Microsoft Shuts down PS2 at German Technology show
03-18-02, 03:27 PM
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I know it's a petty thing, but MS had every right to complain if PS2 was in violation of the rules, which they were. I'm confused about the writer, he seems to think MS was breaking the rules as well but the way it's written, they actually weren't. The rules are against hands-on, playable demos, which Sony was doing. MS on the other hand was "demonstrating the Xbox to show-goers", which implies a hands-off approach.
03-18-02, 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by Gallant Pig
I know it's a petty thing, but MS had every right to complain if PS2 was in violation of the rules, which they were. I'm confused about the writer, he seems to think MS was breaking the rules as well but the way it's written, they actually weren't. The rules are against hands-on, playable demos, which Sony was doing. MS on the other hand was "demonstrating the Xbox to show-goers", which implies a hands-off approach.
I know it's a petty thing, but MS had every right to complain if PS2 was in violation of the rules, which they were. I'm confused about the writer, he seems to think MS was breaking the rules as well but the way it's written, they actually weren't. The rules are against hands-on, playable demos, which Sony was doing. MS on the other hand was "demonstrating the Xbox to show-goers", which implies a hands-off approach.
03-18-02, 08:00 PM
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My only problem with this is...
That M$ lied about doing it. If you want to cry about a stupid rule being broken then at least admit to it when asked. It was bad PR to lie and then have the truth come out after the fact, it just shows that M$ will do anything and say anything they wish.
03-18-02, 08:02 PM
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...a huge multinational American company puts the screws to a huge multinational Japanese company....this is business in the 21st century and I feel sorrow for none of them. I like quality games on quality systems and the better the competition the better they have to be to succeed. I welcome MS in the business because someone has to keep Sony and the PS2 on its toes and it ain't gonna be Nintendo.
...oh, and don't decieve yourself that Nintendo is all warm and cuddly either, they are as fierce a competitor as anyone and would gladly drive MS and Sony into the ground if they had the muscle or the money. The virtual monopoly that the big N has on the handheld videogame market was not by accident and circumstance alone.
The only one that leaves me with a warm fuzzy is Sega, and that is just nostalga...
...oh, and don't decieve yourself that Nintendo is all warm and cuddly either, they are as fierce a competitor as anyone and would gladly drive MS and Sony into the ground if they had the muscle or the money. The virtual monopoly that the big N has on the handheld videogame market was not by accident and circumstance alone.
The only one that leaves me with a warm fuzzy is Sega, and that is just nostalga...
03-18-02, 08:59 PM
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I think they left out part of the story.
My guess is when the Xbox team saw what Fony was doing they gave the signal to the drivers to back the Xbox semis into the building to start setting up the inflatable Odyssey Dome.
Then Fony said "Uncle" and turned off the two 19" Trinitrons they had running.
My guess is when the Xbox team saw what Fony was doing they gave the signal to the drivers to back the Xbox semis into the building to start setting up the inflatable Odyssey Dome.
Then Fony said "Uncle" and turned off the two 19" Trinitrons they had running.
03-18-02, 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Zinc
The only one that leaves me with a warm fuzzy is Sega, and that is just nostalga...
The only one that leaves me with a warm fuzzy is Sega, and that is just nostalga...
EDIT: Just looked at GameSpot, they turned the story around and made Sony look like the bad guy. For Shame!
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03-19-02, 12:26 AM
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Not surprised. Microsoft will do anything to win.
One of the big reasons why I just can not pull the trigger on an Xbox.
Now the GC I am thinking about. I may get one in time for the XMas games
. I am looking forward to the GC game announcements at E3.
One of the big reasons why I just can not pull the trigger on an Xbox.
Now the GC I am thinking about. I may get one in time for the XMas games
. I am looking forward to the GC game announcements at E3.
03-19-02, 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by Zinc
The only one that leaves me with a warm fuzzy is Sega, and that is just nostalga...
The only one that leaves me with a warm fuzzy is Sega, and that is just nostalga...
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03-19-02, 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by Keyser Soze
That's the same feeling I'm going to have in a few years (I'll give it 3) when Bill and his box sink! Maybe I'll pick one up on eBay for 60 bucks then. I just can't wait till E3.
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That's the same feeling I'm going to have in a few years (I'll give it 3) when Bill and his box sink! Maybe I'll pick one up on eBay for 60 bucks then. I just can't wait till E3.
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03-19-02, 07:32 AM
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Another article on this (on teamxbox.com) mentioned that MS was only one of a number of companies complaining about Sony's actions.
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03-20-02, 02:31 PM
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Try to think of it this way folks...
You are the new kid on the block for consoles (MS). You read the rules for the show, and see that there are not any playable demo units allowed. You, therefore, naively do not bring any playable demo units. Once you arrive, Sony does have playable PS2 demo units set up... Would you question the officials about this rule?
C'mon folks... You can be anti-MS if you want, but they didn't do anything wrong... Sony did.
Anyhow, it wasn't ONLY MS that complained either...
You are the new kid on the block for consoles (MS). You read the rules for the show, and see that there are not any playable demo units allowed. You, therefore, naively do not bring any playable demo units. Once you arrive, Sony does have playable PS2 demo units set up... Would you question the officials about this rule?
C'mon folks... You can be anti-MS if you want, but they didn't do anything wrong... Sony did.
Anyhow, it wasn't ONLY MS that complained either...
03-20-02, 03:01 PM
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It may look like MS was just being a cry baby, but it does make sense. You would bring up the rules if you didn't know you could bring playable demos on the floor and another person does as it is an unwritten rule to break.
03-20-02, 03:32 PM
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EDIT: Just looked at GameSpot, they turned the story around and made Sony look like the bad guy. For Shame!
EDIT: Just looked at GameSpot, they turned the story around and made Sony look like the bad guy. For Shame!
03-20-02, 05:31 PM
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I think Microsoft was right on this one, the rules said that you can't bring playble demos and for some reason they let Sony do it for 3 years.....not sure how no one noticed 
(it seems kind of strange to me to just show the gaming systems, I'd want to play them unless the game was too early in development to actually play, but I guess its the nature of that particular show). What I don't get is why they lied about not informing the the show organizers when they were asked, there's no shame in that is there, because when you lie it just doesn't look good. I probably don't understand sales reps enough to know why. Anyway this is pretty insignificant but its still a funny story, the comment is funny.
(it seems kind of strange to me to just show the gaming systems, I'd want to play them unless the game was too early in development to actually play, but I guess its the nature of that particular show). What I don't get is why they lied about not informing the the show organizers when they were asked, there's no shame in that is there, because when you lie it just doesn't look good. I probably don't understand sales reps enough to know why. Anyway this is pretty insignificant but its still a funny story, the comment is funny.
