Mulholland Drive review
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Mulholland Drive review
I got to rent this way early because my friend works at Blockbuster. First off, I really enjoyed this movie. Now this is a technical review of the disc and not of the movie. The anamorphic transfer is great , and the sound quality is superb , there are both dolby digital and DTS. Now the extras are what gets me, this disc is BARE BONES. All we get are cast credits and the trailer.
Which is okay, but what really gets me was no scene selection.
In my opinion this was a good movie, I am also a huge Lynch fan, I don't know what others will think. I will be buying it Apr. 9.
Which is okay, but what really gets me was no scene selection.
In my opinion this was a good movie, I am also a huge Lynch fan, I don't know what others will think. I will be buying it Apr. 9.
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I saw this in the theaters and really enjoyed it. However, since its a bare bones disc I am skeptical of buying it. I bought the first release of Memento in September and now I'm regretting it because of the upcoming two disc SE.
Does anyone know if there are any plans for a SE of Mulholland Drive? If not, then I will defintely be picking this up on April 9
Does anyone know if there are any plans for a SE of Mulholland Drive? If not, then I will defintely be picking this up on April 9
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Originally posted by Ghostface180
I saw this in the theaters and really enjoyed it. However, since its a bare bones disc I am skeptical of buying it. I bought the first release of Memento in September and now I'm regretting it because of the upcoming two disc SE.
Does anyone know if there are any plans for a SE of Mulholland Drive? If not, then I will defintely be picking this up on April 9
I saw this in the theaters and really enjoyed it. However, since its a bare bones disc I am skeptical of buying it. I bought the first release of Memento in September and now I'm regretting it because of the upcoming two disc SE.
Does anyone know if there are any plans for a SE of Mulholland Drive? If not, then I will defintely be picking this up on April 9
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My review is now up at MadmanMark.com
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I'll rent this one first. Only because I have one rule about DVDs I buy (I like to know what the movie's about after watching it. (...from what I've heard about Mulholland Dr.).
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Originally posted by Josh Z
The disc has no supplements because David Lynch does not like the idea of DVD supplements and didn't want any on this movie. There will not be a re-release.
The disc has no supplements because David Lynch does not like the idea of DVD supplements and didn't want any on this movie. There will not be a re-release.
OK JOSH, THEN WHY THE HECK IS LYNCH RELEASING A BLUE VELVET SPECIAL EDITION in May ?
I'M REALLY TIRED OF THIS RE-RELEASES!
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There definitely will be a re-release. Those who don't are entirely short-sighted. At the very least, it will be part of a Lynch box set of all (or most) of his movies, and perhaps along with a bonus disc of documentaries ala Kubric. Allen, Lynch, and Kubric are all anti-extra features, which is fine by me. Think, if they can add documentaries to Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks, they will definitely do it for Mulholland Drive, if not now, then later, guaranteed.
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Originally posted by brainstormed
There definitely will be a re-release. Those who don't are entirely short-sighted. At the very least, it will be part of a Lynch box set of all (or most) of his movies, and perhaps along with a bonus disc of documentaries ala Kubric. Allen, Lynch, and Kubric are all anti-extra features, which is fine by me. Think, if they can add documentaries to Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks, they will definitely do it for Mulholland Drive, if not now, then later, guaranteed.
There definitely will be a re-release. Those who don't are entirely short-sighted. At the very least, it will be part of a Lynch box set of all (or most) of his movies, and perhaps along with a bonus disc of documentaries ala Kubric. Allen, Lynch, and Kubric are all anti-extra features, which is fine by me. Think, if they can add documentaries to Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks, they will definitely do it for Mulholland Drive, if not now, then later, guaranteed.
