1st thread (http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=243648)

This is hilarious that the thread got up to 10 pages.
I'm immature, act like a teenager, have no priorities just because I will be 25 when I finally leave home?? You guys don't even know me :rolleyes:

I'm actually getting a kick out of some of you seem to be mad about my situation.

Yes, I would take my own place any day over bunking with my brother. BUT, the situation is not right and I am not ready (financially) to move out.

What's wrong with that? I just started a good job 2 months ago, so why should I be in such a hurry to be out on my own?

--I don't have much $$ saved
--My g/f is away in school until next april
--My probation at the job is not up for another 9 months
--I don't have any kind of restrictions living at home

Maybe I'm not your typical person. Most do seem to move out at 18 or so. 6 years later and I'm still at home. So???? Yeah, if I would of started this job at 18 I'm sure I would of been out on my own by 20.

Any other gripes about my situation?

1st thread (http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=243648)

Well, first I don't remember you saying that you started the job 2 months ago. Second, you said you're saving over $1k per month, but it seem like this have only started for 1-2 months. From the sound of it, your assumption that at this rate, you can get the hybrid engine and then later the house. What kind of job where you have to have a 11-12 months probation?

We never said you don't have your priorities straight because you'll be 25 when you leave home. We said you don't have your priorities straight because you want a car before paying your parents and getting a place yet say you have no money (that right there is a lie).

:rolleyes: indeed.

Having read through (and laughed heartily) at the first thread, there seems to be one big point that you are missing. You were not called all those things due to what you posted above. You were called such things because:

You are 25, living at home. Your parents want you to start paying rent. You are trying to come up with reasons not to. You claim to be about to purchase a new car. These two things in and of themselves are reason enough to show that your priorities are out of whack. If you would pay your rent to your parents with no squabbling, half of what was said probably wouldn't have been. The buying a new car would then have been irrelevant, but you are trying to say you shouldn't pay any rent, and your parents shouldn't care that you are buying a new car. You went on about having all this new money available (through your job?), but still complained about having to pay rent at 25. At least that's what I think people were trying to say.

Originally posted by zuffy
Well, first I don't remember you saying that you started the job 2 months ago. Second, you said you're saving over $1k per month, but it seem like this have only started for 1-2 months. From the sound of it, your assumption that at this rate, you can get the hybrid engine and then later the house. What kind of job where you have to have a 11-12 months probation?

Probation is a year and I know I said I just started my job not to long ago. I work for TSA.

Exactly! Get my Hybrid and then the house. ...and when I go to buy my house sell my LX for whatever 6-8k which is $$ for the house :)

I DID SAY: that you guys have made me realize I should pay monthly rent at my parents house.

I KNOW I said that in the first thread and gave you all credit for that.

So what I want a different / another car?? I'll sell the LX when I go to buy the house anyhow. If I don't get the car, I'm still not moving out until next year. What's the problem there???

Originally posted by LX98Civic
So what I want a different / another car?? I'll sell the LX when I go to buy the house anyhow. If I don't get the car, I'm still not moving out until next year. What's the problem there???

Nothing, as long as you realize that you do not have any grounds to complain about ANY problems that may occur from living at home which include, but are not limited to, rent, utilities, cable, sharing a room with your brother, parents getting on your case for anything, having to follow house rules, etc, etc.

The reasoning for your not having grounds to complain? You claim to have the resources to move out any time you want. Weather or not you choose to or plan to in the future is irrelevant. It is your choice to stay there right now, so don't come crying to this forum for "support" in not wanting to pay rent etc (which you say you've changed your mind on).

Even if you prioritized for the car first, I think your chump $100 rent is an insult to your parents. Did you asked them how much they really want instead of your cheap offer?

I have not read the last thread, but I just want to throw in my 2 cents, however worthless they are. There is no way in hell I am every moving back in with my parents, no matter how tight my income is, no matter how bad my situation. I will work at McDonalds, live in the crappiest part of town, just to not move back in with them. I will go out of my way to stay as far away from their house as possible. Don't get me wrong, my parents are great people, I just don't want to get stuck at home. As long as I never go back, there is no way I can get trapped.

I hadn't partaken in the first thread, but my esteemed colleague Ron Bacardi has advised me to comment now.

It is a distortion of the facts to say that everyone critiized you for "living at home" until you were 25. (I've never liked that saying - I've always lived at home. My home since I turned 18, my parents' home, prior. But it's always been home. I've never been out on the street). Most objected to your complaints that you we're receiving "fair treatment" with your younger brother, and scoffed at your pittance offer of $100 a month rent.

Anyway...Maybe an appropriate way to restore your good name in the Otter community would be to offer your brother "rent-free" living in your new place, once purchased, for 25 years of his life? :D

DISCLAIMER: I fully realize that one's responsibility to their children would far outweight any commitment to siblings, and the previous sentence should be taken mostly in jest.

cars go down in value so wait to buy it after getting the house.

By then you will either get the same car for less or get a newer car for close to the same price.

I did think and still do that you should pay money to your parents.

I did think and still do that you are not being smart buying a car right now when you could lose your job at any time causing you to have a car payment and be out of work.


Not the best idea IMO.

Originally posted by emanon


Anyway...Maybe an appropriate way to restore your good name in the Otter community would be to offer your brother "rent-free" living in your new place, once purchased, for 25 years of his life? :D



No way in HELL!!!!!!

$100 a month may not sound like much, but it will cover one of the smaller utilities. As said before, they make good $$ and understand that I am trying to save for a house and yes they know I am buying a h/b. I was talking to my mom about the house and she was like, "I'll start looking / buying small things for your house now for when you move in".

I love my parents with all my heart and VERY thankful for the 24 years I have lived with them!!!

Did you live at your parents place when you were married? I was thinking you were just moving back there after moving to Florida didn't work out for you, I assumed before you went to FL you were living somewhere else but now it seems like it was at parents place?

If I had to share a bunk be with y brother at 24 I wouldn't want to pay more than $100 A MONTH EITHER...




Shadow

Correct me if Im wrong but dont you have a kid? I think I remember you mentioning child support in the past. Am I thinking of someone else?

Originally posted by LX98Civic
No way in HELL!!!!!!

$100 a month may not sound like much, but it will cover one of the smaller utilities. As said before, they make good $$ and understand that I am trying to save for a house and yes they know I am buying a h/b. I was talking to my mom about the house and she was like, "I'll start looking / buying small things for your house now for when you move in".

I love my parents with all my heart and VERY thankful for the 24 years I have lived with them!!! If you're taking in $1K after tax a month I'd demand at least 300 bucks from you were I a parent. You're getting a cushy deal for $100.

I understand you place lx98civic, I live at home and am 21 years old. and have the same love for imports as you do, some people get it some don't, but what people don't realize people like us love cars, when I had my 96 accord that I spent about 25grand modifiying it was great, it is more addiciting than any drug could every be. I think you should sell the lx now and buy a h/b then when you have the money hor the engine(during installation) have your brother drive you to work.

I wouldn't pay more than $100 a month to share a room either

I'm still confused as to why you need TWO cars instead of just one (LX or Hybrid).

Originally posted by Corky Roxbury
I think you should sell the lx now and buy a h/b then when you have the money hor the engine(during installation) have your brother drive you to work.

I wouldn't pay more than $100 a month to share a room either

You're kidding, right?

Originally posted by criptik28
I'm still confused as to why you need TWO cars instead of just one (LX or Hybrid).

I beleive he's buying an old Civic and will slap on a Integra engine in it, thus the hybrid. Once he have his hybrid, he will sell his current car, the Civic LX.

Originally posted by criptik28
You're kidding, right? Yeah, the food, water, electricity, cable, Internet connection, etc. . . is not worth anything. -rolleyes-

Moreover you can find deals like this for less than 100 bucks, all over the place.

Originally posted by Bushdog
Yeah, the food, water, electricity, cable, Internet connection, etc. . . is not worth anything. -rolleyes-

Moreover you can find deals like this for less than 100 bucks, all over the place.

