What will Sony do ?
10-04-02, 02:17 PM
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What will Sony do ?
Xbox is coming with 2 games and a controller, Game Cube will be coming with Mario Sunshine...What can Sony do?
I say a bundle is in order...maybe gta3, ffx...but this is wishful thinking
I say a bundle is in order...maybe gta3, ffx...but this is wishful thinking
10-04-02, 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by ClarkKentKY
{Obviously hasn't seen the Gran Turismo 3 bundles out for the past year}
{Obviously hasn't seen the Gran Turismo 3 bundles out for the past year}
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I knew about the GT 3 bundles, but frankly this isn't that exciting because you can get GT3 for 20 bucks now...just a thought.
Also the MS and the Nintendo deals include newer games, and are an attractive option for people who are looking to get an additional system. GT3 just isn't that great of an option, especially when it is on the discount rack now. I would like to see Sony market a competively priced bundle with a newer game, which would be an incentive to me to buy it instead of a sunshine bundle.
Also the MS and the Nintendo deals include newer games, and are an attractive option for people who are looking to get an additional system. GT3 just isn't that great of an option, especially when it is on the discount rack now. I would like to see Sony market a competively priced bundle with a newer game, which would be an incentive to me to buy it instead of a sunshine bundle.
10-04-02, 03:00 PM
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They don't need to do anything. They are well established as the market leader.
That said if they sold a bundle with a PS2, extra controller, DVD remote, GTA3, and FF X for $149 they'd grind the competition into the dust.
That said if they sold a bundle with a PS2, extra controller, DVD remote, GTA3, and FF X for $149 they'd grind the competition into the dust.
10-04-02, 03:01 PM
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Well, I have a feeling they'll soon be bundling the network adapter with it but a game would be nice.
Of course, a $50 price drop would be even better but I doubt that will happen this year.
Of course, a $50 price drop would be even better but I doubt that will happen this year.
10-04-02, 03:25 PM
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Yeah, I'm thinking they're going to bundle the network adapter and maybe a game, though I'm not sure which game, considering I don't care for online console gaming so I don't keep up with it. I really doubt a GTA3 bundle though, considering it's a Mature title.
10-04-02, 03:34 PM
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Yeah i have to agree with Drexl, ... THe network adapter will soon become part of the package. The only thing that might prevent that, is the fact that its selling fine as a stand alone.
You'll never see a GTA3 or FFX bundle. A: Those are third party games. B: One is a mature title C: FFX's RPG style doesn't appeal to all players
I pointed out the GT3 bundle, but you're right, its only 20 bucks now. I purchased my system as part of a GT3 bundle last year. But i would have loved a "hardware bundle." I think if you are going to see a GOOD PS2 bundle, it would be the system, network adapter, memory card, and two controllers. All official Sony stuff. That would be better than a 50$ price drop or a game bundle in my opinion. It would save gamers about 80-90 bucks when purchasing the system, and only cost sony about half of that. It would also give gamers THE COMPLETE PACKAGE out of the box. Online ability, Memory for saving game, and two controllers for head to head gaming.
Whatever happened to the days of the "NES home entertainment system" A dual-game, the system, a light gun, two controllers?
I doubt we'll see a price drop this year. Why should we? The ps2 is selling fine without the drop, and 199 is a pretty good price point.
You'll never see a GTA3 or FFX bundle. A: Those are third party games. B: One is a mature title C: FFX's RPG style doesn't appeal to all players
I pointed out the GT3 bundle, but you're right, its only 20 bucks now. I purchased my system as part of a GT3 bundle last year. But i would have loved a "hardware bundle." I think if you are going to see a GOOD PS2 bundle, it would be the system, network adapter, memory card, and two controllers. All official Sony stuff. That would be better than a 50$ price drop or a game bundle in my opinion. It would save gamers about 80-90 bucks when purchasing the system, and only cost sony about half of that. It would also give gamers THE COMPLETE PACKAGE out of the box. Online ability, Memory for saving game, and two controllers for head to head gaming.
Whatever happened to the days of the "NES home entertainment system" A dual-game, the system, a light gun, two controllers?
I doubt we'll see a price drop this year. Why should we? The ps2 is selling fine without the drop, and 199 is a pretty good price point.
10-04-02, 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by ClarkKentKY
A: Those are third party games.
A: Those are third party games.
10-04-02, 05:33 PM
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whats this gc bundle with mario...and how much is it? im looking to buy a gc soon, but am thinking/hoping it hits like $99 soon. Also, isnt there a new color coming?
10-04-02, 06:06 PM
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GC Bundle is Indigo GC, Mario Sunshine, 1 controller, 1 mem 59 card.
The new color is platinum, and it's coming out "limited edition" sometime this fall.
As for Sony, this is what I think we'll see.
PS2, Dual Shock, Network Adapter, Twisted Metal Black online.
They don't need anything to help sales out, but their online gaming could likely use a kick. This could do it, and they're already giving away Twisted Metal Black Online, so that's no extra cost to them.
SOCOM would be another possibility, but I doubt that as they're not desperate to pick up sales.
I could also see them waiting and just doing a online gamers bundle with the network adapter and hard drive.
The new color is platinum, and it's coming out "limited edition" sometime this fall.
As for Sony, this is what I think we'll see.
PS2, Dual Shock, Network Adapter, Twisted Metal Black online.
They don't need anything to help sales out, but their online gaming could likely use a kick. This could do it, and they're already giving away Twisted Metal Black Online, so that's no extra cost to them.
