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Doug Heffernan
05-19-03, 07:57 AM
HI BTVS fans,

My wife and I can't believe it, so much so, that we are in a huge state of denial that the Tuesday is the, *gulp*, last episode . For a nostalgic goodbye, we are going to watch the first episode tomorrow night right before the final one.

How is everyone else dealing with this? I have to admit that when my wife first watched Buffy, I wouldn't even give it a chance - I don't really like "horror" or "Sci-Fi", or however you want to describe the show. But finally, I gave it chance somewhere in season 3, I pretended I wasn't watching, but I kept asking questions about the characters - then , I became hooked.

Goodbye Buffy, and thanks Joss for the great television. It's had it's ups and downs, but it has always been entertaining and addicting. Probably one of the only shows that, more often that not, left me waiting in anticipation for the next episode. Now, that feeling of anticipation will be gone :(.

Doug H

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Laertes
05-19-03, 08:26 AM
I was going to start this thread!!! I was fine with it ending until today. Now I'm getting a little sad. I haven't read any spoilers or watched the "next episode" clips, so I really don't know what's going to happen.

If Buffy dies (again), I'll be sad Wednesday. :(

C Roberts
05-19-03, 08:47 AM
I'm sad that its ending, but I'm glad its had seven seasons of shows. Not every good series gets that many.

I haven't read any spoilers, but I don't think Buffy will die at the end. That card has been played already.

KayUK
05-19-03, 08:48 AM
Farscape and Buffy ending in the same year is too much! TV will never be the same again.

Pointyskull
05-19-03, 09:03 AM
Love the show, and will miss it dearly.
However, I think it's best to end it.

7 seasons is a looooong time in TVland, and I'd rather see it wrap up now before it turns into another Mulder and Scully-less X-Files.....

wendersfan
05-19-03, 10:05 AM
I love BtVS, but I've seen lots of TV shows come and go, so I'm OK with it. I would much rather Buffy go out now, than drag on years too long (like The X-Files), or get cancelled before its time (like Twin Peaks).

Dr. DVD
05-19-03, 10:09 AM
What 12thmonkey said. I have see most of the episodes and all of the ones from the past two seasons. Season three stands out as the best of all seven IMO.
I feel sad that it is going, but would be even more saddened if it went out with a whimper as a show that had become a mockery of itself from overstaying its visit.
I seem to notice that a lot of people were casual fans at first that became addicted with time. Is there anyone here who can honestly say they've been watching since the series premiere? I remember seeing a little bit of its premiere and not thinking it would last. How wrong I was!
Oh well, at least Angel will still be around after this year, so the Buffyverse won't completely vanish. :)

Pointyskull
05-19-03, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Is there anyone here who can honestly say they've been watching since the series premiere?

:wave:

Skorp
05-19-03, 10:12 AM
I'm not dealing with this well at all. I try not to think about it, but the countdown promos that UPN has been running over the past several episodes ("Only 3 episodes left... Only 2 episodes left... Only 1 episode...") always hit me like a ton of bricks. I fully expect to be devasted once the final episode airs.

Buffy has been so much more than just another show on TV. It has been a part of my life for 7 years. I've met people and forged some really good friendships over our shared love for this show, its stories, and its characters. It's like Buffy, Xander, Willow, Giles, et. al., have become members of our extended family. We've shared their ups & downs, their humor & despair, their triumphs, and their losses (Jenny, Joyce, Tara).

Things really won't be the same without Buffy around. Although I enjoy Angel and am glad it's coming back, I've never related to it the way I do to Buffy.

Thank you, Joss -- and everyone involved -- for the past 7 years.

She Saved the World. A Lot.

wendersfan
05-19-03, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Is there anyone here who can honestly say they've been watching since the series premiere?
Not me. I watched the first episode and hated it. I didn't start watching again until season 4, and have since caught up with the backstory through reruns. Although I am as devoted to the series as just about anyone, I think I'm a fairly atypical Buffy fan. I hate the first season, and strongly dislike seasons 2 and 3. I don't think the show was consistently good at all until season 4 (the one everyone seems to hate). I couldn't stand the high school milieu, and my two least favorite characters from the shows entire run are Cordelia and Angel. I also don't like Faith much at all. The other atypical thing about my fandom is that I think season 6 is by far the best season, and one of the best seasons of any show, ever. I don't care if SMG thought it was too dark, or if other fans didn't like it, I thought it was great.