Yep most Crack houses are way less than $100 a month and you do not have to deal with those meddlesome parents ;)

More power to you if you are happy. From what you describe (and how you describe it) I wouldn't trade places with you for a million dollars (literally).

I love my parents and see them nearly every day, but I still think it is time for you to cut the cord and enter the world of adulthood.

NTS: move out of the house before i'm 24. ;)

Originally posted by zuffy
I beleive he's buying an old Civic and will slap on a Integra engine in it, thus the hybrid. Once he have his hybrid, he will sell his current car, the Civic LX.

No, I know that's the plan...I'm just wondering why LX is going to hang onto his old car until he buys the house.

Originally posted by D.Placebo
NTS: move out of the house before i'm 24. ;)

That, or just don't let the Otter Farm know. ;)

I didn't wanna say anything cause I'ma car junkie too but dude you sleep in a bunk bed w/your brother. Not cool homey get a place first and then a car if your going to be making as much money as you seem to think you are, you'll get a new ride in no time. True no one here really "knows" you but from what I've been reading you're trying to have the luxuries of an adult (car, own money, sex, ect) but you are trying to avoid all the important responsiblities (rent/mortgage, bills)

I understand the sacrifices that comes with moding cars but you should never sacrifice your dignity. And bribing little brother to leave the room for an hour or two so you and you girlfriend can make out on the top bunk undisturbed= No Dignity

Originally posted by tsohg
True no one here really "knows" you but from what I've been reading you're trying to have the luxuries of an adult (car, own money, sex, ect) but you are trying to avoid all the important responsiblities (rent/mortgage, bills)

I understand the sacrifices that comes with moding cars but you should never sacrifice your dignity. And bribing little brother to leave the room for an hour or two so you and you girlfriend can make out on the top bunk undisturbed= No Dignity

tsohg, that's what we've all been trying to say (I think), but I think the point you make about dignity is better made than I've seen in this and the previous thread.

Civic, it's not the "living at home" part, it's the attitude about the rent. You've never answered the questions about how much your parents asked you to pay. Since your parents were the ones who brought up the issue of rent, I think most of us feel that your attitude is disrespectful toward them.

And you never responded when I suggested that the child support might affect your ability to get a mortgage. Since I didn't specifically ask, I'll ask now. When you were first approved, did that include your ex-wife's income, and were you paying child support at the time?

Also, just for the record, do you buy your own food, do your own laundry, and have any significant chores around the house (picking up after yourself does not count as "significant")?

Originally posted by criptik28
That, or just don't let the Otter Farm know. ;)

yeah, like that's ever gonna happen :rolleyes: :p

Sorry, but this thread just isn't as entertaining as part 1. Although the summary of part 1 in the first is pretty hilarious as it doesn't even come close to matching the actual content.

The thread is not as entertaining because after 10 pages of advice people are spent. Then he has the gall (or the desire to subject himself to more ridicule) to open a new one and flaunt it in our faces. Its called spinning your wheels, and I'm not going to put any more time into this one.

At the end of the day he is a legal adult and if he wants to insult his family, and himself then so be it.

-g

I read about five pages of the first thread.

What surprised me is your age. From your posts before now, I had assumed that you were about 17. You have the sort of attitudes that one would expect from a high school senior -- prioritizing your car, cheerful acceptance of Taco Bell food bought by your parents, sibling rivalry with your younger brother, irritation at being asked to contribute to the household. It's all to be expected from a young man in his late teens.

But when you said you are almost 25, the picture changed. You aren't acting in a way that's expected from a grown man. It startles people.

It would be like a 17-year-old who still expects to get milk and cookies after work, and gets tucked in every night by Mommy. Or who likes playing mean tricks on girls. Or who skips work to play Pokemon. If a fully capable person isn't acting his age, it's disturbing.

Grudgingly conceding that you will be giving your parents three days' pay every month in exchange for full room and board doesn't elevate you in people's eyes.

As an adult although not a parent, I would support my child especially if he/she was serious about saving money for a downpayment.

It is the hardest thing to do w/regard to buying a place, so I would allow my child to live rent free, either that or I would be giving them the downpayment to buy a place.

Owning a property is serious bidness, and I have a lot of respect for those who are trying to do it, especially solo. I am lucky in that the mrs and i both earn decent money enough to own a place in sf, and we owned way before everyone I work with as far as age goes.

So I say explain to the folks that the money is not being squandered, I don't think having a car is squandering cash, esp here in the usa, where it seems to this auslander that most parents give the wee ones an Escalade for graduating high school.

Originally posted by D.Placebo
yeah, like that's ever gonna happen :rolleyes: :p

You never know, maybe in the next few months you'll get a busy 100-hour week job and make six figures and have no more time for the rest of us. :)

Originally posted by Corky Roxbury
I understand you place lx98civic, I live at home and am 21 years old. and have the same love for imports as you do, some people get it some don't, but what people don't realize people like us love cars, when I had my 96 accord that I spent about 25grand modifiying it was great, it is more addiciting than any drug could every be. I think you should sell the lx now and buy a h/b then when you have the money hor the engine(during installation) have your brother drive you to work.

I wouldn't pay more than $100 a month to share a room either

Someone who can relate :)

It's kind of like how a lot of you worship dvds, well I'm that way with imports.

I am keeping the LX (or wanting to) because of my drive to work each day. It's 23 miles one way X 10 = lots of miles a week. That is not something I want to do to my Hybrid day in and out. But, the area I am looking to move to is about 5-7 miles from the airport which would not be a problem. Not that the Hybrid could not handle the longer drives, just not they way I want to put miles on a $3,500 engine. I'll probably still get some kind of small pick-up once I get established in the house for duties around the house and to drive to work. The Hybrid will be a weekend cruiser type vehicle (so I plan)......

For you saying I should pay more than $100 a month, I would if I had my own room. I talked with my older brother (the one I lived with in FL) and he was saying he paid $100 p/mth back in the day when he was out of school and living at home. He says that is fair.

This thread was not meant to be funny or entertaining. Geeeze this is my life we're talking about.........

.........which seems to be better off than a lot of other adults out there.

You didnt answer my question. Do you have a kid?

Originally posted by LX98Civic
Someone who can relate :)

It's kind of like how a lot of you worship dvds, well I'm that way with imports.
Actually the only thing I worship is the Lord. IMHO, your decision to do the bunkbed thing (at right around my age!) so you can have a car is rather pathetic. Again, not saying you are pathetic, but the decision is.

For you saying I should pay more than $100 a month, I would if I had my own room. I talked with my older brother (the one I lived with in FL) and he was saying he paid $100 p/mth back in the day when he was out of school and living at home. He says that is fair.
Well, that question all depends on your parents. Firstly, if it was really back in the day, inflation kicks in (and you should pay more). Second, he was in school. I'd cut my kids a break who were not working full time. That's just me. But in the end, whatever you work out with your parents is between you and them. Just don't expect a lot of people to agree with you complaining about paying this rent.

This thread was not meant to be funny or entertaining. Geeeze this is my life we're talking about.........

.........which seems to be better off than a lot of other adults out there. Really, by what criterion? Most of the people here do pretty well. I'm just 2 (2.5?) years older than you and I'm pretty sure I outearn you (based on your 1K savings) by about 4-6 times. I live in New York City and enjoy a pretty cool life. I have a beautiful and smart girlfriend who outearns me. I'm well educated, I go to pretty much any sporting event whenever I want, etc. . .

And you know what? It would take about 2 minutes to find someone who is better off than I am. Try to realize you're most likely a big shot only in your own mind. It is a pretty straightforward psychological defense to convince yourself that a crappy situation is better than most other people's. Given what I think I know about the vast majority of people here (demographically speaking) you don't fall too high in the quality of life scale. Remember, everyone here isn't GuessWho or Dr. DVD. It is fine if you feel better than them (their stories encourage such feelings) but for your own good realize most of the people who share life stories here are either having a serious problem or are just in a rut. They do not represent everyone else.

