Another solid documentary is <b><i>WRANGLER</i></b>, a very informative look at one of gay porn's biggest stars, and a good overview of the early days of gay porn.
I assume the doc explains why he married some chick.
JJay
03-12-09, 10:09 AM
^ what you didn't like 'AGM: Gays Gone Wild' ?
To be honest, I thought it was quite horrible. Loved the first one, though. I felt it was camp for the sake of camp (and not as a natural outgrowth of the story); the acting was terribly subpar; didn't like the recasting (though I understand why); and maybe a tiny bit offensive to people with a brain.
For reference, I LOVE Boy Culture, Naked Boys Singing, Broken Hearts Club and Trick, among others.
Giles
03-12-09, 10:26 AM
To be honest, I thought it was quite horrible. Loved the first one, though. I felt it was camp for the sake of camp (and not as a natural outgrowth of the story); the acting was terribly subpar; didn't like the recasting (though I understand why); and maybe a tiny bit offensive to people with a brain.
For reference, I LOVE Boy Culture, Naked Boys Singing, Broken Hearts Club and Trick, among others.
harsh aren't we?
:duel:
JJay
03-12-09, 10:28 AM
Us writer-types have a reputation to uphold. :D
Giles
03-12-09, 10:33 AM
^ personally I woudn't be proud of that attitude of yours.
(that's a thread crap and a personal attack IMO)
to each his own.
JJay
03-12-09, 10:34 AM
Honestly (and I was joking...), I call it like I see it. If the movie is bad (IMHO), I'll say it. If it's good (again, IMHO), I'll say that too...regardless of what anyone else might think.
I was one of the only people who actually enjoyed Ghost Rider...
Giles
03-12-09, 10:38 AM
Honestly (and I was joking...), I call it like I see it. If the movie is bad (IMHO), I'll say it. If it's good (again, IMHO), I'll say that too...regardless of what anyone else might think.
I was one of the only people who actually enjoyed Ghost Rider...
really, I couldn't tell...
the film might be 'bad' in your opinion, but to suggest that people who did enjoy the film are "brainless" is just rude.
JJay
03-12-09, 10:42 AM
the film might be 'bad' in your opinion, but to suggest that people who did enjoy the film are "brainless" is just rude.
Never said the word brainless. I said it might be offensive if you have a brain. Or have discriminating taste when it comes to movies. Or don't like low brow material. Everything doesn't need to be Citizen Kane or Star Wars, but IMHO it needs to have some value. (IMHO) Even the guys weren't good looking.
Giles
03-12-09, 10:47 AM
you want to dig that hole any deeper... you've said what you wanted to say, and it was negative to me personally
JJay
03-12-09, 10:51 AM
Why not? Seems you're pretty much determined to hate me anyway.
Giles
03-12-09, 10:54 AM
no...
you're assuming because I enjoyed this movie, you think my taste in movies is of the lowest possible value. Plain and simple. I don't care if you didn't like this movie and I'm not going to change your mind, but to make the overall assumption that others unlike yourself can find their own entertainment of this film to be inferior.
JJay
03-12-09, 10:59 AM
you're assuming because I enjoyed this movie, you think my taste in movies is of the lowest possible value. Plain and simple.
Never said that and never thought that. People all like sorts of things I don't and vice versa. It's the way of the world.
I don't care if you didn't like this movie and I'm not going to change your mind, but to make the overall assumption that others unlike yourself can find their own entertainment of this film to be inferior.
Again, I made no judgment on anyone who might have liked this or another movie. I simply said it might be offensive to people with a brain.
We both need to step away and get a touch of perspective on this.
wago70
03-19-09, 12:18 AM
I quite enjoyed Jeff London's latest film "Arizona Sky". Good commentary, but lacking any other extras (he usually has on-camera interviews with cast). I didn't care for the transfer on DVD - too many horizontal, shimmery lines on the edges of everything. Good movie, though. I may purchase.
