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shaun3000
11-03-01, 11:47 PM
I've noticed the word "dick" appearing on TV, lately. No, not as in someone's name, as in describing a penis. Last I heard, this was one of the 7 words you can't say on television... what gives?

(not that I'm complaining. Censorship is suck unless it is just a blatant abuse of something, aka porn, racist remarks, gratuitious violence, etc...)

Aaron Amos
11-03-01, 11:59 PM
What TV shows? I'm wondering what TV shows this is happening on?

mikehunt
11-04-01, 12:01 AM
SNL
the new show with kim delany (isn't that her name, from nypd blue?)

shaun3000
11-04-01, 12:42 AM
Boston Public's premier. I think I heard it on Ally McBeal, as well.. not sure

Wizdar
11-04-01, 10:36 AM
"Dick" was not on George Carlin's "7 dirty words" list, although "piss" was and folks have been "pissed off" on TV for at least a couple of years now.

It's only a matter of time before they'll be using the "F" word. When that happens the only word you can't say on TV will be the "N" word. -rolleyes-

Patman
11-04-01, 10:40 AM
You can now say "ass-wipe" on TV. :)

Breakfast with Girls
11-04-01, 12:19 PM
Rapid degradation of television censorship kicks ass!

Slumbering Fist
11-04-01, 02:55 PM
The great Crow of Mystery Science Theater 3000 was fond of the alternate term "dickweed", one assumes because they were at the time not allowed to say "dick".

mee2
11-04-01, 03:27 PM
Wizdar, much to your delight they've been sying the "N" word on television for years.

John Richmond
11-04-01, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Patman
You can now say "ass-wipe" on TV. :)

Yes, but it's pronounced "ahz-wee-pay" .

Bjaarker jr

mikehunt
11-04-01, 05:30 PM
:lol:
I remember that skit

Originally posted by John Richmond


Yes, but it's pronounced "ahz-wee-pay" .

Bjaarker jr

Wizdar
11-04-01, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by mee2
Wizdar, much to your delight they've been sying the "N" word on television for years. Don't know what I did to deserve the attitude.

And while you're correct about past practices, you're not about the current situation. I neither "delight" (as you obviously infer) nor lament. I was merely pointing out the irony. Itís not a word that I would use.

mee2
11-04-01, 08:05 PM
Sorry, i thought the rolling eyes meant you thought the N word is something that should be allowed on TV.

ipkevin
11-04-01, 08:42 PM
What precisely is the irony of not being able to say the "N" word but being able to say "dick"?

Rubix
11-04-01, 08:52 PM
ben called someone a dick on felicity over a year ago i remember.

clemente
11-04-01, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Rubix
ben called someone a dick on felicity over a year ago i remember.

Yeah that right, forgot about that.

Also this past weekend, on some comedy show late night on NBC, after Conan, some woman comic used the phrase "hand job" on several occasions. But this was late late at night so the standards may be different.

Wizdar
11-04-01, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by ipkevin
What precisely is the irony of not being able to say the "N" word but being able to say "dick"? OK. I give. Since I didn't say that, this must be a new question?

kornhead
11-04-01, 09:43 PM
I read or heard somewhere that you can say dick and pus$y on tv if you're using to describe somebody or calling somebody a name. but not if you're talking about that part of the body.

ex:
can say: "Dude, you are a dick."
can't say: "Hey everybody, look at my dick"

I believe the samething goes for piss and ****. you can be "pissed off, or "shitty" about something. but you can't "take a ****" or "take a piss".

I forget where i heard that at.
anybody know if this is true?

Darren Garrison
11-04-01, 10:18 PM
Serious answer: If memory serves me, I believe it first came into use on NYPD Blue.