LX98Civic, I'm not saying I don't understand your love of cars -- even riced-out imports. While I'm not a real import fan, I do love cars, and I'd dare say, more than you do. I'm the kind of guy who likes cars he would never buy, or can find a nice line somewhere on the body of a car. I notice sublte things, like the unique shape of a door handle on a '95 Miata. Sadly enough, about the only thing I love more than cars is women, and some days I just might rate them higher. My wife is the same way.

We currently drive two nice cars, but they are mostly stock, and they aren't as nice as we'd like. If it wasn't for our house payment, we could sell both and park a Viper and a Z06 in the driveway. I'm also quite sure that her parents would be more than happy to have us move in with them. And yet, I'm not even remotely tempted.

When you say you love cars, I sympathize. In every way possible. However, I cannot understand living in a way you find abhorant, and you are easily able to change, for the sake of owning one car -- whatever that car might be.

Maybe your parents only want $100 a month. Fine. However, from reading the thread before this, it starts off with you saying I don't want to pay a dime, and someone says that you should pay at least $100, to which you reply that you wouldn't pay more than $100 for the space you live in. Sometime after that, you decide that $100 is fair.

Let me tell you something, you don't get to dictate the terms of your living there. Unless you own the place, there's no real negotiations. You've said you'll accept paying $100. If they want $200, your only choice is to go find another spot to live. Trust me, even $200 doesn't cover the cost of you living in the house -- or at least your fair share.

Nick Danger seems to have pegged things fairly well. Your attitudes are not the kind of attitudes of someone who is serious about growing up, buying a house, or moving out. Your parents probably suspect the same thing. You're 25, and you've lived there for 24 years? And that included the time you were married? And had a kid? And the year you were gone, you didn't live on your own, you lived with your brother? Have you ever paid rent? Had real bills to pay? Credit cards don't count, you don't have to do without water or electricity because you didn't pay the credit card bill.

Christ. You are so not ready to buy a house, it's not even funny. And, I don't just mean finanically, I mean you don't have the maturity or experience to own a house -- and the way you're going, you won't be there in a year either. Best of luck, man.

jolt: Yes, he has a 5 year old daughter. Read the thread fool! :p

Anyway, I read through the entire first thread and am amazed at the rent prices that some of you have stated. I clearly need to get out of Silicon Valley. Fast.

$80k here is a freakin' down payment on a house and was about my annual salary before I lost my job. I can't even imagine buying a house for only $80k.

Anyway, I don't even know why you started this 2nd thread if you're rolling your eyes at people for "not knowing you". Why go through the hassle? It's clear what everybody thinks about you and your situation. No sense in creating another thread just to hear the same replies go in one ear and out the other.

$100 may or may not be a lot of money to you in your situation. It's all relative. If you live in New York (yes, I know you're in Georgia or somewhere thereabouts), $100 is nothing and you should be ashamed of yourself. However, I realize the part of the country where you live is not the same and salaries are adjusted accordingly. I think I read that you would pay around $750 if you rented an apartment? If that's the case, I think you are extremely selfish in only offering to pay $100 to your parents. More so since you are planning on getting another car to modify.

It's admirable that you are saving up to buy your own home, but the means to your end is quite selfish, IMHO.

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wait... to recap... you have very little monthly expenses (parents pay for food, housing, and utilities and your girlfriend is far away) and you're pullig in $1,000 / month. So that means your making about $1250 pre-tax. So lets say $1,750 pre-tax at The Sports Authority if you spent $500 / month on entertainment. You expect to buy a new car and a house with that? You wouldn't come close.

So my question is: if you're so intent on saving money, why are you only saving $1,000 / month?

Why in God's name is this thread so long??? Well of course I'm a hypocrite because I'm posting in it, thereby lengthening it further. I lived at home until I turned 23, so I can relate a bit. My Father always half jokingly wanted me to pay rent, but since I worked my way through College, it was my point that when I finally got a real job, I would move out of the house, and when I got my first "real job" I moved out about 2 months after starting it. Been on my own ever since. My philosophy was if you're trying to teach me a lesson about responsibility, I might as well get out and do it for real. Rent to live with one's parents is not worth it, if you can actually afford it on your own.

This being said, it appears that you make enough money to get out on your own. Outright buying a house at the age of 25 is a luxury as far as I'm concerned, as is a new car. You should either get a place to rent that you afford, or suck it up and pay the damn stipend to your parents to shut them up. You can't have your cake and eat it to. Roof over your head = necessity, new house and new car = luxury. You don't have the moral high ground to argue for no rent, other than the fact that your parents love you and might cave if you're spoiled enough. :D

Originally posted by VinVega
[B]Why in God's name is this thread so long???

did you see the first thread?

I just wonder if the perceived importance of having a "faster car" would be lessened if one was not compensating for being 25, living with one's parents, sharing a room with your brother, and having to bang your girlfriend on a bunkbed.

Like eintier, I am a real car nut. It's not like I don't understand the car thing. I also have a grasp for the import car scene. Still, there is a time for it and a time to suck it up and understand you can do it later. In fact, you may find that some delayed gratification may mean that you will be able to do much better in a few years in regards to cars, if you take care of business now.

As I posted in the earlier thread, I got rid of my modded muscle cars in order to save money. It was not easy. I lusted after those cars. But dude, to have a nice ride, only to take your girl back home to the bunkbed.... man... to each his own, but I could not do that.

Not really related, but amusing:
http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~attse/honduh.htm

Originally posted by LX98Civic

This thread was not meant to be funny or entertaining. Geeeze this is my life we're talking about.........

.........which seems to be better off than a lot of other adults out there.

:lol:

Yeah, I'm jealous. You are so much better off then me.

:lol:

Each one of your posts is more pathetic then the last. It's like you are drowning and the only thing you can think to ask for is a glass of water.

Man, you have no idea. None.

I can't wait till you move out (if it ever happens). I can't wait for the threads then...

"My electricity is wired wrong and it keeps sparking. Should I pay an electrician to check it out or do another mod on my hybrid?"

"My pipes have burst. Should I fix it or get new wheels for my ride?"

"My house needs a new roof. Should I get it replaced or get pretty neon lites for the studmobile?"

:lol:

[mod speak]

Let's be careful about attacking civic. He has the right to his point of view here. However, I am noting that the first thread received a lot of replies. There is no mystery about how people feel. And that thread was closed. Civic chose to open a new thread and even link back to that thread.

So, I am assuming the attention and replies have some positive benefit.

Originally posted by RandyC
Not really related, but amusing:
http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~attse/honduh.htm

I think thats the first time I've liked the car after the mods.

It stinks like Shaggy in here.

If Civic was my kid I'd ask for $300-400 a month, then when he's ready to make the downpayment on the house, I'd give most of it back to him. I'd want my kid to learn responsibility by paying almost as much rent as an apartment goes for, but if I'm doing well off I wouldn't want to take his money, so I'd just put it in a savings account.

Like most of the people here, I don't agreee with the way you're handling things, LX98, but I wish you the best of luck.

Originally posted by zuffy
I beleive he's buying an old Civic and will slap on a Integra engine in it, thus the hybrid. Once he have his hybrid, he will sell his current car, the Civic LX.

why not just drive an integra w/ integra engine?

this is not a diss, i just don't understand.

Originally posted by hypeiv
why not just drive an integra w/ integra engine?

this is not a diss, i just don't understand.

cause thats not rice enough.

Originally posted by LX98Civic
This thread was not meant to be funny or entertaining. Geeeze this is my life we're talking about.........

.........which seems to be better off than a lot of other adults out there.
Dude, I realize its kinda mean how people are having a laugh at your life, and that's why I have been staying out of it.

If you enjoy the way your life is right now, then more power to you.. but thats your cup of tea.

