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Old 01-04-03, 11:39 PM
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Odyssey 5 Appears Cancelled

On December 2, this appeared on rec.arts.sf.TV and is claimed to be from an unnamed show staffer.

Alas, Showtime canceled Odyssey this week, despite our being their highest-rated original series! Apparently the powers that be want to get out of doing SF (they picked up Jeremiah, as I understand it, because it's part of a long-standing deal with MGM).
Then this from Yahoo!

By John Dempsey and Melissa Grego

NEW YORK (Variety) - Showtime plans to ramp up the number of series it commissions, forging into new areas like reality and animation while slashing the number of original movies annually to 14 from 23.

The money Showtime saves by doing fewer movies will be more than offset by the push toward more series: The pay-TV network's programming budget will soar above $425 million in calendar 2003, a jump of more than 5% over that of last year.

Sony Pictures TV, producer of the two existing series on the bubble the past few weeks, "Street Time" and "Odyssey 5," got a renewal for "Street Time," starring Rob Morrow (news) and Scott Cohen (news). Sony and Showtime are negotiating over the exact number of new episodes.

Things are not looking as good for "Odyssey 5," which probably won't make it to a second season because Showtime is reconfiguring its Friday lineup to make room for only one sci-fi series, MGM TV's "Jeremiah," which the network has renewed, with Sean Astin (news) added to the cast.


Showtime president of production Jerry Offsay said he's ready to greenlight production of six pilots that could go to series in the next year:

= "The Game," from Spike Lee (news)'s 40 Acres & a Mule company, deals starkly with the tension among San Francisco street gangs led by whites, blacks, Latinos and Chinese.

= "Huff" skewers upper-class, suburban life by focusing on a psychiatrist facing a midlife crisis.

= "Lifestyles" concerns a couple who relocate from Silicon Valley to "wild, eccentric" Orange County, where they run a microchip company.

= "Clive Barker (news)'s Lord of Illusions," a sci-fi horror series, is loosely based on the theatrical movie about a private investigator whose expertise is the supernatural. This pilot is tentative because the budget could be prohibitive.

= "Paradise," a sprawling "Dallas"-like soap opera is set in the world of wealthy televangelists (Offsay mentions Billy Graham and Jerry Falwell as models).

= "Going to College," from documentary veteran R.O. Cutler, is a mix of documentary footage and scripted dialogue that follows a group of real-life freshmen at the University of Texas at Austin.

Showtime will continue to schedule at least one original series in primetime each night, but its series-expansion plans will stretch into latenight on the weekends.

The first of the latenight shows is "Penn & Teller: Bull," a half-hour magazine series that premieres next month. Magicians Penn & Teller will expose what they consider fraud in all areas of American life, from TV hosts who claim they talk to the dead to scientists who believe in alien abduction. Showtime has committed to 13 episodes of the show.

Showtime's second latenight show is "Family Business," which follows, "Osbournes"-style, a young man who just happens to produce and direct porno films with a company that's run by his mother, with his cousin doing the distribution. The commitment to "Family Business" is 10 half-hours, for premiere in the spring.

Two other latenight entries are the Jamie Foxx (news)-hosted "Laffapalooza" (10 half-hour comedy shows scheduled for spring), featuring at least two comics a week doing standup, and "My First Time," 26 reality half-hours in which women, interviewed on camera, will describe their first sexual experience. The women will then watch as actors re-create the steamy scene.

Showtime has decided to pull back on the number of original movies because foreign sources of production money have begun to dry up, Offsay said.

Until the past year or two, Showtime had to put up only about a third of the production budget of a typical movie because the supplier could harvest the rest of the cost from media companies in Canada, Europe and other international territories.

With the decline of these international dollars, Showtime's percentage has jumped to more than half of the budget of these movies, just as the cost of the pictures is rising precipitously. Offsay said a high-end movie for Showtime that cost $4 million two years ago now can't be made for less than $6 million.

But Offsay also said Showtime's marketing and sales departments had a hard time engineering the promotional support for such a huge volume of unknown movies. "By scheduling fewer movies," he said, "I'm giving the staff more time to promote each of them."

The cost of series episodes is rising just as fast as that of TV movies, Offsay said. The series range now is $1.25 million-$1.6 million per episode compared to $1 million-$1.4 million two years ago.

Previously announced Showtime series new to the schedule next year include "Dead Like Me," starring Ellen Muth and Mandy Patinkin (news), and "Out of Order," starring Eric Stoltz (news) and Felicity Huffman.
There are still 6 filmed episodes that haven't aired. In a sickening twist of fate, Sony/Columbia is said to have approached The Taken Network to pick up the show.

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Well you can put blame on 2 major factors.

1. Star Trek Universe is crumbling.
If that can not make a profit...
Then what can thinking becomes a major factor.
I truthfully blame Voyager & now Enterprise for this mess.
This debacle goes straight on Braga & company.

