The end of Aggro-rock/rap-rock? (or, is Alt-rock music getting better?)
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The end of Aggro-rock/rap-rock? (or, is Alt-rock music getting better?)
I've been completely turned off to listening to alternative rock stations for a few years, ever since the arrival of such absolutely bottom-of-the-litter music like Limp Bizkit, P.O.D., and of course Mudvayne (worst. band. ever.). Some, like Staind and Linkin Park, are merely tolerable if often way too self-indulgently whiny. But the point is that whenever I put on an alt-rock station, there would be someone screaming. I decided to avoid incurring headaches by just not listening to the radio (some noted exceptions, however, like Tool and System of a Down).
However, I went down to LA this weekend, and decided to pick up KROQ along the way. To my surprise, the radio stations are now picking up on the "new rock" bandwagon, and are playing less aggro-rock/rap-rock. Especially, I was REALLY happy to hear bands like The Hives and The Vines getting more & more popular.
So there it is - the next wave that will destroy crappy rock is garage band with 60s Rolling Stones attitude. The Strokes, The White Stripes, The Hives, and The Vines are here! And I couldn't be more ecstatic. I can finally listen to alt-rock radio again without cringing!
Lastly, the new Red Hot Chilli Peppers song is GREAT.
However, I went down to LA this weekend, and decided to pick up KROQ along the way. To my surprise, the radio stations are now picking up on the "new rock" bandwagon, and are playing less aggro-rock/rap-rock. Especially, I was REALLY happy to hear bands like The Hives and The Vines getting more & more popular.
So there it is - the next wave that will destroy crappy rock is garage band with 60s Rolling Stones attitude. The Strokes, The White Stripes, The Hives, and The Vines are here! And I couldn't be more ecstatic. I can finally listen to alt-rock radio again without cringing!
Lastly, the new Red Hot Chilli Peppers song is GREAT.
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I hope and pray you're right. I was thinking about this yesterday and how it seems this new-metal trend is just getting worse and not better. I hope it has peaked. Friday night here in Atlanta the local commercial alternative station brought in Nickelback and 35,000 people showed up (free concert). Icky.
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Re: The end of Aggro-rock/rap-rock? (or, is Alt-rock music getting better?)
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and of course Mudvayne (worst. band. ever.)
and of course Mudvayne (worst. band. ever.)
You forgot about Slipknot. They royally blow.
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I really have no concern anymore for what's playing on the radio and what is cool....I'm still listening to the same bands I have for, what, almost 10 years? (Pearl Jam, Counting Crows, Mazzy Star, The Verve, Weezer...) Lately there has been very few that have piqued my interest but for Pete Yorn, The Strokes, Ryan Adams, and a few more. The bands now either sound like Alice and Chains with Eddie Vedder signing or Korn or a generic hybrid of the two....I talk like I'm 50, but I'm only 24...Either way the rock these days is just horrid.
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I really have no concern anymore for what's playing on the radio and what is cool
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I don't know about the end of the trend (I personally really like bands like disturbed, sevendust, mudvayne etc) but also love Hendrix, Grateful Dead, Motley Crue (& all the hair bands) along with Wu Tang and Das Efx and rap music.
I get annoyed at the lack of variety of most radio stations but that's what cd's are for. Personally bands like the strokes and hives and white stripes are just boring to me.
I get annoyed at the lack of variety of most radio stations but that's what cd's are for. Personally bands like the strokes and hives and white stripes are just boring to me.
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Originally posted by atlantamoi
I hope and pray you're right. I was thinking about this yesterday and how it seems this new-metal trend is just getting worse and not better. I hope it has peaked. Friday night here in Atlanta the local commercial alternative station brought in Nickelback and 35,000 people showed up (free concert). Icky.
I hope and pray you're right. I was thinking about this yesterday and how it seems this new-metal trend is just getting worse and not better. I hope it has peaked. Friday night here in Atlanta the local commercial alternative station brought in Nickelback and 35,000 people showed up (free concert). Icky.
G-Love was pretty cool, though. : )
As for the upcoming shows, N.E.R.D. is playing. I'm going to see them, for sure. I guess some might pile them in the rap-rock bin, but they're really a hiphop act. Entertaining guys, whatever the case.