Skorp
05-19-03, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Is there anyone here who can honestly say they've been watching since the series premiere?
I can. Although I had never seen the movie, I was a big horror fan and had really liked Sarah Michelle Gellar from her All My Children days, so I thought I'd give it a shot. I became an instant fan.

I also had the foresight to tape the premiere (as I have every episode since). That tape easily became the most-watched, most-loaned tape in my collection, as I introduced more & more people to the glories of Buffy.

movieking
05-19-03, 11:11 AM
I didn't start to watch it until probably the 6th season, but that was because it wasn't available on any of my cable channels until then. I watched Season One on DVD, then I caught up with the rest of the seasons via syndication on the Space Network, where they ran it all the way up until the end of Season Six. Picked up Season Seven at the beginning. So basically I watched the full seven seasons of Buffy in less than two years.

Max Fischer
05-19-03, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Is there anyone here who can honestly say they've been watching since the series premiere?

That's my one claim-to-fame. I've seen every single episode when it originally aired (thanks TiVo) and even the "failed" pilot. That thing was bad. :)

Chew
05-19-03, 11:27 AM
Same here.

I've been watching every week ever since the pilot seven seasons ago. (same deal with Angel).

I've loved this show since day one, but also thought it wouldn't last.

Max Fischer
05-19-03, 11:53 AM
I can't really say whether I "thought it would last", but I've always hoped. I've also always had off from my jobs tuesday nights, and the only time I wasn't able to watch it live was last year when I had to take a night class on tuesdays. But I watched it immediately when I got home. :)

NCMojo
05-19-03, 12:10 PM
I am a little confused by the point of this whole thread. Buffy is not going to be ending on Tuesday. The show will be back on UPN for it's 8th season next year, and will continue to showcase the excellent talents of Sarah Michelle Gellar for years to come. There will be all new episodes, new plotlines, etc., for us to enjoy year after year after year.

Also, not sure what the reference to Farscape was about... there will be lots of new episodes of that, too, right? I mean, it's a great show and they'd be crazy to cancel it. Right?

Right? OK then.

Pointyskull
05-19-03, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by ncmojo
I am a little confused by the point of this whole thread. Buffy is not going to be ending on Tuesday. The show will be back on UPN for it's 8th season next year, and will continue to showcase the excellent talents of Sarah Michelle Gellar for years to come. There will be all new episodes, new plotlines, etc., for us to enjoy year after year after year.

Also, not sure what the reference to Farscape was about... there will be lots of new episodes of that, too, right? I mean, it's a great show and they'd be crazy to cancel it. Right?

Right? OK then.


:hscratch:

Max Fischer
05-19-03, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by ncmojo
I am a little confused by the point of this whole thread. Buffy is not going to be ending on Tuesday. The show will be back on UPN for it's 8th season next year, and will continue to showcase the excellent talents of Sarah Michelle Gellar for years to come. There will be all new episodes, new plotlines, etc., for us to enjoy year after year after year.

Also, not sure what the reference to Farscape was about... there will be lots of new episodes of that, too, right? I mean, it's a great show and they'd be crazy to cancel it. Right?

Right? OK then.

:confused: :hscratch: :whofart:
:hscratch: :whofart: :confused:
:whofart: :confused: :hscratch:

Chew
05-19-03, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by ncmojo
I am a little confused by the point of this whole thread. Buffy is not going to be ending on Tuesday. The show will be back on UPN for it's 8th season next year, and will continue to showcase the excellent talents of Sarah Michelle Gellar for years to come. There will be all new episodes, new plotlines, etc., for us to enjoy year after year after year.

Also, not sure what the reference to Farscape was about... there will be lots of new episodes of that, too, right? I mean, it's a great show and they'd be crazy to cancel it. Right?

Right? OK then.

I guess I'm the only one who gets this.

He's in DENIAL........ ;)

wendersfan
05-19-03, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Chew
I guess I'm the only one who gets this.

He's in DENIAL........ ;)
No, I got it, too, but I was away at lunch during the last half of this thread.

To keep this kind of on-topic, I just got invited to a final episode party. My first since the final episode of M*A*S*H.

Doug Heffernan
05-19-03, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Chew
I guess I'm the only one who gets this.

