!!!ALERT!!! Crooked trader in our midst (avoid PS2Rocks)
01-21-02, 12:12 PM
#1
CineSchlock-O-Rama
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Dallas
Posts: 2,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
!!!ALERT!!! Crooked trader in our midst
Myself and IamFlip have unfulfilled trades with a Canadian DVD Talker:
PS2 Rocks ([email protected])
Alex Tabaracci
Winnipeg, Manitoba
Mine was arranged on Jan. 5th and I've received no response after dutifully sending out my end of the swap and waiting more than two weeks (Batman Vengeance for Twisted Metal Black). I was contacted via email in regard to my post in this forum. IamFlip's been waiting six weeks ... BEWARE!
removed personal info. working to resolve the bad trades
PS2 Rocks ([email protected])
Alex Tabaracci
Winnipeg, Manitoba
Mine was arranged on Jan. 5th and I've received no response after dutifully sending out my end of the swap and waiting more than two weeks (Batman Vengeance for Twisted Metal Black). I was contacted via email in regard to my post in this forum. IamFlip's been waiting six weeks ... BEWARE!
removed personal info. working to resolve the bad trades
01-21-02, 12:21 PM
#2
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: The 50th State
Posts: 2,254
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I've sent my Twisted Metal Black PS2 more than six weeks ago. He claimed he never got it. But he traded it to G. Noel Gross. I am still waiting for the games he said he sent me. 
01-21-02, 01:46 PM
#5
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Columbia, MD
Posts: 8,173
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Got an email from him Jan 18th requesting a trade for my copy of MGS2. Was offered both Twisted Metal Black and Batman Vengeance at one point or another for various games by him.
01-21-02, 01:48 PM
#6
DVD Talk Special Edition
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,044
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It is amazing how someone can do this to the founder and two highly respected members of this forum.
It also puts an unnecessarily bad name on Canadian traders (a couple have been quite notorious). I hope contact can be made with this crook.
It also puts an unnecessarily bad name on Canadian traders (a couple have been quite notorious). I hope contact can be made with this crook.
01-21-02, 01:51 PM
#7
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 3,754
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
He only had 9 posts and had only been registered since Dec 1.
Did you all ask for any verification before you aggreed to do business with him? An Ebay name? A Paypal verification? Anything?
It just seems waaaaaaaay to trusting to take the word of a new member, and do business across international lines without any sort of assurances.
(i'm not trying to play Dad, i'm just curious...)
Did you all ask for any verification before you aggreed to do business with him? An Ebay name? A Paypal verification? Anything?
It just seems waaaaaaaay to trusting to take the word of a new member, and do business across international lines without any sort of assurances.
(i'm not trying to play Dad, i'm just curious...)
01-21-02, 08:26 PM
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 540
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I almost made a deal with him too! He was trying to trade me that batman vengance for MGS2 then he claimed he had all these N64 games to trade. Get this guy off the board and make sure he never is let back in! This is redicolous. One person should not ruin for all of us good and trusted traders!
My 2 cents
My 2 cents
01-21-02, 10:29 PM
#11
Registered
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Marblehead, MA
Posts: 6,948
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by ClarkKentKY
He only had 9 posts and had only been registered since Dec 1.
Did you all ask for any verification before you aggreed to do business with him? An Ebay name? A Paypal verification? Anything?
It just seems waaaaaaaay to trusting to take the word of a new member, and do business across international lines without any sort of assurances.
He only had 9 posts and had only been registered since Dec 1.
Did you all ask for any verification before you aggreed to do business with him? An Ebay name? A Paypal verification? Anything?
It just seems waaaaaaaay to trusting to take the word of a new member, and do business across international lines without any sort of assurances.
I guess the guy didn't think that we had processes in place to deal with this. Bad trading is Mail Fraud and theft which is prosecutable. Screwing me, one of our columnists and another senior member is just asking to be made an example of. And if he doesn't straighten this out we will, I intend to press charges and make him the poster child for what happens when you screw other DVD Talkers in a bad trade.
01-21-02, 11:04 PM
#12
DVD Talk Hero - 2023 TOTY Award Winner
Originally posted by gkleinman
I guess the guy didn't think that we had processes in place to deal with this. Bad trading is Mail Fraud and theft which is prosecutable. Screwing me, one of our columnists and another senior member is just asking to be made an example of. And if he doesn't straighten this out we will, I intend to press charges and make him the poster child for what happens when you screw other DVD Talkers in a bad trade.
I guess the guy didn't think that we had processes in place to deal with this. Bad trading is Mail Fraud and theft which is prosecutable. Screwing me, one of our columnists and another senior member is just asking to be made an example of. And if he doesn't straighten this out we will, I intend to press charges and make him the poster child for what happens when you screw other DVD Talkers in a bad trade.
01-21-02, 11:22 PM
#13
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 3,754
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by gkleinman
Who would have thought someone would try to screw the owner of DVD Talk. Not me. Maybe it was naive, maybe it was over trusting, I just thought that no one would be stupid enough to pull something like this with me.