Mulholland Drive = Universal
Straight Story = Walt Disney
Lost Highway = Polygram
Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me = New Line
Wild at Heart = Polygram
Blue Velvet = MGM
Dune = Universal
Elephant Man = Paramount
Eraserhead = Columbia Tristar (but Lynch apparently owns it now)
With 9 films by 7 different distributors for the US rights of his films, I wouldn't look for a Lynch Box Set anytime in the near future!
cheers, Tony Block
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Originally posted by Tony Block
Mulholland Drive = Universal
Straight Story = Walt Disney
Lost Highway = Polygram
Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me = New Line
Wild at Heart = Polygram
Blue Velvet = MGM
Dune = Universal
Elephant Man = Paramount
Eraserhead = Columbia Tristar (but Lynch apparently owns it now)
With 9 films by 7 different distributors for the US rights of his films, I wouldn't look for a Lynch Box Set anytime in the near future!
cheers, Tony Block
Mulholland Drive = Universal
Straight Story = Walt Disney
Lost Highway = Polygram
Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me = New Line
Wild at Heart = Polygram
Blue Velvet = MGM
Dune = Universal
Elephant Man = Paramount
Eraserhead = Columbia Tristar (but Lynch apparently owns it now)
With 9 films by 7 different distributors for the US rights of his films, I wouldn't look for a Lynch Box Set anytime in the near future!
cheers, Tony Block
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Originally posted by Carl Spackler
OK JOSH, THEN WHY THE HECK IS LYNCH RELEASING A BLUE VELVET SPECIAL EDITION in May ?
OK JOSH, THEN WHY THE HECK IS LYNCH RELEASING A BLUE VELVET SPECIAL EDITION in May ?
The Mulholland Drive DVD's transfer has been supervised by Lynch, so he will not have a need to remaster it down the line unless there is a quantum leap in video transfer technology at some point.
Despite it's one Oscar nomination, Mulholland Drive is not a high-interest title among the general DVD buying public. This is not a Mummy or American Pie. There will not be an Ultimate Edition coming in three months.
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I may be mistaken, but wasn't Lynch trying to rally support to get the deleted scenes on the Fire Walk With Me disc? He was supporting a special edition there, from what I could see, unless I read wrong information and the studio was trying to do it all without him.
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Originally posted by Josh Z
Despite it's one Oscar nomination, Mulholland Drive is not a high-interest title among the general DVD buying public. This is not a Mummy or American Pie. There will not be an Ultimate Edition coming in three months.
Despite it's one Oscar nomination, Mulholland Drive is not a high-interest title among the general DVD buying public. This is not a Mummy or American Pie. There will not be an Ultimate Edition coming in three months.
I think this part bears further discussion. We're approaching the five year mark on the life of DVD, and I think that's finally enough time for the format to have a "history" Take a look at the titles that have received double dips, and you'll see a precedent. Titles that have been dd'ed are big ones, important ones, ones that are either big blockbusters like the Terminator movies, or small blockbusters, like the Evil Dead movies.
Now David Lynch may have a rabid following, but I don't think it's very big. He has gone on record as saying he doesn't like to do supplements. I think you may safely buy Mulholland Drive now.
Now, who do we need to beat about the kneecaps to get an SE of Lynch's Dune? I'm sure Josh will agree with me that the TV version is a must-include supplement
And even if they aren't in that form, there has to be hours of deleted scenes that could be included. I don't think Lynch would object to that, since he did want the deleted scenes on Fire Walk With Me, Newline just wouldn't pony up the dough.
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if new line didn't have the LOTR franchise
I would boycott their product for the crap they pulled with the FWWM disc. Why wouldn't those cheap bastards scrape together 50,000 for a proper DVD release.
When I think about all that unseen FIRE WALK WITH ME footage it makes me weep.
I would boycott their product for the crap they pulled with the FWWM disc. Why wouldn't those cheap bastards scrape together 50,000 for a proper DVD release.
When I think about all that unseen FIRE WALK WITH ME footage it makes me weep.
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I may be mistaken, but wasn't Lynch trying to rally support to get the deleted scenes on the Fire Walk With Me disc? He was supporting a special edition there, from what I could see, unless I read wrong information and the studio was trying to do it all without him.
I may be mistaken, but wasn't Lynch trying to rally support to get the deleted scenes on the Fire Walk With Me disc? He was supporting a special edition there, from what I could see, unless I read wrong information and the studio was trying to do it all without him.
Personally I don't see a Mulholland Drive SE anytime soon unless in a couple years he releases it on his own ala the short films and Eraserhead.
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Originally posted by calhoun07
I may be mistaken, but wasn't Lynch trying to rally support to get the deleted scenes on the Fire Walk With Me disc? He was supporting a special edition there,
I may be mistaken, but wasn't Lynch trying to rally support to get the deleted scenes on the Fire Walk With Me disc? He was supporting a special edition there,
What Lynch does not like are supplements that attempt to explain his movies or demonstrate how they were made, which basically means almost all other forms of DVD supplements.