Flicker
03-21-09, 07:38 PM
I did a title search and find nothing as to availability on DVD so I'm asking here. A 1971 film with Fannie Flagg, Rue McClanahan, Gary Sandy, Gil Gerard and others. Entitled "Some Of My Best Friends Are" and takes place in a Greenwich Village gay bar on Christmas Eve 1971.
Am I the only one that has seen the movie and would like the DVD?
Giles
03-26-09, 09:00 AM
I just watched Chris & Don: A Love Story (a film about the life long relationship between artist Don Bachardy and author Christopher Isherwood) and I thought it was very touching and engaging. The story is not only remarkable for the fact that the two were some thirty years apart in age, but that through life, the two were inseperable. The depiction of their love and relationship through the use of traditional cel animation, Don: a cat, Chris, a horse adds a touching and simplisticity. It is also fascinating to see the home movies of the two of them that are interspersed into the framing of their story, Don at 17, looks even younger than his actual age at the time, as seen on the poster/advertising of the film:
Saw this last year. loved it - how are the extras?
Giles
03-26-09, 11:37 AM
I must admit I really didn't have the time to delve in the supplements, it took me a staggering four days just to watch the movie. The extras are 'additional interviews, home movies, theatrical trailer', I tend to want to go through movies quickly with Netflix so I can make use of my one DVD at a time work out, next up: 'Wranger: Anatomy of an Icon'
LiquidSky
03-26-09, 11:38 AM
I did a title search and find nothing as to availability on DVD so I'm asking here. A 1971 film with Fannie Flagg, Rue McClanahan, Gary Sandy, Gil Gerard and others. Entitled "Some Of My Best Friends Are" and takes place in a Greenwich Village gay bar on Christmas Eve 1971.
Am I the only one that has seen the movie and would like the DVD?
I've never heard of it....but would give it a watch if available.
LiquidSky
03-26-09, 11:40 AM
next up: 'Wranger: Anatomy of an Icon'
I wasn't very impressed with this one.
Giles
03-26-09, 11:41 AM
^ :sad:
LiquidSky
03-26-09, 01:31 PM
^ :sad:
:lol: Well, maybe you will like it. Let me know!! :)
Giles
03-26-09, 01:46 PM
well, now I have to go back onto Netflix and bump it up to number 2 in my queue, 'Milk' is at #1, and Fassbinder's 'Fox and His Friends' was #2
Giles
03-30-09, 10:01 AM
RE: Wrangler: Anatomy of An Icon
I wasn't very impressed with this one.
I actually didn't mind this. I did think though the movie sidestepped Jack at times, and divirged into seventies porn in general. (i.e, the plot meandered at times - personally I'd love to see a definitive doc on 70's porn and the theatres that showed them). I thought the doc, did a fairly good job detailing all the weird erradic personal decisions by Jack, but it didn't get a graphic as it should, another completely different disc I watched afterwards, makes him out as a complete hypocrite, he says he's gay, but for money he'll munch the cooch ( :whofart: ) - I would have had far more questions about his foray into straight porn films. Lastly, the interviews seem to contradict the overall story of his personality, he marrys Margaret Whiting, but during the interview he seems to state he is "gay" - I know there are many out there, who marry just because they are supposed to (under social or family pressure) but then to make this type of statements, make him out as a shallow individual or can't see outside the realm of his own decisions (he might be complex, but the documentary just scrapes the surface).
joeblow69
03-30-09, 11:51 AM
Has anyone seen the new Bruce LeBruce flick yet? Otto ... about gay zombies? I'd like to, but I'd like to wait for a price drop.
I LOVE zombie films, I don't know why this isn't in my netflix queue.
