The Cowboy Bebop movie in theaters April 4,2003

[Rypro 525]

Well just to let some people know who are interested. They changed the american versions title "Knock Knock on Heavens Door" due to issues with Bob Dylen. The movie for some reason is rated R?
Anybody know anything else about this movie.

[The Bus]

:up: :up:

[_tony_]

its probably rated r for language and violence, even though there isn't an excessive amount of either.

i'm surprised they're releasing it to theaters though, it seems like one of those movies cartoon network would pick up.

[Rypro 525]

Has anyone seen this movie (either by getting a Japanese version or lives in a country with this movie) confirm on why this movie would be rated R

[RichC2]

it wouldn't, it isn't very violent at all, nor are there many places for it to be excessively vulgar in a dub.

So you got me. It's PG-13 all the way in my book.

-Rich

[WiccanPagan]

looks like we may finally be getting a legit dvd of this. too bad my paul champagne case is only for 6 discs. :(

[Jackskeleton]

Faye *ALMOST* shows boobies, I say almost cause man it's so close. ;)

A bullet goes through someone pretty much. Plenty of blood their.

It is animated violence, but hey, if it got a pg-13 instead of an R, I'm sure a lot of you will be screaming bloody murder cause you know ratings always tell us if it's a good movie right.. -rolleyes- (In reference to all those who hate when a movie is given a PG-13 rating for what "could have been")

I love both the dub and sub of this series, I look forward to both, and I am pleased to hear that Both will be around in theaters just like spirited away offered. :)

Though the new title kind of throws me for a loop "Knock Knock on heavin's door" eh. I think they would have been able to get away with the original title if you ask me.

[Rypro 525]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Faye *ALMOST* shows boobies, I say almost cause man it's so close. ;)

A bullet goes through someone pretty much. Plenty of blood their.

It is animated violence, but hey, if it got a pg-13 instead of an R, I'm sure a lot of you will be screaming bloody murder cause you know ratings always tell us if it's a good movie right.. -rolleyes- (In reference to all those who hate when a movie is given a PG-13 rating for what "could have been")
I really hate how the Mpaa is like blood=bad. It seems like today, if a movie has any type of blood from an injury, it gets an R. But what about Raiders of the Lost Ark. That movie has a lot of blood, but it only got a PG (I know that there was no pg13 back then.)

[DVD DVD DVD]

I hope they don't cut any scences out for the American theater.

[RichC2]

I stand corrected to my previous comment.

The film has been... MPAA Rating: R for some violent images. -- http://www.animenewsservice.com/ .

Also a bit on Bebop-Columbia connection (kind of odd but watching the episode again, it's kind of weird.)

...and now on to Pierrot Le Fou.

I honestly didn't find the movie that violent, tho my dad felt the fist fight was pretty extreme.

Oh and.. Release Date: April 4th, 2003 (LA/NY).

as if you all didn't already know that :D

-Rich

[fiver]

It's probably rated R due to the terrorism content in the movie rather than any excessive blood, gore, nudity or swearing...silly I admit but probably close to the truth. With recent events, they probably feel that younger teens would be disturbed.

Michael

[Franksta]

how wide a release will this get? it have a feeling it'll get as wide a release as Metropolis. I had a hard time getting to see Spirited Away and i have a feeling i'll have to wait for the Bebop movie to come on dvd. :(

[Pants]

Originally posted by Franksta
how wide a release will this get? it have a feeling it'll get as wide a release as Metropolis. I had a hard time getting to see Spirited Away and i have a feeling i'll have to wait for the Bebop movie to come on dvd. :( It seems like it will be exactly like Metropolis. One week in LA and NY and then on to video. So if your not in those cities you're screwed, but you can go see Just Married...huh, come on JUST MARRIED. It's funny "ha,ha" because they just got married...get it. Oh.