Just remember, that your 24, sleep on a bunkbed with your little bro, take your gf to said bunkbed, your a father, and your complaining about paying more than a 100 bucks a month for rent. This isn't even taking the whole car thing into account.. I think the reason most people here are making fun of you is because you have a good opportunity to grow up significantly by putting your priorities in order, getting the house, and move on with your own life... but your choosing a car instead. just remember a house is a life-time investment which value will be yours forever, while a car is only good for 5-10 years usually. Then that 5-20k that your putting into it is pretty much spent and you don't have much to show for it..

now if only I would listen to my own words... damn. I am nowhere close to buying a house for reasons I_Z pointed out...

Again

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LX: I'm very confused

This new car you want to buy and slap a new engine in it, but you don't want to drive tow ork with the engine?

What's the point of buying the engine if you cant' actually go disttances with it?

Originally posted by Breakfast with Girls
Again

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That's pretty much the size of it

Originally posted by LX98Civic
This is hilarious that the thread got up to 10 pages.

In a way, yes it is!

I'm immature, act like a teenager, have no priorities just because I will be 25 when I finally leave home?? You guys don't even know me :rolleyes:

:lol: This is sig material, you know!

[....] the situation is not right and I am not ready (financially) to move out.

Procrastination is the thief of time.

[....] so why should I be in such a hurry to be out on my own?

Pride?

--I don't have much $$ saved

You suggest that your <i>spending</i> is fairly high, though....

--I don't have any kind of restrictions living at home

Hello!? I thought that was why you started the first thread. The <i>owners</i> of the house, your parents, did seek to restrict you <i>by getting you to pay your way</i>.

Maybe I'm not your typical person.

No comment!

Yeah, if I would of started this job at 18 I'm sure I would of been out on my own by 20.

Way back when I was about 18, and before starting my degree, I didn't have a proper job. My monthly income was the UK equivalent of about $200. My mum mentioned rent so I gave her half. A few months later I was away studying and I have nev really lived at home since (a month or two at my dad's after graduating is all, I think).

Any other gripes about my situation?

No. Do you?

Originally posted by Bushdog
Given what I think I know about the vast majority of people here (demographically speaking) you don't fall too high in the quality of life scale. Remember, everyone here isn't GuessWho or Dr. DVD.

:lol:
I cant believe you lumped GW into the LXCivic/Dr DVD demographic. rotfl

You guys don't even know me

hey, when did this turn into Ricki Lake?

Originally posted by joltaddict
:lol:
I cant believe you lumped GW into the LXCivic/Dr DVD demographic. rotfl

Yeah really, I should be in there before GW, at least he gets girls

So i'm guessing you're also gonna put one of those ultra-obnoxious cringe inducing mufflers that make the car sound like a dirt bike on this "hybrid"? If so, i hope it ends up in a rice paddy.....

Originally posted by Alien Redrum
"My house needs a new roof. Should I get it replaced or get pretty neon lites for the studmobile?"
Are you being sarcastic? Cuz you should get the lites, bro becuz neon lites rulez da world, man. I laid down over $35,000 on my 1982 Ford Escort and itz da bomb. All lamerz bow to me. And I know the chicks dig me cuz of my fly ride, right? And I will sell this car for $1,500 because it hasn't depreciated in value at all and buy a 1991 Honda Accord with 376,000 miles on it and drop a phat 1946 4-cylinder Porsche engine in. Everyone BE-hooold! I can now out accelerate that soccer mom at the stop light for one ripping block, yo! I know the beeotch was talking on the phone and had 6 kids pack in her SUV, but hey hey, ain't my fault she was slow on the pedals.

Oh maan, yo, my dad needs to use the computer to figure out taxes and stuff. I'm gonna go polish my wheelz, boyz! Peace, yo!

It is hard to relate to unresponsible people. Is there something wrong with me?

--thetenth

How can someone NOT see something wrong with having a kid and sleeping on a bunkbed with their brother? :confused:
How paralized by inertia do you have to be to not do something about that by 24? This sounds like the behavior of a scared little boy.

Do ricers realize they get laughed at by a majority of the population?

Originally posted by DTIC
Do ricers realize they get laughed at by a majority of the population?

Hmm because they look cool? -rolleyes-

http://www.compearth.com/stuntaz/iceyhot1.jpg http://www.compearth.com/stuntaz/lord.jpg

Originally posted by DTIC
Do ricers realize they get laughed at by a majority of the population?

No they are too busy trying to get their brother out of the room so they can have the bunk bed to themselves ;)

Originally posted by LX98Civic

This thread was not meant to be funny or entertaining. Geeeze this is my life we're talking about.........

.........which seems to be better off than a lot of other adults out there.

Actually, we have just been trying to help you get a life.

I'm sorry, I can't think of one person in your age group that you are currently better off than. Though I do find your phraseing interesting. You clearly don't associate 25 year olds as adults. I would guess most of the population does...except those banging their girl on a bunkbed when their brother is nice enough to leave :lol:

Note to self: Make sure to keep personal life secret when I turn 25. ;)

You guys bash all you want!!

I've got a career going where thousands have degrees and are sweating it out at the local restuarant. It's sad things go that way, but I am better off than MANY people out there.

Yeah, there are MANY people out there who are better off than me. But, I've talked to MANY people throughout my jobs and including this one who are having problems with the spouse, $$ problems, and any other problem you can think of....

My only problem is I don't have a house yet. AND I think it's more of a problem to you guys than myself since I am about to buy another car over moving out. I love my parents, love the cheap rent :):D , and will love having the h/b & LX.

....Oh, and I'll be checking out a white 93 h/b in the morning which if I like I'll be paying cash :o

Bash all you want, but how many of you can actually go withdraw 3k for something you really want? ...Make that 7k, since the motor will be on order a few days after.

:lol:

Most comedic post of the year.

Originally posted by LX98Civic
. . .
Bash all you want, but how many of you can actually go withdraw 3k for something you really want? ...Make that 7k, since the motor will be on order a few days after. Probably about 70% of the regular posters here could do that without blinking.

Originally posted by DTIC
:lol:

Most comedic post of the year.

Very well put.

There is nothing no one can say :)
Yeah, maybe I should of been out the house at 24, but at least I HAVE the opportunity to move out if I desired to :p

Originally posted by Bushdog
Probably about 70% of the regular posters here could do that without blinking.

Im almost tempted to do a poll. ;)

Originally posted by Bushdog
Probably about 70% of the regular posters here could do that without blinking.

At least I'm part of the 70% :)

Originally posted by joltaddict
Im almost tempted to do a poll. ;) Go ahead!

Done. :)
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=244655

Have you thought of it this way, your parents may be trying to get you out of the house by asking you to pay up, b/c you share a room, you wouldn't go for that, so your desire to get your own house grows and grows.

Originally posted by RandyC
But dude, to have a nice ride, only to take your girl back home to the bunkbed.... man... to each his own, but I could not do that.


man...i couldn't resist -smile-

Originally posted by LX98Civic
You guys bash all you want!!

I've got a career going where thousands have degrees and are sweating it out at the local restuarant. It's sad things go that way, but I am better off than MANY people out there.

Yeah, there are MANY people out there who are better off than me. But, I've talked to MANY people throughout my jobs and including this one who are having problems with the spouse, $$ problems, and any other problem you can think of....

My only problem is I don't have a house yet. AND I think it's more of a problem to you guys than myself since I am about to buy another car over moving out. I love my parents, love the cheap rent :):D , and will love having the h/b & LX.

....Oh, and I'll be checking out a white 93 h/b in the morning which if I like I'll be paying cash :o

Bash all you want, but how many of you can actually go withdraw 3k for something you really want? ...Make that 7k, since the motor will be on order a few days after.

And you'll still be sharing a bunkbed with your brother.

Man, you are money.

Originally posted by LX98Civic
You guys bash all you want!!

I've got a career going where thousands have degrees and are sweating it out at the local restuarant. It's sad things go that way, but I am better off than MANY people out there.