JaxComet
11-05-01, 11:57 AM
As far as Boston Public goes, they showed a disclaimer before the show started. It said something to the effect of "This episode contains coarse language"..........

garmonbozia
11-05-01, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by kornhead
I read or heard somewhere that you can say dick and pus$y on tv if you're using to describe somebody or calling somebody a name. but not if you're talking about that part of the body.

ex:
can say: "Dude, you are a dick."
can't say: "Hey everybody, look at my dick"

I believe the samething goes for piss and ****. you can be "pissed off, or "shitty" about something. but you can't "take a ****" or "take a piss".

I forget where i heard that at.
anybody know if this is true?

that's all pretty much true if I remember the FCC rules I had to learn to DJ in college. Those 7 words you can't say aren't just a George Carlin thing as someone pointed out above....they are FCC regulations and while "dick" isn't specifically one of them....the rule is any of these 7 or their derivations......
I don't quite remember but I think "c***sucker" is the one listed for that kind of word.
but yes, if I remember correctly....
calling someone a word like "dick" is considered different than using that word to refer to anatomy like was used on "Philly"..... the guy who plays Kim Delany's ex-husband used it a way to say "my dick" referring to his anatomy......
that was explicitly forbidden moreso than saying "he's a dick"....
same with "he's as ass" vs. "lick my ass" or something like that.

there are also certain times of day that are "safe" times...but I don't remember when they are.....perhaps as early as 10pm, thus Philly is safe for 10pm EST.....
or maybe the FCC is just more lax about things these days....
who knows?

big whoppa
11-07-01, 04:44 AM
Loosening on network's standard and practices. Not long ago, you couldn't say bitch, let alone dick.

JamesBrian
11-07-01, 07:35 AM
But they still generally bleep the "God" out of "God Damn!"

IdgIe49
11-07-01, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Darren Garrison
Serious answer: If memory serves me, I believe it first came into use on NYPD Blue.

As I flipped through the channels last night, I watched a bit of NYPD Blue - Mark Paul's character had put a bad guy :) in their police car, and the bad guy said the word Dick ... :) first time I heard it.

Neeperando
11-07-01, 03:39 PM
"Wow, we can say sh*t in school now!?!"
"This is rediculous, just because they say it on TV we can say it in school"
"Yes, but only in the figurative noun form and the adjective form."
"Huh?"
"You can only use it in the non-literal sense. For instance, 'That's a sh*tty picture of me' is now fine, however, the literal noun form of 'This is a picture of sh*t' is still naughty."
"I don't get it."
"Me neither."
"The adjective form is now also acceptable. For example, 'The weather outside is sh*tty'. However, the literal adjective is not appropriate. For example, 'My bad diarrhea made the inside of the toilet bowl sh*tty, and I had to clean it with a rag which then also became sh*tty.' That's right out."
"Sh-sh-sh*t."
"Very good, Timmy!"
-South Park, and I still can't believe that episode aired.

Groucho
11-07-01, 03:51 PM
I remember several years ago when NBC decided to allow SNL to use the word "Penis" on the show. They took advantage of the situation by doing a ridiculous skit set in a nudist colony where every other word was penis.

"Hey Bob...nice penis!"
"You penis is looking great today, Carl!"

That sort of thing. They even had a song at the end of the skit where they just repeatedly sang the word "penis" over and over again. Matthew Broderick was the guest host.

Wizdar
11-07-01, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Groucho
I remember several years ago when NBC decided to allow SNL to use the word "Penis" on the show. They took advantage of the situation by doing a ridiculous skit set in a nudist colony where every other word was penis. Wasn't that at about the time Monica was doin' Bill? Say what you want about him as a prez, at least his hijinks brought the "P" word into the media. :D

Groucho
11-07-01, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Wizdar
Wasn't that at about the time Monica was doin' Bill?

No, this was in the late eighties, I think.

mikehunt
11-07-01, 05:23 PM
did you also hear the many uses of the word ass*ole

Originally posted by IdgIe49


As I flipped through the channels last night, I watched a bit of NYPD Blue - Mark Paul's character had put a bad guy :) in their police car, and the bad guy said the word Dick ... :) first time I heard it.


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