[Jackskeleton]

Originally posted by Pants
It seems like it will be exactly like Metropolis. One week in LA and NY and then on to video. So if your not in those cities you're screwed, but you can go see Just Married...huh, come on JUST MARRIED. It's funny "ha,ha" because they just got married...get it. Oh.

The difference between Just Married and Cowboy Bebop:KOHD are wide. First off do you not understand the concept that Animation is still not widely acceptted as an "adult" medium? Sure their exist a market for this and a fan bases, but for the cost of releasing it in so many theaters does not meet or even come close to the amount it would bring in.

then again, I'm in Los Angeles, Have already seen it in the theaters and will see it again. Maybe you should just move to a big city. ;)

[Pants]

Uh Jack......I was joking. Are you the new Groucho or something?
Just a little humor about how we get 2 screens for Bebop and 3000 for Just Maried.

Just for that I'll be sitting behind you at the Nuart kicking your seat and talking on my cel phone.

[Jackskeleton]

Talking on your cel phone? I wont be the only one jumping you during the showing. ;)

Guess you never got the chance to see it last year at the Egyptain... ;)


8/18/02 - Movie news from LA preview. -- According to those who attended the preview of Knockin' On Heaven's Door at the Egyptian theater in LA, a studio representative from Columbia was present. According to the rep, not only will there be a wide theatrical release of the film, but in those areas showing the film on multiple screens, Columbia will insist that both the sub and the dub be shown.

http://www.egyptiantheatre.com/archive1999/2002/scififantasyhorror.htm


Besides, after your post on how Reebok was totally ripping off office space and ruined it by "Selling it out" to the masses, I tend to miss your sarcasim.

[Rypro 525]

People will think that with an R rated cartoon that it will be like extreme violence or something.

[Pants]

Yeah if it's R-rated I'll be expecting tenticles...lots of tenticles.

Jack: I missed the Egyptian screening last summer. That was a dub. In April it will be a dub in LA. Where's the sub?

[Jackskeleton]

Look for Sub in theaters that can handle DLP I would assume. Much like Spirited away, Columbia wants to do a release in the same manner. screens with both Dub and Sub.

[keyed]

Originally posted by Pants
Yeah if it's R-rated I'll be expecting tenticles...lots of tenticles. Damn, but I need to get some more caffeine. I read that as "Yeah if it's R-rated I'll be expecting testicles...lots of testicles." Dunno which would be worse though.

[Hokeyboy]

Pretty weak opening, but an exciting ending. It's an OK movie, but I can think of too many episodes that were more entertaining.

[Captain Harlock]

I'm just looking forward to seeing it.

[Franksta]

Originally posted by Pants
It seems like it will be exactly like Metropolis. One week in LA and NY and then on to video. So if your not in those cities you're screwed, but you can go see Just Married...huh, come on JUST MARRIED. It's funny "ha,ha" because they just got married...get it. Oh.

well Metropolis played in Washington DC and a few other major cities but you're right these movies don't play many places. i hope the dvd release is quick, the theatrical release has already been deleayed enough. Metropolis was in theaters in winter and was on dvd by april so i guess we can expect Bebop on dvd sometime this summer or early fall.

[karnblack]

Originally posted by Pants
Jack: I missed the Egyptian screening last summer. That was a dub. In April it will be a dub in LA. Where's the sub?

I was at the Egyptian for the screening and it was definitely a sub.

[Eric F]

For the English dub, is the same cast/crew used as for the DVD set? I wouldn't mind seeing it then. The DVD translation/actors is just about as good as any dub I've ever seen.

[Jackskeleton]

Same cast indeed.

[Eric F]

Is that a yes or a no?

[Franksta]

actually i heard a rumor that David Lucas, the voice for Spike, was not involved in the dubbing of the Movie and they got some Steve guy who sounds exactly like Lucas. personally i think it's all bull though.

[kian69]

Just hope it's good.