(and yes, TMBG will be great to see again, too!)
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Re: The end of Aggro-rock/rap-rock? (or, is Alt-rock music getting better?)
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Lastly, the new Red Hot Chilli Peppers song is GREAT.
Lastly, the new Red Hot Chilli Peppers song is GREAT.
Too bad radio will play it into the ground in a matter of weeks.
Hearing Anthony Kiedis' voice these days is akin to fingernails on a chalkboard for me.
Way. Way. Overplayed.
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G-Love was pretty cool, though. : )
G-Love was pretty cool, though. : )
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the radio sucks and always will. i can feel your pain about nu-metal. few bands are good and the ones that suck with one ok song, all get played waaaay too much.
if you do like metal and just sick of the overplay check out flybanger, i haven't heard them ever on the radio, picked up their cd for 9 bucks at best buy a few months ago and i really enjoy the cd, the whole cd!
then there is soulfly, i love soulfly.
if you do like metal and just sick of the overplay check out flybanger, i haven't heard them ever on the radio, picked up their cd for 9 bucks at best buy a few months ago and i really enjoy the cd, the whole cd!
then there is soulfly, i love soulfly.
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Re: Re: The end of Aggro-rock/rap-rock? (or, is Alt-rock music getting better?)
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You forgot about Slipknot. They royally blow.
You forgot about Slipknot. They royally blow.
As for the guy dissin' RHCP, I happen to like them before, and I like them now. To me, "By the Way" reminds me more of the 1st single to the horrid album "One Hot Minute", with the harmony that the guys have perfected on Californication.
Lostatmidnight - I hear ya pal. I'm 24 as well For the longest time I couldn't listen to the radio, and as such I just slink back to my usual Weezer, Radiohead, Bjork, Godspeed You Black Emperor, etc.). But I really like The White Stripes, The Hives & The Strokes.
Plus, it's always a joy to me whenever I hear "Keep Fishin'" on the radio (until it's overplayed like Hash Pipe)
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So, as a non-radio-listening, non-tv-watching guy who likes good music but has all but given up on the new stuff, How might I sample the White Stripes, The Hives, and The Others you've made mention of here? Best album from each? Musically similar to....?
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Originally posted by Grimfarrow
Oh yeah. Slipknot IS indeed utterly crappy.
As for the guy dissin' RHCP, I happen to like them before, and I like them now. To me, "By the Way" reminds me more of the 1st single to the horrid album "One Hot Minute", with the harmony that the guys have perfected on Californication.
Lostatmidnight - I hear ya pal. I'm 24 as well For the longest time I couldn't listen to the radio, and as such I just slink back to my usual Weezer, Radiohead, Bjork, Godspeed You Black Emperor, etc.). But I really like The White Stripes, The Hives & The Strokes.
Oh yeah. Slipknot IS indeed utterly crappy.
As for the guy dissin' RHCP, I happen to like them before, and I like them now. To me, "By the Way" reminds me more of the 1st single to the horrid album "One Hot Minute", with the harmony that the guys have perfected on Californication.
Lostatmidnight - I hear ya pal. I'm 24 as well For the longest time I couldn't listen to the radio, and as such I just slink back to my usual Weezer, Radiohead, Bjork, Godspeed You Black Emperor, etc.). But I really like The White Stripes, The Hives & The Strokes.
I like RHCP so much I won't even say "One Hot Minute" was horrid . It's not as good as some others, but I still like it heh.
And add me to the list of 24 year olds that hate the radio and still listen to the stuff from the early to mid 90's. Only problem for me in this debate is that the music you speak of to "come along and kill aggro rock"...well I hate that crap too Ah well, that's why I have an mp3 player in the car.
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am i the only one who actually listens to the radio on a regular basis.
am i the only one who actually listens to the radio on a regular basis.
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Originally posted by TeeSeeJay
So, as a non-radio-listening, non-tv-watching guy who likes good music but has all but given up on the new stuff, How might I sample the White Stripes, The Hives, and The Others you've made mention of here? Best album from each? Musically similar to....?
