Marilyn Manson?
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Re: Marilyn Manson?
Originally posted by Day Lahs
who here is a marilyn fan?
who here is a marilyn fan?
I've seen him 7 times in concert. Not necessarily for the music (which live tends to be a sludgy, tuneless white ball of noise), but rather for the Grand Guignol, Alice Cooper-at-his-height type theatrics.
I first caught Manson by accident as one of the opening acts for NIN. After that, I saw nearly every show that was near me simply because I knew he'd put on an entertaining set.
It's sort of the same reason I try not to miss Rob Zombie in concert. The visuals, the stage props, the completely over-the-top pyrotechnics, the giant killer robots - it's like live WWF wrestling without all the mullets and fake body-slams.
You know - stuff you wouldn't ever see at say a Creed concert.
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I'd say the same thing to Manson's face that I'm saying to all of you: I think he's brilliant, and at the same time, I don't like his music at all. Somebody in rock should do (HAS to do) what Manson does, and they don't--so he fills a huge vacuum others are too chickenhearted to touch. It's the music world's loss.
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I like his stuff... when Rasputina sings it. I have to admit I've never really tried giving him a chance, but the songs they cover/work with him on are pretty keen.
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Originally posted by Goat3001
Some of his stuff is good to listen to some of his stuff isn't.
Some of his stuff is good to listen to some of his stuff isn't.
i agree with this....i like some and dont like other stuf....i did see him live once though and it was a damn good show
i also completely agree with what grunter said about rob zombie...he puts on one amazing show
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Seen them live once.
I have all their albums too...
One of my fav albums of all time is Antichrist Superstar.
I'm hoping a new album comes out pretty soon, but really haven't heard much. He and Trent Reznor need to get back together and create Antichrist 2 or something.
I have all their albums too...
One of my fav albums of all time is Antichrist Superstar.
I'm hoping a new album comes out pretty soon, but really haven't heard much. He and Trent Reznor need to get back together and create Antichrist 2 or something.
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Re: Re: Marilyn Manson?
Originally posted by grunter
I've seen him 7 times in concert. Not necessarily for the music (which live tends to be a sludgy, tuneless white ball of noise), but rather for the Grand Guignol, Alice Cooper-at-his-height type theatrics.
I've seen him 7 times in concert. Not necessarily for the music (which live tends to be a sludgy, tuneless white ball of noise), but rather for the Grand Guignol, Alice Cooper-at-his-height type theatrics.
It's sort of the same reason I try not to miss Rob Zombie in concert. The visuals, the stage props, the completely over-the-top pyrotechnics, the giant killer robots - it's like live WWF wrestling without all the mullets and fake body-slams.
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Originally posted by Zodo
Seen them live once.
I have all their albums too...
One of my fav albums of all time is Antichrist Superstar.
I'm hoping a new album comes out pretty soon, but really haven't heard much. He and Trent Reznor need to get back together and create Antichrist 2 or something.
Seen them live once.
I have all their albums too...
One of my fav albums of all time is Antichrist Superstar.
I'm hoping a new album comes out pretty soon, but really haven't heard much. He and Trent Reznor need to get back together and create Antichrist 2 or something.
No such luck getting back with Trent in the Studio (as far as I have heard anyway) but the new album is called "THe Golden age of Grotesque." It's somewhat thirties with manson taking on the form of some kind of burlesque character.
They just finished a reverse trilogy (holy wood, mechanical animals, ACS) and they said that now that they are finished with that chapter, they would like to try something else. As far as I have heard, the new album is going to be much more electric.
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Originally posted by das Monkey
Having seen both in concert, I find Manson to be quite inferior. I enjoyed the show, but as hard as he tries, he's no Alice Cooper.
Having seen both in concert, I find Manson to be quite inferior. I enjoyed the show, but as hard as he tries, he's no Alice Cooper.
Too bad there's not a video documentary of that tour - that I know of.
Incidentally has anyone heard that Adema song that's being (over) played on the radio? Something about the fuzzy sound of the guitar and that high-pitched keening counter-melody just screams Manson to me. I almost wish Manson would go a bit more mainstream with his sound - and this Adema tune is what I would imagine (in an ideal world) his sound evolving into. Like others above have mentioned, presentation wise and "stirring sh*t up" wise, the man's brilliant, but his music stays just a little too atonal and conventionally sludgy to really influence the minds of more mainstream youth.
(Of course, that being said "Disposable Teens" and "The Beautiful People" were tremendous singles.)
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Grunter:
The closest thing I've seen to a video of the Anti-Christ tour is a video called "Dead to the World". It concert footage of various songs off the Anti-Christ album with odd stuff in between songs...like christian protesters outside the concert, and some rather freaky stuff as well....
Overall I'd recommend it...can read more reviews on Amazon or other places I'm sure....
The closest thing I've seen to a video of the Anti-Christ tour is a video called "Dead to the World". It concert footage of various songs off the Anti-Christ album with odd stuff in between songs...like christian protesters outside the concert, and some rather freaky stuff as well....
Overall I'd recommend it...can read more reviews on Amazon or other places I'm sure....
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Manson's done some great songs, particularly "The Beautiful People", one of the best hard rock singles in a long time. I saw him live once, opening for Nine Inch Nails and the Jim Rose Circus. I'd heard his stuff before, but 90% of the crowd hadn't. The stage was decorated with gigantic lollypops and candy canes. It was the day Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in prison, and he did a tribute to him, saying that today we freaks "had lost one of our own." About 25 minutes into their set, he began removing his clothes and was forcibly removed from the stage by arena security. A memorable show to say the least. He almost managed to "out-freak" the Jim Rose Circus.
That said, I think Manson's managed to turn himself into a joke pretty quickly. I think he's one of the more talented shock meisters music's seen in a while, so hopefully he manages to save himself from complete irrelevance. For a laugh, read this story
That said, I think Manson's managed to turn himself into a joke pretty quickly. I think he's one of the more talented shock meisters music's seen in a while, so hopefully he manages to save himself from complete irrelevance. For a laugh, read this story
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i don't think i would consider myself a manson fan, but i think the entire Portrait Of An American Family album is great. i could care less about his act or persona really. i like all his popular songs that are on mtv. beautiful people, disposable teens, fight song, anti christ super star, irresponsible hate anthem, and 1996.
thought the mechanical animals album sucked bigtime.
i saw manson live in 94 heh. it was at the TLA in philly.
thought the mechanical animals album sucked bigtime.
i saw manson live in 94 heh. it was at the TLA in philly.
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Originally posted by Gsuscryst
thought the mechanical animals album sucked bigtime.
thought the mechanical animals album sucked bigtime.
I would say Holy Wood, though is a great album, is probably his weakest (not including SLC.)