[LivingINClip]

I live in Kentucky, so there is no chance it will be in a theater near me. I will have to wait for the eventual DVD release. I just hope it is sometime in the naer future. I've been waiting for over a year now.
:(

[fnordboy]

Originally posted by Franksta
actually i heard a rumor that David Lucas, the voice for Spike, was not involved in the dubbing of the Movie and they got some Steve guy who sounds exactly like Lucas. personally i think it's all bull though.

It is the same guy.... different name

< cough >non SAG job< / cough >


very common with voice actors.

[Trigger]

I've had it on VCD since before the DVD box set was released... it's a decent movie, but not quite as good as the series. Sucks about the title "Knocking on Heaven's Door". I'm excited for a nice DVD release... I don't have much faith that it'll actually end up in a theater near me.

[WiccanPagan]

hmm, i haven't seen any definite word either way yes, but is the movie release pre-empting its release on an r1 dvd? if so, excellent. i'm not going to be able to catch it while it is here, most likely and would love to get it.

[Shemp]

Here's a link to a decent article from Animation World Network on the history of the series and the theatrical movie :

http://mag.awn.com/index.php3?ltype=pageone&article_no=1666


The article states that "the initial release, on April 4th, will be in seventeen major cities across the U.S. If the box office is favorable, this may be expanded."

[Tuan Jim]

What cheeses me off is that originally Chapel Hill, NC (my town) was listed as an opening city -- kinda surprising given how small we are. Now it's only the big cities that are listed on the site. Hopefully we'll still get it (we got Metropolis and SA on their original runs) but probably not this week.

[ChemDoc]

Now called only, "Cowboy Bebop - The Movie" it will be released in 16 cities and only 17 theatres (NY,NY gets two theatres) this Friday. 6 of the theatres are in CA. Portland OR doesn't get it until 4/18.

Surprisingly enough, one of the theatres that's getting it is in Royal Oak, MI (a small suburb of Detroit). It's only playing there for a week, so I gotta find some time. It's a 90 mile drive for me, but I am a big fan. It's the only theatre in MI that got the initial release of "Spirited Away".

I wonder if this one week limited release means it'll get wider release later? I mean, WTF, did they only make 16 copies of the movie???

And yes, it is the same cast as they orginial US dubs. I have no idea if it is going to be shown subbed instead anywhere.

-doc

FYI, website is www.cowboybebopthemovie.com

[harosa]

Theatre showings are dubbed, as evident by clips on the official website. The "R" rating is probably more for the whole similarity to events today, chemical terrorists and all, especially it taking place in a place that looks similar to NYC.

[trigun]

Didn't Princess Mononoke have an R rating?

The Bebop movie does have a couple graphic scenes in it.

[slop101]

A review:

Cowboy Bebop: The Movie
A good four-fifths of the fun of Shinichirô Watanabe's innovative Japanese-animation TV series Cowboy Bebop was derived from its style and attitude, from the over-the-top swaggering of its antiheroes to its flashy animation and genre-leaping, tone-setting music. Much of the rest of the series' allure came from its offbeat sense of humor, which occasionally eclipsed its commitment to plot or continuity. Many of the series' 26 episodes ended without resolution; they didn't always have satisfying stories, but they never let go of their dedication to chic mystique. Which is why the long-awaited cinematic spin-off's plodding allegiance to plot makes the film a bit unsatisfying. Cowboy Bebop: The Movie takes place before the end of the series, when casual bounty-hunting partners Spike Spiegel and Jet Black and their obnoxious hangers-on (bounty-hunting bitch-queen/gambling reprobate Faye Valentine and psychotic child-hacker Ed Wong) permanently parted ways. In the film, they're still working together, to the extent that they ever were; novice viewers can readily pick up the movie's plot threads, so long as they understand that even longtime fans don't necessarily understand the main characters' uncommunicative, uncooperative cooperation. The film opens as the protagonists' spaceship, the Bebop, arrives on Mars. There, Spike and Jet manage a small score by stopping a convenience-store robbery, but Faye misses her latest target when his truck explodes on a freeway off-ramp, releasing an unknown substance that kills hundreds. The Martian government responds by placing a huge bounty on anyone responsible. The Bebop's crewmembers all start following the money, in the process uncovering a complicated plot and a cold-hearted criminal whose actions seem to have more to do with maintaining a monstrous façade than forwarding any tangible agenda. But while he himself fits neatly into Cowboy Bebop's cult of personality, his cluttered backstory doesn't. Cowboy Bebop: The Movie spends far too much of its two-hour length laboriously chasing down plot threads, particularly given that they never cohere. A number of eye-popping setpieces--a pointless but pretty aerial duel, a series of stylish hand-to-hand battles--reconfirm the series' dedication to loose-limbed animation and seductive visual choreography. But Jet seems to be right when he suggests that the Bebop crew is delving into a planet-sized problem that's both too large for them and none of their business. By its end, the film has begun to feel like a standard cop movie with the Bebop characters awkwardly grafted into the key roles. The series' avant-garde flair is still evident in the movie's external touches, from its diverse soundtrack to its characters' flamboyant recklessness. But beneath all the style is a confused stab at substance. The ambition is laudable, but the execution is wanting, and the attempt itself may indicate that Watanabe and company have forgotten what made Cowboy Bebop so much fun. --Tasha Robinson