2. Cable networks trying to turn a profit, without
any consideration to content of programming.

Seriously. Sci-fi as we know it, is going into hibernation.
Maybe its a good thing it does. So many interesting series
are handcuffed of late. Its either they can not find a market
or cost too much. It really gets hard to support a good series
and watch it just disappear.

I have noticed that quality of sci-fi movie making is
rather confined/dull. Looks like that same thinking is
now entering tv land.
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Is it worth watching original cable series unless they are on HBO? Most if not all non-hbo cable shows get cancelled before their time. Is it really worth getting emotionally invested in a series when you know 9 times out of 10 there won't even be a decent conclusion episode?
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WTF?! Why would you cancel your highest rated show? Its really not a FX intensive show so its not like the production costs could be an issue. I cant figure out which news is worse that Odyssey 5 is getting canned or that Sean Astin is joining Jeremiah.
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• Quoth Thrush •<HR SIZE=1>WTF?! Why would you cancel your highest rated show?<HR SIZE=1>


Ask Bonnie Hammer. She's the expert when it comes to cancelling your highest rated show.

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I used to like the days when I could tune to HBO and Showtime any hour of the day and catch a movie.....
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Re: Odyssey 5 Appears Cancelled

Originally posted by das Monkey

There are still 6 filmed episodes that haven't aired.
It looks like episodes 15 and 16 will air on Jan. 24. and Jan. 31 according to the shows web site.
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Re: Re: Odyssey 5 Appears Cancelled

• Quoth ten41 •<HR SIZE=1>It looks like episodes 15 and 16 will air on Jan. 24. and Jan. 31 according to the shows web site. <HR SIZE=1>


Thanks. www.sho.com was down last night when I made this post.

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Are you sure there are six more episodes? On the web site it looks like there are only four unfilled spaces left. Maybe the other two were or are in an unfinished state. If that's true hopefully we will see those as well.
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• Quoth ten41 •<HR SIZE=1>Are you sure there are six more episodes? On the web site it looks like there are only four unfilled spaces left. Maybe the other two were or are in an unfinished state. If that's true hopefully we will see those as well. <HR SIZE=1>


Pretty sure. Like Jeremiah, Showtime gave them a contract for 20 hours. Only 14 have been shown on television. Checking epguides, the last 6 episodes have names and production numbers. I can only assume they filmed the last 4 when they filmed 15 and 16. Since production for the season shut down over 6 months ago, it wouldn't make much sense for them to leave 4 episodes unshot. I'm just speculating though ... I have no hard knowledge of 6 episodes being in the can.

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I love Odyssey 5. Not entirely sure why, but I do.

No mention of The Chris Isaak Show, eh? Guess it's done. That'll be on my DVD wishlist.
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The entire Cable Network industry is insane. Insane. It's no longer important how hany people watch a show, it's how much money you can make per episode. Going by the current mindset, it's better to spend $300,000 on a piece of crap and have a .3 rating, than it is to spend $1 mil on quality and have a 2.0 rating. The hundreds of 'reality' shows prove this point. For every good one, like The Amazing Race, you have 15 awful ones. And the reality shows are even scripted now! (ex. 'Going to College')

And do I really need 13 weeks of behind the scenes at Cirque du Soliel or 10 weeks of watching a kid direct a porno while his mom complains about the rising cost of dildos? Things that we once 1 hour specials (or even better, 15 minute 'segments' ) are now being stretched into 10 hours or more.

The list of shows that are worth watching keeps getting smaller and smaller as networks get cheaper and cheaper. When did being #1 stop being good enough? What is a fan supposed to do? It's not enough to simply watch a show to boost ratings, now we have to send the network a check, too?(on top of what we already send as a cable bill).

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I give up. I just can't start new shows anymore, because the disappointment when they get canceled for absolutely no good reason just makes me too angry. I love Farscape, and I really like Odyssey 5. In fact, I like Odyssey 5 more than Jeremiah, which is better than most shows on tv these days but not as interesting as O5 imo. This mentality of canceling shows that are doing well because of some misconceived notion that if we "mix it up" and add more reality tv because "that's what the public wants" that they will make more money is just WRONG. They've lost a customer. I liked Jeremiah, but don't have the discretionary money for it right now, and since there won't be more O5, I see no reason to get Showtime at all. They've lost a customer by making these changes. I'll have to hope someone can tape the last O5 eps for me so I can see them. What a depressing start to the new year.
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Episodes 15 and 16 don't appear on the site anymore. I hope they still plan on playing them.
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Originally posted by ten41
Episodes 15 and 16 don't appear on the site anymore. I hope they still plan on playing them.
When I get back into the office on Monday, I'll check out what was completed for you folks.
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I never had an opportunity to see O5, because I never knew about it. I love Jeremiah and am glad it got renewed. I'm bummed about Farscape, but so very pissed about Firefly.

As for reality TV (or unreality Tv as I like to call it), I consider that to be the equivalent of the Roman Colosseum. But I find it hard to believe that the government is behind Reality TV. Heh, but it is about their mentality.

Well, that means less time watching TV that sucks and more time watching DVD's that don't.

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