So, as a non-radio-listening, non-tv-watching guy who likes good music but has all but given up on the new stuff, How might I sample the White Stripes, The Hives, and The Others you've made mention of here? Best album from each? Musically similar to....?
The White Stripes - self-titled debut
The new album, White Blood Cells, is getting all the hype, and it is a very good album, but their debut from a few years ago is just effin' brilliant.
The Hives - Veni Vidi Vicious
Been out in the UK and Europe for over a year but just got a US release late last year. Pure garage punk rock fun with attitude to spare.
...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead - Source Tags & Codes
Their new album is raw, powerful and a great hybrid of emo and garage punk.
The Strokes - Is This It
The critical darlings of the neo garage movement, and while they are quite good, try to ignore the hype as it is impossible to live up to.
Another plus, these can usually be had for a great price. I got The White Stripes and Trail of Dead both for $10 each, new, sealed.
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Originally posted by RevLiver
Go out and buy these CDs right now:
The White Stripes - self-titled debut
The new album, White Blood Cells, is getting all the hype, and it is a very good album, but their debut from a few years ago is just effin' brilliant.
The Hives - Veni Vidi Vicious
Been out in the UK and Europe for over a year but just got a US release late last year. Pure garage punk rock fun with attitude to spare.
...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead - Source Tags & Codes
Their new album is raw, powerful and a great hybrid of emo and garage punk.
The Strokes - Is This It
The critical darlings of the neo garage movement, and while they are quite good, try to ignore the hype as it is impossible to live up to.
Another plus, these can usually be had for a great price. I got The White Stripes and Trail of Dead both for $10 each, new, sealed.
D
Go out and buy these CDs right now:
The White Stripes - self-titled debut
The new album, White Blood Cells, is getting all the hype, and it is a very good album, but their debut from a few years ago is just effin' brilliant.
The Hives - Veni Vidi Vicious
Been out in the UK and Europe for over a year but just got a US release late last year. Pure garage punk rock fun with attitude to spare.
...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead - Source Tags & Codes
Their new album is raw, powerful and a great hybrid of emo and garage punk.
The Strokes - Is This It
The critical darlings of the neo garage movement, and while they are quite good, try to ignore the hype as it is impossible to live up to.
Another plus, these can usually be had for a great price. I got The White Stripes and Trail of Dead both for $10 each, new, sealed.
D
"...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead" -- Is that the name of the band? Is that listed under "A" or what?
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Listening to Trail of Dead right now. The Hives and the Strokes have finished the first run-through. Didn't find the White Stripes first album at my local neighborhood Best Buy today, so it'll have to wait.
This stuff is pretty good. I swear I've heard a couple of these songs somewhere. The Hives' "I Hate to say i told you so" I've heard before and thought it was great. Whoo.
Thanks, guys. Who are these "The Vines" you keep referring to?
This stuff is pretty good. I swear I've heard a couple of these songs somewhere. The Hives' "I Hate to say i told you so" I've heard before and thought it was great. Whoo.
Thanks, guys. Who are these "The Vines" you keep referring to?
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Originally posted by Grimfarrow
Good list, Darin! But you forgot Doves' "The Last Broadcast" and The Vines' upcoming album
np: PPK - Resurrection
Good list, Darin! But you forgot Doves' "The Last Broadcast" and The Vines' upcoming album
np: PPK - Resurrection
And I'll be getting the Vines' disc as soon as it's out.
Allow me to also recommend:
Clinic - Walking With Thee
I think this is the best disc released so far this year. I don't know if Best Buy would have it, so you may have to check your local indie music store, but it's well worth it. Sort of a combination of Radiohead experimentalism with punk. In fact, they opened for Radiohead in Europe. Going to see them at the end of the month in Philadelphia.
The Notwist - Neon Golden
More experimental stuff, mixing acoustic and electronics to great effect. Also an indie release that Best Buy is not likely to have.
Cornelius - Point
Crazy wacked out Japanese noisepunk and experimental electronics, with samples from cartoons and the like. Can't wait to see this guy in NYC in August, should be insane.