[RichC2]

Didn't Princess Mononoke have an R rating?

No, it was PG-13.

I've seen the Bebop movie multiple times. What it lacks in plot it makes up for in sheer entertaininment. Fans of the series may be a little disappointed that it's merely another standard episode (not one of the Arc'd Vicious/Julia ones), but overall - most people, including regular film goers, should be able to enjoy the hell out of it, it's a brisk moving movie and fun way to spend 2 hours.

On a side note, while an avid fan of Anime, I do feel most anime movies are sorely lacking in either plot or entertainment value, occasionally both. Bebop, while lacking a little in plot, definitly has the entertainment value.

And just because I'm bored..
Quick opinion of a few other anime flicks:
Escaflowne: B- or C+
Akira: B
Blood: first time - B+, there after: C
Princess Mononoke: B+
Spirited Away: A
Grave of the Fireflies: A-
Perfect Blue: C
Castle of Cagliostro: C
Spriggan: B+ (Yes, I thought it was entertaining)
Tenchi Forever: B-
Memories: I: B-, II: B, III: B
X: C- (I like the art, the movie is..boring to say the least.)
Cowboy Bebop: B+

[rkndkn]

Originally posted by Shemp


The article states that "the initial release, on April 4th, will be in seventeen major cities across the U.S. If the box office is favorable, this may be expanded."

Wow, this is the first time EVER that they have considered Honolulu a major city for a theatrical release -- we're getting it 4/4.

[Bill Chance]

It's showing at the Angelika in Dallas - a great place to see a film.

I'm taking my son to see it this weekend - he's excited. Will write a review afterward and post a link here.

Later
Bill Chance
The Daily Epiphany (http://www.dailyepiphany.net)

[harosa]

Dubs suck, but on a different note, the animators and director of the Bebop show and film have their ANIMATRIX short up now, very stylish and noirish, damn if it doesnt feel like an extension of the Bebop universe. The official website doesnt seem to have it up now but here'sa link to the story at AICN- http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=14883

[SiberianLlama]

Already got my tickets to the Loews in Times Square. 10:20pm can't come fast enough!

[trigun]

Originally posted by harosa
Dubs suck, but on a different note, the animators and director

Not to get into the pointless dubs vs. subs argument, but this show is considered by many to have the best dub cast of any anime show. Even some sub only fans agree that the dub cast is a better fit for this show. I think they're both great and certainly don't mind seeing this movie dubbed.

[slop101]

If you don't speak the language, don't you miss out on the same sort of things on a sub as you would a dub?

[WiccanPagan]

dammit yahoo isn't listing times/theaters for this. anyone know a place that is?

[DVDGirl]

I had no idea it was going to open here on opening day. Well, I think it's too late to get to the Varsity for the 10:00 showing (as it might be sold out), we'll definitely go tomorrow.