Giles
04-02-09, 12:58 PM
^ I know I should probably comment on OTTO after watching the film completely, I've only watched about a half an hour of it, but the tone and structure of the film seems like a less pretensious (more homosexualized) Guy Maddin film, interspresed with some hardcore sex, the scene
where the zombie is fucking (in graphic detail) it's victims just disembowled stomach, was just insanely funny, gross and totally off the wall let's hope the rest of the film is just as crazy.
LiquidSky
04-07-09, 03:16 PM
RIP Jack Wrangler
http://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Actor_Writer_and_Producer_Jack_Wrangler_Dead_At_62_20010101
Giles
04-08-09, 08:37 AM
^ really?! R.I.P
Giles
04-15-09, 01:02 PM
there was a fascinating 1985 interview over on NPR just within the last few days of the now deceased Jack Wrangler and Margaret Whiting
joeblow69
05-27-09, 03:24 PM
^ I know I should probably comment on OTTO after watching the film completely, I've only watched about a half an hour of it, but the tone and structure of the film seems like a less pretensious (more homosexualized) Guy Maddin film, interspresed with some hardcore sex, the scene
where the zombie is fucking (in graphic detail) it's victims just disembowled stomach, was just insanely funny, gross and totally off the wall let's hope the rest of the film is just as crazy.
I finally watched this last night with a couple friends ... and found it excruciatingly boring. And if Bruce was doing his best to make the most annoying film he could, I dare say he succeeded. I kept turning to my friends, and wincing through the whole thing saying ... "Sorry, I'm sure it will get better!"
Finally, the last 10 or 15 minutes got a tad interesting, but great googily-moogily it's not worth sitting through the rest of that dreck to see!
LiquidSky
05-27-09, 04:58 PM
I've yet to see a BLB film I liked.
marty888
05-27-09, 08:06 PM
I've yet to see a BLB film I liked.
The only one of his that I ever recommend is <b>SUGAR</b> with Brendan Fehr and Andre Noble.
Giles
05-27-09, 08:20 PM
it's technically not a 'gay' film, but the comedic homoeroticism in 'OSS 117: Cairo, Nest of Spies' is hysterical - of course it's a French riff on James Bond, where the implication that the lead character Hubert Bonisseur swings both ways is well... oh so French.
joeblow69
05-29-09, 11:27 AM
I've yet to see a BLB film I liked.
I actually really liked Raspberry Reich, though after watching it a second time a couple weeks ago, I will admit, there's a lot of "monologue time filler" in there.
That seems to be the big problem with all of BLB's films, he doesn't have quite enough story to fill out 90 minutes so he has one of his stars babble on and on incoherently about some random deep sounding subject.
Oooh, another one I liked was the German skin head movie. Skin Gang? Though the porno version was better. :D
Flicker
08-13-09, 06:17 AM
Here is a title I would recommend for any non-homophobic film lover. Connie and Carla
I found it new recently for 2.99 and have watched it five times. I love the musical numbers!
LiquidSky
08-13-09, 07:16 AM
Oooh, another one I liked was the German skin head movie. Skin Gang? Though the porno version was better. :D
Yeah, I saw the xxx version too. :D
Giles
08-13-09, 08:33 AM
Here is a title I would recommend for any non-homophobic film lover. Connie and Carla
I found it new recently for 2.99 and have watched it five times. I love the musical numbers!
oh that's the one that has Dash Mihok
Dash - :drool:
Giles
08-13-09, 08:43 AM
since the thread's popped up again (pun intended)
I watched Fassbinder's Fox and His Friends last night and was very impressed. I must admit I was completely clueless that Rainer also played the lead - he was cute back in 1975. Anyhow, the film was stunning, from the top notch acting and evocative cinematographer that makes the viewer almost seem too voyeuristic. The character of Eugen was such a shit, well come to think nearly everyone was flawed (that's a positive by the way), if I had a boyfriend like Eugen I would have kicked him in the teeth.
I should rewatch 'Querelle' which I haven't seen in a loooong time - it's my understanding that the DVD is the slightly longer international cut of the film.
