She hates his guts, calls his lyrics insane, sexist, and discusting, but due to all of the critical praise, she wants to see it on dvd. Would this be a good bet.
Seantn
03-11-03, 06:39 PM
Is your mom racist?
cooper2000
03-11-03, 06:42 PM
Only if she loves hateful human beings.
I vote to have her stay away. She would be better off avoiding it.
Rypro 525
03-11-03, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Seantn
Is your mom racist? No
jaeufraser
03-11-03, 09:28 PM
If she can watch a fairly gritty drama about people in the ghetto of detroit that's, well, fairly down to earth in my opinion, then yes she would enjoy it. If she can't stand rap music, doesn't want to watch them ghetto folk in their element, and doesn't like more extreme language, than no. The movie doesn't dwell on a lot of Eminem's more outrageous lyrics, but does have the hard edge angry at the world vibe much of his music contains. I thought it to be a very good movie in my opinion.
das Monkey
03-11-03, 10:05 PM
You know my feelings on this: if she's high and mighty and criticizes someone because the media has hyped her into believing so without actually listening to the lyrics or watching the film, then it's best to continue to live in ignorance instead of risking the chance that she's wrong. On the other hand, I've learned from your participation in this forum that while sometimes naive, you're very open to trying new things and learning from those experiences. Considering she's your mother, chances are she's the same way. Best case: she learns something new. Worst case: she confirms her suspicions. Either way, I say it's worth it.
Much like eminem's lyrics, the film is edgy and a bit on the angry side, but life is like that for many people. If she has an overwhelming distaste for rap music or harsh language, then keep her away. Otherwise, as with all things, don't listen to the idiots (including myself) who tell you what to think. Most people who comment on eminem haven't heard a single lyric or if so have heard them out of context (that's not to say that there aren't many with legitimate reasons to hate him). The media has painted him as some evil monster, and sheep everywhere have hopped on board for the ride. You (and your mother) may still not like him or his music or his acting after giving it a chance, but don't let the media hype determine that for you. Watch, listen, and decide for yourself. But rest assured that listening to Elvis won't send you to Hell, attending Ozzfest does not make you a devil worshiper, and listening to eminem won't make you a racist, a homophobe, or a baby-killer.
<B>8 Mile</B> is certainly formulaic, but it's well-acted and tells an entertaining story. While I wouldn't consider it a "great" film, I do consider it to be "very good." If nothing else, "Lose Yourself" is the best song this year.
... and this coming from a guy whose favorite musical artist is Frank Sinatra ...
das
lesterlong
03-11-03, 11:17 PM
Actually unlike Eminem's lyrics this movie lacked death, kidnapping, murders, and rapes. So, I say go ahead and let your mom see it. IMO, this movie was only praised because everyone was expecting Eminem to suck, he didn't but that's all he did.
Seantn
03-12-03, 12:41 AM
Actually unlike Eminem's lyrics this movie lacked death, kidnapping, murders, and rapes.
Which song does Eminem rap about rape in?
Karli
03-12-03, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by Seantn
Which song does Eminem rap about rape in?
Kill You
Refers to raping his mother.
das Monkey
03-12-03, 10:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth Karli •<HR SIZE=1>Kill You
Refers to raping his mother. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
He's mocking his critics saying that about him in "Kill Me." His voice changes to a mocking tone when he says, "Oh, now he's raping his own mother, abusing a whore, snorting coke, and we gave him the Rolling Stone cover?" Most of the song is tongue-in-cheek anyway, and he chuckles at how silly some of it is ... in fact he ends the thing with "hahaha, I'm just playin ladies ... you know I love you."
das
Trigger
03-12-03, 10:34 AM
8 Mile isn't all that good IMO, but your mom would probably like it okay... it's a drama... mom's like dramas.
Iron Chef
03-12-03, 10:52 AM
fo shizzle
Groucho
03-12-03, 10:57 AM
I just had to :lol: at the subject header. Thanks for clarifying that this was the 8 Mile with Eminem (as opposed to the one with Carrot Top).
das Monkey
03-12-03, 11:23 AM
"Dial down the center, bitch!!!"
das
gregorymarshall
03-12-03, 11:43 AM
As long as when she's done watching the movie she realizes that this is FICTION, he is still the same asswipe she thought he was, but for 2 hours she can indulge herself in a "motivational/uplifting"
movie
What a crock - Eminem should tell this fans that if they follow him and do what he does and listen to his advice, that they'll all be working for minimum wage or in jail when there 30.
Eminem is so contradictory its not funny.
Bust
03-12-03, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by das Monkey
The media has painted him as some evil monster, and sheep everywhere have hopped on board for the ride.
The exact same could be said for the reverse argument.
MTV has painted him as some talented artist, and sheep everywhere have hopped on board for the ride.
Originally posted by das Monkey
If nothing else, "Lose Yourself" is the best song this year.
2002 or 2003? I feel like making a list.
Pants
03-12-03, 02:02 PM
Even if your mom LOVED eminem she wouldn't like 8 Mile.
The movie is a turd.
Flynn
03-12-03, 02:08 PM
Your mom would like this movie if she likes to yawn. This had to be one of the most pointless, boring films I've seen all year. And I'm not an Eminem hater - just thought the movie was kind of pointless that's all.
DVD Smurf
03-12-03, 05:50 PM
It could widen her horizon...if she let the film be what it is... :D
Rypro 525
03-19-03, 02:57 PM
Well, she watched it today and amazingly enjoyed it. she enjoyed how it went into the reasons why he was angry, ect. I might even watch it.
Pants
03-19-03, 03:10 PM
No offense RYPRO, but if your mom liked it (or anyones mom for that matter) that pretty much seals the deal...The Movie Sucks!
funkyryno
03-19-03, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Pants
No offense RYPRO, but if your mom liked it (or anyones mom for that matter) that pretty much seals the deal...The Movie Sucks!
:confused:
Was that supposed to be a joke?
the aftermath
03-19-03, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Pants
Even if your mom LOVED eminem she wouldn't like 8 Mile.
The movie is a turd.
Sorry to get off topic here but I have a question for you. Do you like <b>anything</b>? You seem to hate every movie in existence. I've never seen you post anything positive regarding a film. Just curious ;)
Pants
03-19-03, 04:42 PM
Just this morning I posted my admiration for Don Sigel's version of The Killers.
In the thread about Spider, I am praising this excellent film
I also posted my top five James Bond theme songs today.
badger1997
03-19-03, 09:50 PM
The movie did not suck. You may not have liked it Pants, but that doesn't necessarily mean it sucked. It was well-made and well-acted for the most part in my opinion. Was it Oscar-worthy? Probably not, but it still was a decent film. Why not go back to ripping films you haven't seen? You're so good at that.
Pants
03-20-03, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by badger1997
The movie did not suck. You may not have liked it Pants, but that doesn't necessarily mean it sucked. It was well-made and well-acted for the most part in my opinion. Was it Oscar-worthy? Probably not, but it still was a decent film. Why not go back to ripping films you haven't seen? You're so good at that. When have I ever ripped a movie I havn't seen?
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