Yeah, there are MANY people out there who are better off than me. But, I've talked to MANY people throughout my jobs and including this one who are having problems with the spouse, $$ problems, and any other problem you can think of....

My only problem is I don't have a house yet. AND I think it's more of a problem to you guys than myself since I am about to buy another car over moving out. I love my parents, love the cheap rent :):D , and will love having the h/b & LX.

....Oh, and I'll be checking out a white 93 h/b in the morning which if I like I'll be paying cash :o

Bash all you want, but how many of you can actually go withdraw 3k for something you really want? ...Make that 7k, since the motor will be on order a few days after. Well, let's see here...

I have about $25000 in savings right now. Before I bought my house with a $16000 down payment, I had $41000 in savings. Last year, I had $32000 in my regular bank account from the $93000/year job I had. My g/f has about $42000 in savings right now. That's after she put a $15000 down payment on our house.

Yup, I think I can get that 93 h/b.

Originally posted by Borst
Hmm because they look cool? -rolleyes-

http://www.compearth.com/stuntaz/lord.jpg

rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

Very odd. You're simultaneously:

1. Bragging about how much money you make and have, and your extravagent purchases.

2. Lording it over those less fortunate than you.

3. Sleeping on a bunkbed with your brother.

4. Complaining that you can't afford to pay your parent's fair rent.

This thread is like an absurdist play. Each of the pieces is fine on its own, but when you put them together it just doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Groucho
Very odd. You're simultaneously:

1. Bragging about how much money you make and have, and your extravagent purchases.

2. Lording it over those less fortunate than you.

3. Sleeping on a bunkbed with your brother.

4. Complaining that you can't afford to pay your parent's fair rent.

This thread is like an absurdist play. Each of the pieces is fine on its own, but when you put them together it just doesn't make sense.

1 + 1 = 3 ?

Originally posted by LX98Civic

But, I've talked to MANY people throughout my jobs and including this one who are having problems with the spouse, $$ problems, and any other problem you can think of....


:lol: Yeah, no problems with your spouse because you are already divorced with a 5 year old and moved back in with mommy. You got it all.



My only problem is I don't have a house yet. Trust me, that is far from your only problem.



Bash all you want, but how many of you can actually go withdraw 3k for something you really want

:lol: 3 grand is nothing to most people. Admittedly it is a little easier to save up when you are still getting an allowance :lol:

Good for you. Have a great life. Move back in after the next marriage fails when it turns out there is only one adult in the relationship.

I do wish you luck, but even more, I wish you some maturity.

Originally posted by D.Placebo
1 + 1 = 3 ?

Engineers -rolleyes-






:p

Get a freaking apartment! Who cares how big it is??? Anything is better than being 25 and living in your parents house under your little brothers bunk bed. I don't know you and blah blah but I think you need to get your priorities straight.

Now if you had the top bunk, it would be a different story.

I'll bet Thunderball is thanking his parents right now...

Originally posted by LX98Civic
Very well put.

There is nothing no one can say :) You're right... it's already been said in the previous 13 pages.

Originally posted by X
I'll bet Thunderball is thanking his parents right now...

you bet.

Them giving me the "pay us $1000/week for rent or move out" ultimatum got me to Grow up ...A LOT.

Originally posted by Thunderball
you bet.

Them giving me the "pay us $1000/week for rent or move out" ultimatum got me to Grow up ...A LOT.

:thumbsup:

Your right I couldn't go to the bank right now and pull out 3,000 dollars to buy a 1993 car that I wouldn't drive back and forth to work.

But I am 26 with a wife and a kid on the way. We put 20% down on our house and have only 15 more years till it's paid off. We have stock investments at over 6 figures ( thank the lord even now). Own both of our cars outright neither of which are over 5 years old. Have no debt what so ever not even credit cards.

So you see some people have different priorities. If I still lived at home single not paying rent I could also go out and buy just about any car on the market, not just a Honda, but a 911 or a Viper but I want different things. To each their own, but you shouldn't brag about being able to pull money out of savings to buy a car when you sleep on-top of your little brother in bunk beds

Oy. Where to start.

Originally posted by Sn0
To each their own, but you shouldn't brag about being able to pull money out of savings to buy a car when you sleep on-top of your little brother in bunk beds

He sleeps on top of his brother!? :eek:





:D

I really think other than comic relief this thread and any others on this subject should be locked.

The originator has no desire to change so why post a thread.

The only thing I can see coming of this is someone or more than one person going way over the line and getting suspended or banned.

Which would really be a waste considering the subject matter :(

I wish LX98civic some luck since I think in the long run he will need it.

Originally posted by hypeiv
Originally posted by zuffy
I beleive he's buying an old Civic and will slap on a Integra engine in it, thus the hybrid. Once he have his hybrid, he will sell his current car, the Civic LX.

why not just drive an integra w/ integra engine?

this is not a diss, i just don't understand.

I'm so confused...

I don't know, I'd love to dig this up in a year when the threads are:

"dude, houses are expensive!! I can't afford one, and mommy says I can't stay in my brother's room anymore."

"hey! What do you mean I have to wash these clothes?"

"wow... bathrooms don't just stay naturally clean and fresh"

"I'm spending like $50 a month on stuff like shaving cream, razors, soap, and toilet paper... how does one survive?"

"man, groceries are expensive. I'm moving back home."

"I just had the lights shut off! I thought $80 a month was unreasonable, so I tried to negotiate to pay $5... now they're asking for $150 just to turn it back on! And another $150 in a security deposit to keep it on!! What do I do???!!!"

Like I said, you're so not ready to own a house.

Originally posted by einTier
I don't know, I'd love to dig this up in a year when the threads are:

"dude, houses are expensive!! I can't afford one, and mommy says I can't stay in my brother's room anymore."

"hey! What do you mean I have to wash these clothes?"

"wow... bathrooms don't just stay naturally clean and fresh"

"I'm spending like $50 a month on stuff like shaving cream, razors, soap, and toilet paper... how does one survive?"

"man, groceries are expensive. I'm moving back home."

"I just had the lights shut off! I thought $80 a month was unreasonable, so I tried to negotiate to pay $5... now they're asking for $150 just to turn it back on! And another $150 in a security deposit to keep it on!! What do I do???!!!"

Like I said, you're so not ready to own a house. So true, so true. This is why I don't listen to the opinions of anyone I know that has never lived on their own. It's all about perspective.

Originally posted by Sn0
Your right I couldn't go to the bank right now and pull out 3,000 dollars to buy a 1993 car that I wouldn't drive back and forth to work.

But I am 26 with a wife and a kid on the way. We put 20% down on our house and have only 15 more years till it's paid off. We have stock investments at over 6 figures ( thank the lord even now). Own both of our cars outright neither of which are over 5 years old. Have no debt what so ever not even credit cards.

So you see some people have different priorities. If I still lived at home single not paying rent I could also go out and buy just about any car on the market, not just a Honda, but a 911 or a Viper but I want different things. To each their own, but you shouldn't brag about being able to pull money out of savings to buy a car when you sleep on-top of your little brother in bunk beds Thank God there's still people like you that know what they're doing. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by hypeiv
why not just drive an integra w/ integra engine?

this is not a diss, i just don't understand.

I'm so confused... [/B][/QUOTE]

The Civic is considerably lighter than the Integra (probably about 300 lbs or so). All else being equal, an engine in a lighter car will mean the lighter car will accelerate faster.

The B18C1 engine that he wants (I think I remember reading that's the engine he wanted), is the Integra GS-R engine which has a displacement of 1797 cc, a compression ratio of 10.0:1, 170 HP@7600 RPM, and 128lb-ft torque@6200.

I assume he's buying a 5th generation Civic with an EG chassis since I think I read he was getting a '93. The US Civic (as opposed to the one Japan got (B16A)) has an engine (D16Z6) that cranks out 125 HP@6600 RPM and 106lb-ft torque@5200. Its displacement is 1590 cc and has a compression ratio of 9.2:1.