Giles
08-19-09, 09:21 AM
I've been rewatching 'Tales of the City' which is a rivetting 1993 miniseries produced by the UK's Channel Four and originally aired on PBS. I know the story and how it all ends but it has its charms, from it's multitude of characters and interweaving storylines, it's like reconnecting with old friends. While it has a cast of familiar faces, Olympia Dukakis, Laura Linney, Thomas Gibson, it's also the ancillary side characters who pop up: Parker Posey, Sir Ian McKellen, Michael Jeter - it really is a remarkable cast. The great audio commentary which includes the director, the writer Armistead Maupin, Olympia and Laura sadly it's only confined to episodes 1, 3 and 6.
LiquidSky
08-19-09, 10:32 AM
I've been rewatching 'Tales of the City' which is a rivetting 1993 miniseries produced by the UK's Channel Four and originally aired on PBS. I know the story and how it all ends but it has its charms, from it's multitude of characters and interweaving storylines, it's like reconnecting with old friends. While it has a cast of familiar faces, Olympia Dukakis, Laura Linney, Thomas Gibson, it's also the ancillary side characters who pop up: Parker Posey, Sir Ian McKellen, Michael Jeter - it really is a remarkable cast. The great audio commentary which includes the director, the writer Armistead Maupin, Olympia and Laura sadly it's only confined to episodes 1, 3 and 6.
I loaned this to a friend recently. She and her daughter loved it. :)
joeblow69
08-19-09, 11:34 AM
I loaned this to a friend recently. She and her daughter loved it. :)
I loved this as well. .. More tales is also good, but I couldn't get into Futher Tales.
One of these series replaced the actor that played Mouse with some ugly guy, which is a bit of a downer.
Giles
08-19-09, 12:03 PM
yeah Marcus D'Amico was great and so irrestiably cute as Mouse (I'd love to hear his native British accent, he does the American 'yokel thang' quite well) as was Paul Gross (Brian) ("hubba, hubba") it was too bad neither returned for either 'More Tales' / 'Further Tales'. It's interesting to note that they two as well as Chloe Webb continue in TV for the most part, but never made it to the big screen as Laura Linney did.
Flicker
08-19-09, 02:07 PM
oh that's the one that has Dash Mihok
Dash - :drool:
I'm not familiar with him or his character in the movie. I'll have to check iMDB.
The only one of his that I ever recommend is <b>SUGAR</b> with Brendan Fehr and Andre Noble.
Personally I hated 'Sugar.' I think it was just a little to dark and disturbing.
I've been rewatching 'Tales of the City' which is a rivetting 1993 miniseries produced by the UK's Channel Four and originally aired on PBS. I know the story and how it all ends but it has its charms, from it's multitude of characters and interweaving storylines, it's like reconnecting with old friends. While it has a cast of familiar faces, Olympia Dukakis, Laura Linney, Thomas Gibson, it's also the ancillary side characters who pop up: Parker Posey, Sir Ian McKellen, Michael Jeter - it really is a remarkable cast. The great audio commentary which includes the director, the writer Armistead Maupin, Olympia and Laura sadly it's only confined to episodes 1, 3 and 6.
I love that miniseries and all of the sequel's. I read all the books (there are seven now) throughout high school and for some reason these characters stuck with me. Personally I think the original miniseries is the best produced, but thought "more tales..." was more fun/adventurous.
If your a fan of the books and havn't checked out the "reunion" - 'Michael Tolliver Lives' you really should - it's pretty interesting to see what happens to everyone 20 years later.
Giles
08-20-09, 12:46 PM
I love that miniseries and all of the sequel's. I read all the books (there are seven now) throughout high school and for some reason these characters stuck with me. Personally I think the original miniseries is the best produced, but thought "more tales..." was more fun/adventurous.
If your a fan of the books and havn't checked out the "reunion" - 'Michael Tolliver Lives' you really should - it's pretty interesting to see what happens to everyone 20 years later.