There are not likely to ever be mini-Mulholland Drive movies, because the movie does not lend itself to that. What I would personally have liked to see is an explanation for how the movie was turned from a TV pilot into a theatrical feature, but that is not the type of information that Lynch wants to divulge, believing that it destroys the mystery of the filmmaking process.
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Now, who do we need to beat about the kneecaps to get an SE of Lynch's Dune?
Now, who do we need to beat about the kneecaps to get an SE of Lynch's Dune?
I'm sure Josh will agree with me that the TV version is a must-include supplement
And even if they aren't in that form, there has to be hours of deleted scenes that could be included. I don't think Lynch would object to that, since he did want the deleted scenes on Fire Walk With Me, Newline just wouldn't pony up the dough.
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Josh, I've scoured Google and other sites trying to find info on Lynch's Dune and I've found two things: your name pops up a lot, and nobody is certain of anything.
I do remember seeing a quote from Frank Herbert about a four hour cut of the film that did justice to the book, but then it was released theatricaly at only 2:17. The context of the Herbert quote makes me think it has some validity, but who knows.
What is your take on a longer cut? I've heard of the 8 hour cut and agree that it's probably just an urban legend, but a four hour cut I could believe.
And if Lynch has washed his hands of Dune, what would be the harm of remastering the theatrical release (16x9, DTS), and including a second disc of hours of deleted scenes? I would have thought that Universal might have tried to take advantage of the re-release of the Scifi mini-series, or this seeming Lynch revival I'm seeing all over the net, and put out some kind of new Dune DVD.
But I guess there's more American Pie to schlock out to the masses
Boy, we've hijacked this haven't we?
I do remember seeing a quote from Frank Herbert about a four hour cut of the film that did justice to the book, but then it was released theatricaly at only 2:17. The context of the Herbert quote makes me think it has some validity, but who knows.
What is your take on a longer cut? I've heard of the 8 hour cut and agree that it's probably just an urban legend, but a four hour cut I could believe.
And if Lynch has washed his hands of Dune, what would be the harm of remastering the theatrical release (16x9, DTS), and including a second disc of hours of deleted scenes? I would have thought that Universal might have tried to take advantage of the re-release of the Scifi mini-series, or this seeming Lynch revival I'm seeing all over the net, and put out some kind of new Dune DVD.
But I guess there's more American Pie to schlock out to the masses
Boy, we've hijacked this haven't we?
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Originally posted by milo bloom
Josh, I've scoured Google and other sites trying to find info on Lynch's Dune and I've found two things: your name pops up a lot, and nobody is certain of anything.
I do remember seeing a quote from Frank Herbert about a four hour cut of the film that did justice to the book, but then it was released theatricaly at only 2:17. The context of the Herbert quote makes me think it has some validity, but who knows.
What is your take on a longer cut? I've heard of the 8 hour cut and agree that it's probably just an urban legend, but a four hour cut I could believe.
Josh, I've scoured Google and other sites trying to find info on Lynch's Dune and I've found two things: your name pops up a lot, and nobody is certain of anything.
I do remember seeing a quote from Frank Herbert about a four hour cut of the film that did justice to the book, but then it was released theatricaly at only 2:17. The context of the Herbert quote makes me think it has some validity, but who knows.
What is your take on a longer cut? I've heard of the 8 hour cut and agree that it's probably just an urban legend, but a four hour cut I could believe.
It is not unusual for a rough assembly to run over 4 hours, but unfortunately the ambiguity of Herbert's comment has caused all sorts of rumors about a mythical "director's cut".
The fact of the matter is that David Lynch was under contract to deliver a movie under 2 1/2 hours long. He knew this all along and planned for it. In fact, he was actually forced by the producers to stop filming certain scenes in the script when it was determined that the movie didn't have time for them. That's why you can see Harrah and her two children (a big subplot in the book) in the background of scenes, but they are never pointed out in the movie.
Lynch does overshoot his movies, and there is certainly footage that didn't make it into Dune, but after speaking to someone who worked on the crew I am lead to believe there is really no more than an extra half-hour that could be added.