SOCOM would be another possibility, but I doubt that as they're not desperate to pick up sales.
I could also see them waiting and just doing a online gamers bundle with the network adapter and hard drive.
10-06-02, 03:41 AM
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The first shipment did sell out of network adapters but aren't they starting to appear again? I thought I saw them listed on eb. One more thing, please explain josh how the sony online plans "could likely use a kick" when they are the only ones online right now? Socom, Madden, Tribes, TWB: Online are all online right now. Socom is always filled with people, Madden same thing, Twisted Metal Black I just got but there was no problem finding players earlier today. Why even make a comment like that if you don't know the situation? The online gaming is going great for PS2 so far. How many other systems can say the same thing? None.
10-06-02, 06:10 AM
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Because everyone thinks Sony's plan to not charge, but let the game company choose to charge, is worse than the XBL plan. They're probably thinking that all the companies will start charging a fee because they can, and I doubt that will happen.....
10-06-02, 10:53 AM
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It doesn't need a kick. My local EB got 5 adaptors in yesterday and they sold out in an hour. Sony's online plan seems to be really doing fairly well.
I agree a Sony online bundle is probably in the works though.
I agree a Sony online bundle is probably in the works though.
10-06-02, 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by ClarkKentKY
You'll never see a GTA3 or FFX bundle. A: Those are third party games. B: One is a mature title C: FFX's RPG style doesn't appeal to all players
You'll never see a GTA3 or FFX bundle. A: Those are third party games. B: One is a mature title C: FFX's RPG style doesn't appeal to all players
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10-07-02, 01:01 AM
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I'm not so sure Sony needs to do anything except keep pushing the online games out the door. I was reading in the thread abotu xbox live experiences and there seems to be a lot of negative experiences and people having to boil the discs to get them to work right. What exactly is this boiling the discs about? Microsoft still has a month to work out the problems but if people are having to boil the discs for some reason that might not be enough time.
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Originally posted by s}{ammer
I'm not so sure Sony needs to do anything except keep pushing the online games out the door. I was reading in the thread abotu xbox live experiences and there seems to be a lot of negative experiences and people having to boil the discs to get them to work right. What exactly is this boiling the discs about? Microsoft still has a month to work out the problems but if people are having to boil the discs for some reason that might not be enough time.
I'm not so sure Sony needs to do anything except keep pushing the online games out the door. I was reading in the thread abotu xbox live experiences and there seems to be a lot of negative experiences and people having to boil the discs to get them to work right. What exactly is this boiling the discs about? Microsoft still has a month to work out the problems but if people are having to boil the discs for some reason that might not be enough time.
But I have had a lot of problems with SOCOM online so far. I get kicked off the game (it crashes) at least once every couple of hours. On Friday nights it's a lot even more often. The voice is flakey, especially when someone is booted. Overall it feels more like a beta test than the actual game. Overall it is very crashy, buggy, and the lag really sucks (I see lag almost every time I play now).
XBL on the other hand is doing a beta test. I'm not sure how you can get on their case when it's expected to not run smoothly while SOCOM online (as fun as it is), is really a buggy and flakey SOB. This is probably the only Sony online game I'll be getting thanks to the voice communicator showing me that's the only way to play games online.
I dunno about you Slammer, but thanks to SOCOM I'm really looking forward to Ghost Recon now (whenever it comes out). Full duplex communication (which is definitely needed in sneaking, pushing the speak button goofs up the gameplay -- eg, you are holding the voice button and end up in a firefight and get killed), Buddy lists, limited number of gamer names (ie you can make a million different ones in SOCOM and end up playing with a jerk over and over again when he has different names.. not that likely but still) no 56K people hacking into it, muting jerks, better graphics and larger levels and more realistic gameplay (and I prefer the controller too)... I'm really looking forward to it. Don't get me wrong, I love SOCOM, I'm addicted to it... but it does have a lot of drawbacks. Luckily the pros outweight the cons, but I definitely think I'll make the switch (I was on the fence about XBL but SOCOM has me jazzed up now).
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10-07-02, 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by Gallant Pig
I hate to swing this off-topic...
But I have had a lot of problems with SOCOM online so far. I get kicked off the game (it crashes) at least once every couple of hours. On Friday nights it's a lot even more often. The voice is flakey, especially when someone is booted. Overall it feels more like a beta test than the actual game. Overall it is very crashy, buggy, and the lag really sucks (I see lag almost every time I play now).
XBL on the other hand is doing a beta test. I'm not sure how you can get on their case when it's expected to not run smoothly while SOCOM online (as fun as it is), is really a buggy and flakey SOB. This is probably the only Sony online game I'll be getting thanks to the voice communicator showing me that's the only way to play games online.
I hate to swing this off-topic...
But I have had a lot of problems with SOCOM online so far. I get kicked off the game (it crashes) at least once every couple of hours. On Friday nights it's a lot even more often. The voice is flakey, especially when someone is booted. Overall it feels more like a beta test than the actual game. Overall it is very crashy, buggy, and the lag really sucks (I see lag almost every time I play now).
XBL on the other hand is doing a beta test. I'm not sure how you can get on their case when it's expected to not run smoothly while SOCOM online (as fun as it is), is really a buggy and flakey SOB. This is probably the only Sony online game I'll be getting thanks to the voice communicator showing me that's the only way to play games online.
Personally, if I ever saw someone wearing a headset while playing a game and talking to their console and yelling at the TV, I'd ship them off to a mental institution.
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