Basically, I'm spouting off those figures to say that the engine he wants is way better than the stock engine in the Civic he's buying. Also, if another Civic rolls up on him, they're not going to know what kind of engine he has under the hood and they would be unpleasantly surprised when he smoked them in a drag race.

Of course, if somebody were to have an H22 (Prelude engine) in their Civic, our favorite bunkbed-sleeping miser would be the smokee and not the smoker and would be seeing emergency lights flashing.

Clear?

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Originally posted by hypeiv
why not just drive an integra w/ integra engine?

this is not a diss, i just don't understand.


Dear god, this whole time I thought he was talking about the Civic Hybrid:

http://us.autos1.yimg.com/autos.yahoo.com/i/b/03/CIVIC13.jpg

(which I guess doesn't make much sense since they weren't around 9 years ago :) )

Originally posted by RandyC
Not really related, but amusing:
http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~attse/honduh.htm

:lol: that's a cool link

Originally posted by criptik28
Dear god, this whole time I thought he was talking about the Civic Hybrid:

http://us.autos1.yimg.com/autos.yahoo.com/i/b/03/CIVIC13.jpg

(which I guess doesn't make much sense since they weren't around 9 years ago :) )

rotfl

Dork. :p

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Wow.. If I had a choice between sleeping in a top bunk and having a nice ride oppose to sleeping in my own house and riding a bike to work. I would pick the bike.

No hobby is worth that much when you convert Pride into dollars.

As for your folks asking for money. They have every reason to. Unless you are bringing something BIG into the table, you should be willing to throw them some sort of compensation.

As for the Ricing. What the hell kind of priority do you have? Your getting the food before you get the plate to hold it in. You shouldn't go for the extra's before you get the basics. shelter, and I mean shelter you provide for yourself is what you need. As for the sprouting out of money. Frankly 3,000 would go by fast if your living by yourself in a house. paint the back, fix the pipes, wire work, lighting, tables, beds, couch, tv, etc. etc. expensives add up. the amount your spending on the extra's could be used to get the stuff basiclly needed for living.

You have a kid and your willing to sleep in a bed that is made for kids? Rather strange. You might be happy, but once reality hits you, I'm sure you will realize there needs to be some major life changes to get you to think about the high cost of living.

there are three kinds of folks in the world:

Those who make things happen, Those who watch things happen and those who wonder what happened. Which are you?

Ah screw it, Your not going to listen, so I might aswell suggest something you might listen to. For all that is sacred, do not put a spoiler on your future "rice mobile" cars with pointless spoilers = teh suckekekekekeke

Originally posted by criptik28
Dear god, this whole time I thought he was talking about the Civic Hybrid:

http://us.autos1.yimg.com/autos.yahoo.com/i/b/03/CIVIC13.jpg

(which I guess doesn't make much sense since they weren't around 9 years ago :) )

OMG, 7th gen. Civic's lick balls!

Here's what I am talking about:

http://mikulu.image.pbase.com/u11/onliner/small/2500679.spanky.jpg

This one is nice with the JDM teg front end.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/b/bbeaz/pics/4302092.jdm_civichb

For many more:


http://www.pbase.com/onliner/adamscivicpage

I'll probably end up doing this front end integra conversion:
(using the stock integra front end not that wide mouth kit, differnt wheels as well)

http://www.civichatch.com/registry/civtegra/01.jpg

That first pic of the 7th gen civic is GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alright, I read a little bit of the first thread and most of this one, and I am chuckling to myself right now. If only I can take out $3000-7000 from my bank to buy a civic, instead of putting 7000 a year into RRSP (401K for you Yanks -wink- )! I need to get my priorities straightened out.

Yes you may have a decent job right now, but dude, in all honesty, why not wait till your probation is up at work to buy **** that you don't really need right now? One year is a LONG time for probation, and I'm assuming that sick days, lates, etc.. will count against you during your reviews. Now lets say you are sick or sleep in some days. Over a course of 1 year, these days can really add up. Trust me about this. At my work we have a 3 month probation, and I have seen a lot of people let go because of their poor attendance. It's best to wait out your probation, and THEN maybe you could get the car you want, or maybe a bigger bunk bed for you, your gf and your brother? :hump:

By the way, I would love to soup up my 93 Honda Prelude SRV, but why bother? I already have a pretty gf, and would rather invest my money into positive growth investments, then dump money into something that might last another 5 years, or until I see something else I like.

Do you support your kid with child payments?? If so, the mother of your child might ask for an increase in payments, since you will be making more money now. And do you have your own insurance, or through your parents insurance?? My guess would be through your parents, but hopefully I am wrong.

LX
That is the ugliest looking rice car i"ve ever seen...

Does this picture remind anyone else of...




http://www.civichatch.com/registry/civtegra/01.jpg

The Ambiguously Gay Duo!!!

Originally posted by emanon
Does this picture remind anyone else of...

The Ambiguously Gay Duo!!!

Must be you.

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Originally posted by LX98Civic

Yeah, there are MANY people out there who are better off than me. But, I've talked to MANY people throughout my jobs and including this one who are having problems with the spouse, $$ problems, and any other problem you can think of....


Yeah, you've always been in a great relationship and you have no money problems whatsoever.

What you are doing is psychologically called "projecting." Check it out.

And we don't have 7k in the bank to spend on what we want because we spend it on bills.

The more you talk the more I realize how together I have it. Thanks.

Originally posted by GatorDeb
Yeah, you've always been in a great relationship and you have no money problems whatsoever.

What you are doing is psychologically called "projecting." Check it out.

And we don't have 7k in the bank to spend on what we want because we spend it on bills.

The more you talk the more I realize how together I have it. Thanks.

:lol: :up:

The only thing I can add to this is: pay rent and deal, or leave.

Pretty simple.

Originally posted by KnightLerxst
The only thing I can add to this is: pay rent and deal, or leave.


Or, as Dr. Phil would put it - "To pay the rent you've got to give your cents."

Pay the rent and don't complain about it. Better yet, move out and get on with your own life.

Originally posted by Munchos
One year is a LONG time for probation, and I'm assuming that sick days, lates, etc.. will count against you during your reviews. Now lets say you are sick or sleep in some days. Over a course of 1 year, these days can really add up. Trust me about this. At my work we have a 3 month probation, and I have seen a lot of people let go because of their poor attendance

You don't understand, his Mommy will always make sure that he gets up in time to go to work! She'll have his lunch ready to go in a Dukes of Hazzard lunchbox, and all of his laundry will be done every night when he gets home.

Originally posted by Munchos
Do you support your kid with child payments?? If so, the mother of your child might ask for an increase in payments, since you will be making more money now. And do you have your own insurance, or through your parents insurance?? My guess would be through your parents, but hopefully I am wrong.

LXCivic consistently ignores questions about CS and how it might affect his ability to get a mortgage. The only thing that he has said about CS is that he doesn't have to worry about it right now because "her mom" owes him a couple of thousand dollars. No mention of his plans when that debt is relieved, nor any acknowledgement of the fact that this non-related debt of $2000 might help offset his CS obligation, but does not in any way relieve his responsibility and legal obligation to continue paying in the event that the person who owes him money decides to stop paying. He simply can't tell Friend of the Court "She owes me money, so go to her to get the child support that I owe you!"

LXCivic, we're not critical of you for living with your parents, and if they were willing to let you live there for free then you would be perfectly justified in your cavalier attitude toward rent. The issue is that they requested rent from you and you became indignant. That is what is so laughable about the situation. You seem to have too much pride to pay more than $100/month to share a room and bunkbed with your brother, but only because they want you to pay for that privilege, not because it is a humiliating situation.

Most of us consider it a humiliating situation at any price.

Final thought: when you get this new ride, may I suggest the following vanity license plate: TOPBUNK

Hey Civic.