Any idea if they're showing a subbed version? When they had "Spirited Away" showing last year, it was subbed, while the other theaters on the island were dubbed.

-DVD Girl

[Otto]

I've got the subbed version on VCD somewhere, but I will definitely buy the dub on DVD. I would see it in theaters, but the closest one is a 6 hr, 3 state drive away. :(

The movie is good. I think it would be better dubbed, because I don't speak Japanese and I don't get as much of a feel for the "tone" of the characters when I can't understand what the hell they're saying. I have the DVD box set too, and I think the English dub is better, simply because I get more emotion from it, while the Japanese voices sound flat as a pancake to my non-Japanese ear.

[hotaru_san]

Guess just from being an anime fan for some time I get a "feel" for what emotion is being protrayed with the original language even if I don't speak it, and I will say that that I perfer the Sub version of this series but I will agree, the Dub is not bad at all and unlike many other anime series, I can enjoy the series dubbed in english simply because of the very talented voice acting.

Now you want to talk about bad dub's.... Love hina is one I would point out first. ;)

[Giles]

question: the animation during the opening credit scene looks rotoscoped - is it?

[bv3]

I just got back from seeing this at the Nuart in West L.A. and it was fantastic. The dub was every bit as great as the one for the series. The presentation was awesome and it was a real treat to finally see this on the big screen.

[slop101]

BTW, if anyone is wondering what song it is that closes the film during the credits - I don't know the title, but it's by Carleen Anderson w/ Paul Weller (from The Jam) on guitar. She's got two solo albums she recorded with Paul Weller that simply rock - it's just great soul music that you rarely hear anymore. But you can only get it on import - check amazon.co.uk.

[rkndkn]

Originally posted by DVDGirl
I had no idea it was going to open here on opening day. Well, I think it's too late to get to the Varsity for the 10:00 showing (as it might be sold out), we'll definitely go tomorrow.

Any idea if they're showing a subbed version? When they had "Spirited Away" showing last year, it was subbed, while the other theaters on the island were dubbed.

-DVD Girl

Hope you got to see it, DVDGirl! :) I snuck away early from work on Friday to avoid the crowds!

I made the MAJOR mistake during "Spirited Away" of seeing the film at Ward Theatre, which was the dubbed version. I would have much preferred the subbed version that was at Varsity, but stupid me thought the whole island had the same version!

I'm under the impression this film only has the dubbed version playing in the U.S. In any case, I thought it was good voice acting. I haven't yet seen the series on DVD (though it's in my to-watch pile!), but I will definitely check out the Japanese track there for comparison.

[Rypro 525]

when does the movie take place between the show?

[BigPete]

Near the end.

[Jackskeleton]

around episode 22 or so. right before Ed leaves

[LivingINClip]

I'm happy to say that the movie actually did come to a city near me, two weeks ago. It was the subbed version and a damn good movie to boot. I'll be more than happy to pick up the DVD this comin' Tuesday.

[slop101]

Originally posted by Rypro 525
when does the movie take place between the show?

Right in between dvd sessions 5 & 6.

[Rypro 525]

Originally posted by slop101
Right in between dvd sessions 5 & 6. Also, since I am still in the middle of the series (just about to start session 5) should I go on since I know the ending of the show (imdb crazy credits), or should I watch the movie and then disc 6?

[slop101]

Originally posted by Rypro 525
Also, since I am still in the middle of the series (just about to start session 5) should I go on since I know the ending of the show (imdb crazy credits), or should I watch the movie and then disc 6?

Do whatever you feel like, as one does not spoil the other.

[joeydaninja]

Thread Resurrection

I just saw it today, damn it was good :)

[troystiffler]

It's always refreshing to sit down and watch a good slice of exciting anime. It really reminds me how much American action films have gone downhill. Every shot has it's own jazzy composition. It's exciting - it's fun - it moves to the beat of the music.