I just ordered 'Michael Tolliver Lives' from Amazon, and I added 'More Tales and 'Further Tales on my Netflix queue, I saw a coupld episodes of 'More...' but not all of it.
LiquidSky
08-20-09, 02:10 PM
If your a fan of the books and havn't checked out the "reunion" - 'Michael Tolliver Lives' you really should - it's pretty interesting to see what happens to everyone 20 years later.
It's sitting on my bookshelf waiting to be read. :)
just watched a movie called "Bear City" - which the director notes in the commentary as 'Sex and the City' ... with burly hairy guys in the key roles. The story revolves around a young New Yorker (non-bear) Tyler who has a secret, his crush on hirsute guys. He meets a guy online and goes to his first bear bar and meets and becomes friends with some of it's patrons. The cast is fun, but the plot and some of the scriptwriting seems a bit cliched at times, but the humour and charm are the highlight of the film. It's also great to see an American movie made about the bear community.
on the technical side of the DVD: the 5.1 surround sound mix is really not that good, it's all off balance nearly all the sound is coming from the center, left and left surround, not to the mention the dialogue track is mixed too low - I had to trip on the english subs just to read all the dialogue I was missing.
the commentary track is brutal not only in it's tone - it's a tad vulgar and given it's around four guys talking about the movie, it's too busy and a bit much - I gave up on it twenty minutes in.
LiquidSky
09-21-11, 07:25 AM
Hey Giles, I'll have to watch that one.
Giles
09-21-11, 08:42 AM
Hey Giles, I'll have to watch that one.
let me know what you think of the Uncle Mel shower scene - it's both erotic and insanely funny.
Giles
10-02-11, 11:35 PM
not really home video "film" related but definitely gay themed, I just saw over the weekend the new Alan (History Boys) Bennett play: 'The Habit of Art' - having it's US premier engagement at DC's Studio Theater - and one of the actors looked awfully familiar - my friend and I had a collective 'Oh' moment - "the character of Tim is played by Queer as Folks 'Justin': Randy Harrison ... oooohhh"
just watched a truly wretched movie called 'Get Your Stuff' about a gay couple who want to adopt a baby but get two kids for 'one night' as a favor for their caseworker (... chaos ensues) - what follows is truly horrible movie, the script, the acting, is beyond cringe inducing and half way through I just started doing my own MST3K riffing on it. It scores no points for plausibility and just comes across a crass R-rated after-school movie of the week. It tries to do two things at once, being a comedy AND a drama - which it fails on both levels... miserably.
just watched a truly wretched movie called 'Get Your Stuff' about a gay couple who want to adopt a baby but get two kids for 'one night' as a favor for their caseworker (... chaos ensues) - what follows is truly horrible movie, the script, the acting, is beyond cringe inducing and half way through I just started doing my own MST3K riffing on it. It scores no points for plausibility and just comes across a crass R-rated after-school movie of the week. It tries to do two things at once, being a comedy AND a drama - which it fails on both levels... miserably.
I remember getting that from netflix a couple of months ago - the only reason I think I was able to sit through the whole thing was because I had a very nasty cold and I was high on cold medicine. All I remember was about it is thinking that the video quality was worse than a DVD.
Giles
05-30-12, 11:25 AM
I remember getting that from netflix a couple of months ago - the only reason I think I was able to sit through the whole thing was because I had a very nasty cold and I was high on cold medicine. All I remember was about it is thinking that the video quality was worse than a DVD.
yes that too. it didn't help adding more amateurishness to the overall film. Reading the Netflix reviews is more fun than the actual movie :lol:
another movie similar in premise but done 50 times better is Patrik Age 1.5
Sadly I find that with a lot of the gay themed movies out there - especially the ones available on netflix instant watch. I've actually been actively avoiding Patrik, because of "Get your Stuff", but your the second person to recommend it to me, It's on the netflix queue haha.
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