to Lisa Swartzbahm when she watches this 'masterpiece'! :lol:

[Pants]

I wanna sit next to mcbg1 when he watches this 'masterpiece'!

[Groucho]

After being incredibly vocal about all of his "inside information" that has since been proven wrong, mcbg1 has mysteriously disappeared from this thread. I wonder why?

[brizz]

I think he got sick from eating all that crow :lol:


This is the best thread since topbunk....whatever happened to that guy anyway?

[Rogue588]

perhaps he feels betrayed by duped into being a shill for FOX*..?

* [And/or 19 Entertainment...;)]

[mcbg1]

lol guys I'm disapointed that the movie won't be screened for critics because I've seen it and I liked it. I guess Fox plans have changed in the last week because like I said, my source had told me it would be screened.

Anyway I liked the movie and If it does well at the box office, great. If it doesn't, too bad but I will still go see it again at the theater and will buy it on dvd.

[das Monkey]

"Local man sees pop culture film 632 times and counting in effort to spite online forum. Details at 11."

das

[Jackskeleton]

Seems like your sources let you down.. while mine were correct. I wonder which one's were right after all... ;)

[Jonny2k1]

This movie looks horrible, plain and simple. I can't stand the sight of that Justin kid anymore....this looks like a "Real Cancun" turned into a musical.

[mcbg1]

Why does people keep comparing J2K to the real cancun ?

The real cancun was basically a reality movie with just regular people going to spring break doing non-scripted stuff.

From Justin To Kelly is a scripted movie musical where people act and it is targeted at kids and teens so it is much more mainstream. Yes it features two people from reality shows but these people are acting and they have a lot of experience in it ( ex : plays and theater )

[briank]

OMG, just 3 days left!

......I better go get in line now.

[Groucho]

Originally posted by mcbg1
From Justin To Kelly is a scripted movie musical where people "act"Corrected.

[rennervision]

Ironically, I believe this is now the most hotly anticipated film on this forum.

[William Fuld]

It's not hotly anticipated, it's just the biggest fish in the barrel.

[mcbg1]

I'm still saying that you guys should see it before you make any comments on it, if possible. I'm trying to be nice here hehe

[rennervision]

Well I was about to suggest to the mods to create a special From Justin to Kelly talk page now that all the Matrix buzz is slowing down.

[Rogue588]

Originally posted by briank
OMG, just 3 days left!......I better go get in line now. :lol: Think Triumph will be outside this one...? Nah. Too easy.

BTW...does anyone have the list of IMAX theatres I can see this at...?

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by mcbg1
I'm still saying that you guys should see it before you make any comments on it, if possible. I'm trying to be nice here hehe

yup.. You are just being the nice guy who tells everyone to "STFU". ;)

really. How would you like your crow prepared?

In all truth. You really can't say these folks are acting. they might have had some small time theater experience but just like I have played Operation a couple of times, it doesn't mean you would let me operate on you. :p or would you. I have inside sources that say I'm a really good doctor. ;)

[mcbg1]

I'm not saying they will win an oscar for this movie but for the material they were given to work with, they did a good job.

Anyway Jackskeleton you seem to want to be a smartass so I'll let you be one if it that's what makes you happy :)

[Rogue588]

mcbg1?

I have to truly thank/commend you. You are singlehandedly responsible for bringing the fun [for me] back to the forum. I don't know if you truly believe half of what you're saying, but your steadfastness and delivery [no matter HOW misdirected/flat out wrong] deserve a :up: & a :lol:.

I just hope this thread is still active once this flick is released on DVD next week...

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by mcbg1
but for the material they were given to work with,


Yeah. I learned a lot from what fox did here. You see I looked through my trash can and found some scribbled on paper, made a paper airplane and all. Sure it doesn't fly far and it has a lot of rips in it. Not to mention it smells bad, but hey.. Just like this, I did the best I could out of what I had at hand. ;)

[mcbg1]

You guys, I'm starting to like you for some reasons hehe.

At this point, I really don't care if some of you bash it because it will still be a guilty pleasure of mine and nothing will take that away. I enjoyed it and will probably enjoy it in future viewings.

[Jackskeleton]

Fine fine fine, Let us get our Ya Ya's off since what is going on is exactly the opposite of what you said was going to happen and fox really looks like they are dumping this as something to make a quick buck while they can.

[mcbg1]

Ok so people here are entitled to their opinion but god forbid if someone actually likes the movie, then they will forever persecuted because of this ? :)

By the way, if Fox wanted to make a quick buck out of it, why didn't they release it last april when AI2 was still running and it was clearly the right time to release it ? Or why did they push it from June 13th when it had a chance to make a lot of money to June 20th against The Hulk ? It just seems like there's something Fox see in it that your source isn't telling you... once again : :)

[Groucho]

Originally posted by mcbg1
Ok so people here are entitled to their opinion but god forbid if someone actually likes the movie, then they will forever persecuted because of this ?Yeah, that's pretty much it.

[Jackskeleton]

Someone liking it has nothing to do with it. I wouldn't mind someone really caring about AI and not being so vocal about it. You jumped the train and started telling people to "STFU" and your many many different times you stated that a comment would be the last from you only to come back 2 minutes later to post again. Your actions has stapled you as one of those "crazy" members that everyone liked to laugh about.

Anyhow. Why didn't they release it during AI's time frame? I would assume post production work was needed. I'm sure Fox was hoping to cash in on that but just couldn't make it. Then the push from june 13th.. well again, post production work could have pushed it. Now why it's being put up against the HULK.. I'm sorry, but this doesn't mean that fox has faith in this. This simply means that they are trying to put it up against something that already has a set audiance in hopes that everyone who is not part of that said audiance will go to AI as an alternative. this is like ESPN showing Ice skating on monday nights when ABC is showing NFL. You try to appeal to the others so that a family can go to the movies. Young billy would like to see the Hulk with dad and Mom and little katie can go see Justin to Kelly.

My source told me what he told me. that fox doesn't have much faith, but is willing to get as much as they could. Your source has already been proven wrong.. if you even have a source inside. You act like it's a big secret. You do realize that these "sources" are just friends talking about what is going on. Stuff to talk about the water cooler about and it's not like they are trying to cover anything. they say what they know. as we can see from your "sources" miss-information, they had something they weren't TELLING YOU. ;) either that or you weren't willing to hear because of your AI tainted glasses.

either way.. the moral of this thread... getting owned is pretty funny. :p

[mcbg1]

Jackskeleton : I just think it's hilarious you write so much about a movie you don't even care about lol. It's like you have a personal grudge against it.

[Jackskeleton]

No, no personal grudge against it. I just find it down right funny that you take one stance and disregard everyone else's comments. In many cases you tell them off and pass it off as you are doing nothing wrong. Then when it comes to pasture and it ends up you were wrong, you can't eat crow.

You questioned My "sources" and stood by yours and now that we find out your sources were wrong I just enjoy gloating so much about it. :)

Oh man. hee hee, funny stuff.

[mcbg1]

In the last 2-3 pages I haven't told anyone to shut up or nothing like that.

I mean it's great if my source's failure is your only life accomplishment but get over it. What are we in, 3rd grade lol ?

[Blake]

Simma down now...