My question for you is in 20 years when your parents are barely able to walk around the house and need to have their diapers changed five times a day, will you fork over the money to pay for a fulltime nurse to go to their house and take care of them or will you send them to a crappy medicare paid home because you need new pipes on your hybrid?

If your parents are willing to allow you to live with them for $100 a month while you save for a house even though you are buying a car for entertainment and not need, then they are some of the most loving parents out there. I know you said you love them dearly, I hope you show your appreciation later in life when they need you to take care of them. What goes around should come around - share the love buddy.

Originally posted by Shoveler
Final thought: when you get this new ride, may I suggest the following vanity license plate: TOPBUNK

rotfl :lol: rotfl :lol:

Originally posted by Shoveler


Final thought: when you get this new ride, may I suggest the following vanity license plate: TOPBUNK

That's a good one! :lol:

Originally posted by LX98Civic
I love my parents, love the cheap rent :):D , and will love having the h/b & LX.

....Oh, and I'll be checking out a white 93 h/b in the morning which if I like I'll be paying cash :o

Bash all you want, but how many of you can actually go withdraw 3k for something you really want? ...Make that 7k, since the motor will be on order a few days after.

Thta's the problem - your parents are obviously not fussed on the cheap (or free) rent. Hence the reason they're asking you for rent.

So - if you KNEW 100% guaranteed your parents weren't happy with you living there for free (or $100 per month) would you then move out or pay more rent?

Yes - they're making good money, but you are too. That may be the problem (or part of it).

Final thought: when you get this new ride, may I suggest the following vanity license plate: TOPBUNK

:lol: rotfl

Originally posted by Shoveler
Final thought: when you get this new ride, may I suggest the following vanity license plate: TOPBUNK

Or, just BUNK...

Originally posted by Mister Beefhead
Or, just BUNK... :thumbsup: with an appropriate double meaning.

Originally posted by Shoveler
Final thought: when you get this new ride, may I suggest the following vanity license plate: TOPBUNK

:lol:

Originally posted by emanon
Does this picture remind anyone else of...




http://www.civichatch.com/registry/civtegra/01.jpg

The Ambiguously Gay Duo!!!

"Ace, I dropped the keys under your seat!"

Or DAS BUNK.

What about HOMEBOY? :D It took me two whole seconds to come up with that one.

Originally posted by LX98Civic
You guys bash all you want!!

I've got a career going where thousands have degrees and are sweating it out at the local restuarant. It's sad things go that way, but I am better off than MANY people out there.

Yeah, there are MANY people out there who are better off than me. But, I've talked to MANY people throughout my jobs and including this one who are having problems with the spouse, $$ problems, and any other problem you can think of....

My only problem is I don't have a house yet. AND I think it's more of a problem to you guys than myself since I am about to buy another car over moving out. I love my parents, love the cheap rent :):D , and will love having the h/b & LX.

....Oh, and I'll be checking out a white 93 h/b in the morning which if I like I'll be paying cash :o

Bash all you want, but how many of you can actually go withdraw 3k for something you really want? ...Make that 7k, since the motor will be on order a few days after.

The Wheels on the Civic go...

round and round...
round and round...

The wheels on the Civic go...

(all together now!)

round and round....
round and round....

All this and I thought you were going to buy a gun before the house. Talk about a shift in priorities. :lol:

Oh yeah!...what happened to buying that concealed gun?

Wha...!?!!? He's gonna buy a gun too? Dude, the bottom bunk isn't <i>that</i> much better is it? No need to off your bro just because of that.

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Originally posted by immortal_zeus
Wha...!?!!? He's gonna buy a gun too? Dude, the bottom bunk isn't <i>that</i> much better is it? No need to off your bro just because of that.

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No, IIRC, it was for home protection.

What home?!?! He's living with mom and dad and sleeping with baby bro in a frickin' bunk bed!

Buying a gun for home protection before he buys his home is like buying gas for his new hybrid before he buys the car. :p

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Originally posted by immortal_zeus
What home?!?! He's living with mom and dad and sleeping with baby bro in a frickin' bunk bed!

Buying a gun for home protection before he buys his home is like buying gas for his new hybrid before he buys the car. :p

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It was a whole 'nother thread about buying a handgun for protection for his (future) home.

He's not gonna get it. Give up, guys. One day he will have a "Moment of Clarity" hit himself on the head and that will be it. Some people have miserable lives in high school and try to recreate them all the way up to, apparently, 25.

Sad thing is, this guy has less going for him than me and he has a GF! :(

Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Sad thing is, this guy has less going for him than me and he has a GF! :(

Oh Bushdog :lol:

Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Sad thing is, this guy has less going for him than me and he has a GF! :( Well, we don't know anything about his girl. She could be a skanky ho (civic, not saying she is at all, just pointing out that we don't know anything about her).

She's either incredibly cool and loving, or she's got no self respect, for dating BUNKBED.

Originally posted by Thunderball
Oh Bushdog :lol: I'm on the case.:D

Originally posted by Bushdog
She's either incredibly cool and loving, or she's got no self respect, for dating BUNKBED.

My moneys on the latter.

This thread makes me :lol:

Dave

Wow. And still lost in all this is how he plans to help support what should be the most important thing in his life....his daughter. That $3000 he can produce at the drop of a hat would start a nice college fund for her.

Careful guys (and girls). Even though most people don't agree with LX, you shouldn't berrate him. I think this is going a bit too far.

LX: I hope you figure out what your priorities are and what they probably should be. Good luck.

Oh yeah...I'd lose in a car race.....but give me some time... I'm saving up...for a really big.....nest egg :) (Ok...a house and a nice piece of land too)

-pedagogue

You're right, I totally forgot about the "I want a handgun before I move out on my own." (http://dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=232282&highlight=concealed)

In light of that thread, and this one, I have simply this to say: grow up. Forget the house, forget the bling-bling pimpin' hybrid, and forget the concealed handgun. Move out into an apartment and learn how to live on your own. I know you won't listen to me, but I just keep hoping you will.

Right now, you are the most irresponsible person I know, and I know some pretty irresponsible people. You might not have bills to worry about, but I don't see you stepping up to the plate and addressing the responsibilities that come with being a 25 year old divorced father of one. Period.

I fear what will happen if you do buy a house. You've never actually lived in a place you were repsonsible for paying the rent or mortgage on, or keeping clean or maintained. A home has all of these responsibilities -- and if you don't take care of them, you will see your "investment" rapidly become a liability.

I fear even more what will happen if you do buy a handgun. You don't have to take any classes, so I'm quite sure that you probably won't head out to the range, or ever learn how to properly use and care for your new "toy". I wrote a lot on this topic, but your cavalier attitude to responsibility coupled with a handgun is simply a disaster waiting to happen.

Right now, I think the best thing for you to do is to find a friend and get an apartment, and find out what living on your own is really about.

Originally posted by LX98Civic
Probation is a year and I know I said I just started my job not to long ago. I work for TSA.

Exactly! Get my Hybrid and then the house. ...and when I go to buy my house sell my LX for whatever 6-8k which is $$ for the house :)

Priority 1 should be housing. Either a house or a condo. Why pay hundreds of $$$ a month for something that will only depreciate when you don't have your own housing? What's wrong with your car right now? Is it costing you a ton on repair bills? My gf lives at home and she just bought a new car. But she is also an independent contractor and her car including the insurance is a tax write off. And her old car cost her $5K in repair bills in the last 6 months.

If we're not in a housing bubble and the prices continue to go up then you'll be in trouble trying to save up for a house while paying for a new car.

Where do you live? DO you actually need a car? What about public transportation? I live in NYC and don't have a car. If you really need a car I'd keep your present one. Or get a regualr civic and not a hybrid. It'll be cheaper in the long run when you factor in the interest paid on the loan.

Wow, this thread is starting to rival GuessWho's "In Love With My Boss" series.