He's in DENIAL........ ;)

I get it too!

costanza187
05-19-03, 01:20 PM
This is tough to deal with... Next week I am starting over from Season 1 on DVD, reruns is the only way I will be able to survive.

adamblast
05-19-03, 01:52 PM
Anger: It's SMG's fault. The brat thinks she can make it big in the movies. Hah. Good luck with Scooby 2.

Denial: "Buffy is not going to be ending on Tuesday. The show will be back on UPN for it's 8th season next year, and will continue to showcase the excellent talents of Sarah Michelle Gellar for years to come."

Bargaining: Maybe if we all run out and buy the DVDs they'll make a string of theatrical movies. They'll "be right back after a short break" if we beg them enough. After all, they want to make money, right?

Acceptance: Seven years sure goes by quickly. At least it had a decent run. Good show.

cartman
05-19-03, 02:16 PM
I'm probably the "newest" Buffy fan here, having only started watching this past Christmas (when I got S1 and 2 on DVD). In a way, I'm glad I didn't start watching until then since I was able to watch episode after episode without having to wait through the summers and such. On the other hand, I didn't find the greatness that is the Buffyverse until now. I had seen the movie in theaters and actually liked it, but never gave the show a chance. It was actually the X-Box game that drove me to try it out, and that led to me becoming an addict. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go sob uncontrollably for a good long while.

Josh-da-man
05-19-03, 02:26 PM
Good riddance.

Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but I'd rather see it go away now than just keep going and going like "X-Files" or "Frasier," outstaying its welcome.

Frankly, from all indications, combat fatigue was starting to set in around seasons six and seven. The writing on the wall is best read and heeded, for if it is ignored, you start to make a fool out of yourself. (*cough*X-Files*cough)

The same could be said of "Seinfeld." The show peaked creatively, coasted on a plateau for a while, started slipping a bit, and was ended. Buffy took the same road.

movieking
05-19-03, 03:20 PM
Just watched the first two episodes of the series again on DVD. Some random thoughts and questions:

The Master disposed of one of his servant's eyes in the same way that Caleb disposed of Xander's.

Did we ever learn anything about the slayer that immediately preceded Buffy?

Damn, Buffy and Cordelia looked hot in those little skirts.

Joyce was made out to be a bit New-Ageish at the beginning. I am glad that they didn't really follow through on it.

Changing actresses for Willow from the pilot was a great idea. Of course it is hard to see anyone else but AH in the role now, but I think that she did a better job that the actress in the pilot.

I had forgotten about Eric Balfour in the beginning of Buffy. I think that I read that he was supposed to be one of the regular gang (later to be known as the Scoobies), but I guess they changed their minds (He is probably better known as Milo from Season One of 24, or as Gabe from 6 Feet Under).

movieking
05-19-03, 03:35 PM
And am I the only one that hasn't liked Xander from the start? I have never liked him, and he continues to irk me to this day. One good thing about the last Buffy: no more Xander!

Jlbkwrm
05-19-03, 03:40 PM
Haven't been watching since the pilot, but I've come fairly close. My first episode was first-run Invisible Girl/Out of Mind, Out of Sight. Watching Prophecy Girl the next week with almost no story background was an interesting experience.

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'm glad the show is finally going. It started showing fatigue in the fourth season, and by the sixth season almost everything that had made it special and worth-watching, for me, was gone. In my DVDs, The Gift will be the last Buffy episode ever.

What's hard is dealing with the fact that, now, the show will never recover. I've been waiting for it to "get better" for a while, and the end of the series means it never will. Maybe in five years, they'll be ready to do a decent follow-up movie or two.

It's been a weird, wild ride, but I'm ready for it to be over.

Originally posted by movieking

I had forgotten about Eric Balfour in the beginning of Buffy. I think that I read that he was supposed to be one of the regular gang (later to be known as the Scoobies), but I guess they changed their minds (He is probably better known as Milo from Season One of 24, or as Gabe from 6 Feet Under).

The story, as I've heard it, is that Jesse was always supposed to die. Whedon wanted to mess with the viewer's heads by putting him in the opening credits for the first episode, and then killing him off. Due to time/money constraints, they couldn't make two versions of the opening, so the whole opening character fake-out wound up waiting until season 6.

datagirl7
05-19-03, 03:58 PM
I'm hosting a Buffy party at my place for my neighbors who watch. Seems it's got quite a following in my area.