Think about it, too. If there were really tons of extra scenes lying around, why didn't MCA use them for their TV re-edit? I'm pretty sure that MCA used every scrap of footage they could piece together for the TV cut (incompetant though it may be). That version runs, minus commercials, barely three hours long, and a good portion of that consists of the long cartoon prologue, dual opening and closing credits, plot recap at the beginning of part 2, and numerous "special effects" shots (including cartoon inserts) that they repeated over and over again.
And if Lynch has washed his hands of Dune, what would be the harm of remastering the theatrical release (16x9, DTS), and including a second disc of hours of deleted scenes?
I agree, and I'd love to see it. When asked, Universal has said that they have considered doing something like that, but the title is just not a priority for them.
At the very least, they ought to do an anamorphic/DTS remaster (the Australian DVD has a DTS track, so some of the work has already been done!).
I would have thought that Universal might have tried to take advantage of the re-release of the Scifi mini-series, or this seeming Lynch revival I'm seeing all over the net, and put out some kind of new Dune DVD.
These days, Universal is not opposed to revisiting movies of this nature (see Legend), but they prefer to have the filmmaker's assistance. Since Lynch is unwilling to participate, they haven't tried to take the first step on their own.
Boy, we've hijacked this haven't we?
We can continue the Dune talk in another forum, or feel free to email me: [email protected]
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I was "eyeing" this movie at Best Buy but didn't go for the purchase due to my reservations about how nonsensical and ridiculous many of Lynch's movies have been. For anyone that has viewed this movie, is the movie one big mind f*%k, or is there actually some plausible storyline and acting? Comments appreciated.
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Originally posted by thgord
I was "eyeing" this movie at Best Buy but didn't go for the purchase due to my reservations about how nonsensical and ridiculous many of Lynch's movies have been. For anyone that has viewed this movie, is the movie one big mind f*%k, or is there actually some plausible storyline and acting? Comments appreciated.
I was "eyeing" this movie at Best Buy but didn't go for the purchase due to my reservations about how nonsensical and ridiculous many of Lynch's movies have been. For anyone that has viewed this movie, is the movie one big mind f*%k, or is there actually some plausible storyline and acting? Comments appreciated.
it's one big mind fu*k...
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Originally posted by thgord
I was "eyeing" this movie at Best Buy but didn't go for the purchase due to my reservations about how nonsensical and ridiculous many of Lynch's movies have been. For anyone that has viewed this movie, is the movie one big mind f*%k, or is there actually some plausible storyline and acting? Comments appreciated.
I was "eyeing" this movie at Best Buy but didn't go for the purchase due to my reservations about how nonsensical and ridiculous many of Lynch's movies have been. For anyone that has viewed this movie, is the movie one big mind f*%k, or is there actually some plausible storyline and acting? Comments appreciated.
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Originally posted by Josh Z
To bring us back on topic a little, last night I completed my novel-length review of the Mulholland Drive disc. It should be posted to DVDFile in the next day or so.
To bring us back on topic a little, last night I completed my novel-length review of the Mulholland Drive disc. It should be posted to DVDFile in the next day or so.
Nice review by the way. It was nice to see your comment on the chapter stops. Still seems really silly to me.
I haven't seen this yet, but ended up buying the DVD because I've read a lot of positive things about it and it sounds like a challenge. Maybe I'll get around to picking up Lost Highway one of these days too.
Todd Doogan over at the Bits reviewed it too, and mentioned a (SPOILER FILLED) Salon.com analysis of the movie. Have you seen this?
-David
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Nice review by the way.
Nice review by the way.
I haven't seen this yet, but ended up buying the DVD because I've read a lot of positive things about it and it sounds like a challenge. Maybe I'll get around to picking up Lost Highway one of these days too.
Todd Doogan over at the Bits reviewed it too, and mentioned a Salon.com analysis of the movie. Have you seen this?
Todd Doogan over at the Bits reviewed it too, and mentioned a Salon.com analysis of the movie. Have you seen this?
Basically, I don't care much for articles written in this know-it-all, going-to-explain-it-all-away tone, because they are begging for someone to step in and contradict them. I think that the interpretation of what the movie means should be left up to the viewer. Discussing it with others is great, but I would never write an article with the intention of spelling it out as if I had the definitive answers. That's why I made sure that my review, although extremely long and involved, is all about the context and general themes of the movie but has minimal plot spoilers.