I guess the guy didn't think that we had processes in place to deal with this. Bad trading is Mail Fraud and theft which is prosecutable. Screwing me, one of our columnists and another senior member is just asking to be made an example of. And if he doesn't straighten this out we will, I intend to press charges and make him the poster child for what happens when you screw other DVD Talkers in a bad trade.
Who would have thought someone would try to screw the owner of DVD Talk. Not me. Maybe it was naive, maybe it was over trusting, I just thought that no one would be stupid enough to pull something like this with me.
I guess the guy didn't think that we had processes in place to deal with this. Bad trading is Mail Fraud and theft which is prosecutable. Screwing me, one of our columnists and another senior member is just asking to be made an example of. And if he doesn't straighten this out we will, I intend to press charges and make him the poster child for what happens when you screw other DVD Talkers in a bad trade.
No telling who else he's victimized with trades like this. By the sounds of it he was emailing ALOT of people about trades.
01-22-02, 01:52 AM
#14
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: MN
Posts: 5,949
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hey Geoff I have a copy of Spy Hunter I can get rid of, if you want it. 
Plus i have good references.
P.S this sux we need some canadian members to start cracking some heads.
Edit due to the fact it was pretty incoherent, maybe it was because I was talking to a beautiful girl at the time.
Plus i have good references. P.S this sux we need some canadian members to start cracking some heads.
Edit due to the fact it was pretty incoherent, maybe it was because I was talking to a beautiful girl at the time.
01-22-02, 02:14 AM
#15
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Maybe someone will consider my suggestion of a good traders list for this forum now. My suggestion of one is here:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=175569
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=175569
01-22-02, 03:07 AM
#16
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: The 50th State
Posts: 2,254
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
On 01/09/2002, I posted http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=173130 asking for help. A week before that, I posted something like "Anybody here traded with PS2 Rocks successfully?". Gilriz and witchblade helped track him down. But he is not listed. He e-mail me after that and said that he is still waiting for the PS2 game that I sent and I should do the same because he sent those games also as promised. What a crook!
01-22-02, 09:34 AM
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 917
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
What and idiot. It's the guys like this who are 1 in 1000 on this site that make people think twice about trading online. I hope he gets caught, and is punished accordingly for his actions.
01-22-02, 12:33 PM
#18
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: The 50th State
Posts: 2,254
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Here's an e-mail from him today:
He offered Twisted Metal Black to more than 2 traders and he is still claiming that he never got it!
"Yes I tried to trade it but never received it! So I wrote the guy
and told him I will be sending back his game for that reason. I
thought when I received the game I would ship it to him right away, but it still hasn't shown up. As for Geoff's game that was indeed sent to him and hopefully he will be getting it this week. I did receive his game, he knows that. I expect this to be all cleared up soon, with the the other two trades for sure."
and told him I will be sending back his game for that reason. I
thought when I received the game I would ship it to him right away, but it still hasn't shown up. As for Geoff's game that was indeed sent to him and hopefully he will be getting it this week. I did receive his game, he knows that. I expect this to be all cleared up soon, with the the other two trades for sure."
He offered Twisted Metal Black to more than 2 traders and he is still claiming that he never got it!
01-22-02, 04:05 PM
#19
DVD Talk Hero
Originally posted by ClarkKentKY
Did you all ask for any verification before you aggreed to do business with him? An Ebay name? A Paypal verification? Anything?
Did you all ask for any verification before you aggreed to do business with him? An Ebay name? A Paypal verification? Anything?
Everybody, please check one or both of those things (Paypal or eBay) before making ANY trade.
01-23-02, 05:17 PM
#21
DVD Talk Hero
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Hail to the Redskins!
Posts: 25,295
Likes: 0
Received 49 Likes
on
38 Posts
Geoff, much respect to you old friend, but he's Canadian, and he's not getting charged under an American federal mail fraud statute.
I will say though that ALL my bad experiences in trading and selling online have come from Canadians. I'm beginning to wonder if I should just stop dealing with those hosers
EDITED BECAUSE FIRST NAMES ARE NOT MY THING
I will say though that ALL my bad experiences in trading and selling online have come from Canadians. I'm beginning to wonder if I should just stop dealing with those hosers
EDITED BECAUSE FIRST NAMES ARE NOT MY THING
Last edited by DVD Josh; 01-23-02 at 09:41 PM.
01-23-02, 09:08 PM
#22
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 3,754
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by wfujosh
Glenn, much respect to you old friend, but he's Canadian, and he's not getting charged under an American federal mail fraud statute.
I will say though that ALL my bad experiences in trading and selling online have come from Canadians. I'm beginning to wonder if I should just stop dealing with those hosers
Glenn, much respect to you old friend, but he's Canadian, and he's not getting charged under an American federal mail fraud statute.
I will say though that ALL my bad experiences in trading and selling online have come from Canadians. I'm beginning to wonder if I should just stop dealing with those hosers
01-24-02, 11:47 AM
#23
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: J-Ville
Posts: 2,438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I've traded over 50 times but have been very hesitant as of late after getting screwed for the first time by a Canadian Trader. I was too trustworthy in the past, but never again! I hope this mess gets resolved because its starting to happen too often.