I only really started watching about a year ago, but it's a great show.

C Roberts
05-19-03, 04:09 PM
I wish I had thought of the final Buffy party thing. Kind of too late now though.

I've been watching since the beginning (without daring to admit to my non-watching friends) although I didn't see every episode as it originally aired. That was before my TiVo.
I finally convinced one of my friends to give the show a chance when it came to DVD. My pitch to him was that she's an "unlikely superhero" and I knew he'd watch just to see what I meant because he's a fan of unusual superheroes. Within two months he helped me get all of our friends hooked. :p

I'm a rare fan it seems as I like every season and think the overall life stories of the characters have been interesting and fun. I'm glad they never took the Star Trek route and ignored character issues to please the fans who wanted them to just be cardboard cutouts who never changed or were never affected by their experiences.

slop101
05-19-03, 04:13 PM
I love(d) Buffy - but am I the only one who thinks that this the right time for it to end?

Haven't they done everything they can? Wouldn't keeping it on life support cheapen what has come before?

6 1/2 years (145 episodes) is plenty - time to move on.

palebluedot
05-19-03, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by slop101
I love(d) Buffy - but am I the only one who thinks that this the right time for it to end?

Haven't they done everything they can? Wouldn't keeping it on life support cheapen what has come before?

6 1/2 years (145 episodes) is plenty - time to move on.


IMHO, I think they have several directions (not spin-offs) they could take the show and have it interesting. That is of course if only the actors are into it. I think the biggest thing the show is missing right now, and why it's good to stop it, is the actors just aren't into it anymore it seems.

grunter
05-19-03, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by wendersfan
Although I am as devoted to the series as just about anyone, I think I'm a fairly atypical Buffy fan. I hate the first season, and strongly dislike seasons 2 and 3. I don't think the show was consistently good at all until season 4 (the one everyone seems to hate). I couldn't stand the high school milieu, and my two least favorite characters from the shows entire run are Cordelia and Angel. I also don't like Faith much at all. The other atypical thing about my fandom is that I think season 6 is by far the best season, and one of the best seasons of any show, ever. I don't care if SMG thought it was too dark, or if other fans didn't like it, I thought it was great.

Right there with you, wenders.

Season 6 blows away all of the other seasons.

:thumbsup:

AJP
05-19-03, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by palebluedot
IMHO, I think they have several directions (not spin-offs) they could take the show and have it interesting. That is of course if only the actors are into it. I think the biggest thing the show is missing right now, and why it's good to stop it, is the actors just aren't into it anymore it seems.

I agree. I spent most of early season 7 hoping it wouldn't be the last, but now I'm ready for it to end even though I believe there are still good stories left to tell.

Based on this season, it seems to me many of the people making Buffy, both in front of and off camera, are just plain burned out and need a change.

Better for Whedon to pack it in, concentrate on Angel for now and hopefully come back with a spinoff or movie later IMO.

mdc3000
05-19-03, 07:13 PM
Wow...What a day... today on SPACE (a canadian sci-fi channel) they had a BUFFY marathon... the top 10 episodes as voted by fans... so I watched 10 solid hours of BUFFY...and then, THE SERIES FINALE was on another channel...just finished the 11 hours of pure BUFFY goodness... reminds me of all things I'll miss about the show...but hell, I'm just happy it had such a good run.

MATT

movieking
05-19-03, 07:26 PM
Matt,
What were the favorite episodes? I totally forgot about the marathon, but I did watch some of the episodes on DVD...

MrN
05-19-03, 11:59 PM
Yes, Buffy will be missed.

But at least we have a spinoff still kicking around - woulda been sadder if I hadn't heard the Angel renewal news.

And hopefully Joss and Co. are thinking of the next show / project...

madcougar
05-20-03, 01:12 AM
I discovered Buffy last year on DVD and have seen every episode since then. It is probably my favorite show of all time after The Simpsons.

Without getting into any spoilers, I've seen the finale and I have to admit getting chocked up about it being the end.

Phuzbox
05-20-03, 01:15 AM
Well I just watched the last episode and.... :(

Doug Heffernan
05-20-03, 07:47 AM
Today will be the last time my wife and I ask each other "Is it a new Buffy tonight?"

:( :( :(

matome
05-20-03, 09:34 AM
:(