Originally posted by teplitsa
Priority 1 should be housing. Either a house or a condo. Why pay hundreds of $$$ a month for something that will only depreciate when you don't have your own housing? What's wrong with your car right now? Is it costing you a ton on repair bills? My gf lives at home and she just bought a new car. But she is also an independent contractor and her car including the insurance is a tax write off. And her old car cost her $5K in repair bills in the last 6 months.

If we're not in a housing bubble and the prices continue to go up then you'll be in trouble trying to save up for a house while paying for a new car.

Where do you live? DO you actually need a car? What about public transportation? I live in NYC and don't have a car. If you really need a car I'd keep your present one. Or get a regualr civic and not a hybrid. It'll be cheaper in the long run when you factor in the interest paid on the loan.

I'll answer for him, since this has all been covered in this thread..

1) He's paying for it with CASH, then dropping another $3500 on the Integra engine. So, he's probably going to NOT spend $3000, but upwards of $7000....
But that's how much he wants to put down on his House :confused:

2)He was preapproved for a loan for an $80K(I think) house 2 years ago.
[Other Forum] BUT that was BEFORE the divorce and child support![/Other Forum]

3)Lives in GA, doesn't actually NEED the car, he just wants to upgrade his current ricemobile for a new ricemobile. A regular Civic? :lol: But then when the nice soccer mom pulls up next to him at the redlight he cant' blow her away.

Originally posted by Dr. DVD
Wow, this thread is starting to rival GuessWho's "In Love With My Boss" series.

Not even close.

and LX, I know this is going to fall on deaf ears....but...

Living on your own is really really a lot harder then you think it's going to be.

That laundry pile builds up fast, so do the dishes.

Bills after bills show up at your door.

You have a "good job" but with your love of cars, I can't see you budgeting yourself properly. You'll see your checking account has $2K in it, and go buy yourself the new super 19" rims and then the next day the property taxes will show up and you'll be S.O.L.

I love my mom and step dad to death. Really I do. But...
The greatest thing they ever did was force me to move out of the house and into my own place. I've done so much growing up in the last 10 months, I can't even begin to describe it.
All of a sudden, things like DVDs and my car don't mean near as much to me, but eating and getting my laundry clean means a whole lot. As does not having my phone or cable turned off...

My job has also become a #1 priority. As w/o that job, I'm basically ****ed beyond belief.

You need to grow up and just move out. Do you really need a house? Why? Do you know how much it costs to INITIALLY FURNISH a house? You're looking at probably 5K to 8K just to get stuff you need(I'm guessing at the total $$ amount). Lawnmower. Washer. Dryer. Fridge. Entertainment Center. Sofa. Chair. Dining Room Set. Dishwasher? Oh wait... , do you own your own TV?

Oh yeah,a ll of a sudden automobiel gas is very expensive.

JUST THINK ABOUT THIS!
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So when your parents get old, unable to care for themselves can they move in with you?

Why do you keep coming to the Otters for advice when your mind is already made up and you'll just ignore the advice anyway?

You know I have a love for gold bricks...I think I will stop paying for my car, and car insurance, so I can continue my love of gold bricks.

I am sure GMAC will understand.

Originally posted by weargle
Why do you keep coming to the Otters for advice when your mind is already made up and you'll just ignore the advice anyway?

The bling is mightier than common sense.

+25 points to einTier for using "bling bling" in a sentence. :thumbsup:

I think he needs an apartment first. I hope to avoid getting a house for a long time to avoid property tax and such ilk. I also hate having to mow the lawn, bad memories of adolesence when I was forced to do so by Dad. ;)

Originally posted by Dr. DVD
I think he needs an apartment first. I hope to avoid getting a house for a long time to avoid property tax and such ilk. I also hate having to mow the lawn, bad memories of adolesence when I was forced to do so by Dad. ;) Terrible idea. Home ownership is a great tax shelter. Owning also builds equity. It beats rental 10 out of 10 times.

Originally posted by Bushdog
Terrible idea. Home ownership is a great tax shelter. Owning also builds equity. It beats rental 10 out of 10 times.

Nope, not a terrible idea.

Bushy, there are 2 kinds of poeple
those that should own a home and those that should rent a place.

I'm in the rental half.

Renting would be a good first step. A lot easier to get out of renting a place if all of a sudden if you have money trouble because you had to buy a new coffee can exhaust for your car. You gotta get your priorities in line b-dog. ;)

Dave

Originally posted by Thunderball
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I'm in the rental half. Why? Can't afford a home yet?

That's the same boat I'm in, and for us it is a good idea to rent as we have no choice. All things equal, ownership is better. It's just we have something unequal (that is, ability to afford it or not).

Originally posted by zero
The bling is mightier than common sense.

Thank you.

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Originally posted by Bushdog
Why? Can't afford a home yet?

That's the same boat I'm in, and for us it is a good idea to rent as we have no choice. All things equal, ownership is better. It's just we have something unequal (that is, ability to afford it or not).

Don't forget, with a mortgage you/LX will have to pay closing costs and, at selling time, possible agents' fees. Then there's gas, electric, water, sewer, cable, garbage, recycling... all the stuff that Mom and Dad are covering now (for much more than $100/month, I'm willing to bet). These will offset the benefits of any tax shelters for short-term owners, and LX has stated that he will be out of this house in about 2 years, which make it likely that he will not see any of the benefits of ownership, but instead will lose money overall.

like everyone else, I am enjoying this thread.. but I don't want to go back through 13 pages of searching... what kind of "Great" job does LX have? I thought I saw something about The Sports Authority.. isn't that a retail store? He was previously at Walmart wasn't he?

Since he is ripping on us with degrees that don't make much money... Even though I don't get paid that much (relatively), I probably get paid more than LX, and at least I know my job is stable, pay will increase annually, and I can establish this as my career for the rest of my life if I want to. I know I have a lot better chance than LX to buy a place in a couple years, even in this expensive area. What was the pay again?

Oh, right now I am in the rental half as well, but I have a prelude engine if anyone wants to buy it to put in a civic.

fluffer

Originally posted by immortal_zeus

Clear?


for the price of a civic w/ a gs-r engine couldn't you just take a gs-r and make it faster?... doesn't aerodynamics of an integra make up for the weight difference?

I love imports too, but i can't believe people would hide powerful engines in side of a civic when you could just drive the nice lude or integra. But to each his own.

Originally posted by hypeiv
for the price of a civic w/ a gs-r engine couldn't you just take a gs-r and make it faster?... doesn't aerodynamics of an integra make up for the weight difference?

I love imports too, but i can't believe people would hide powerful engines in side of a civic when you could just drive the nice lude or integra. But to each his own.
yah but with the civic, you would be able to fold down the back seat in case his little bro ever wakes up and he wants some of his gf.

Originally posted by hypeiv
for the price of a civic w/ a gs-r engine couldn't you just take a gs-r and make it faster?... doesn't aerodynamics of an integra make up for the weight difference?

I love imports too, but i can't believe people would hide powerful engines in side of a civic when you could just drive the nice lude or integra. But to each his own.

But, dood! You don't understand, yo! That's why I'm dropping a Ferrari F40 engine in my John Deere! It'll be the ultimate sleeper, dood! I'll be lighting grocery wagons at every light, boyeee!

Originally posted by hypeiv
for the price of a civic w/ a gs-r engine couldn't you just take a gs-r and make it faster?... doesn't aerodynamics of an integra make up for the weight difference?

I love imports too, but i can't believe people would hide powerful engines in side of a civic when you could just drive the nice lude or integra. But to each his own.

Civic + B18C1 $$ < Integra + B18C1 $$$

I don't know what the drag coefficent of the Civic or Integra are, but I imagine, that they're not too far off. Especially since we're talking about the hatchback.

Some people just like the styling of the Civic hatchback better than the Integra or Prelude. Like I said, the Civic is also lighter...which is very important in racing. Moreover, it gives them a "sleeper" because not everybody will suspect that they have a better engine than the stock one.

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