This thread is in regards to ten "Tom & Jerry" dvds that were released in Japan. Here's a quick summary of what was available and what is currently still available for purchase.
<dl><dt>Still in print :
<dd>Between 12/17/99 and 07/14/00 ten dvds were released individually for <font color="red">2100 Yen</font> (<font color="red">~ $USD 16.22</font>). The dvds are single-sided/single-layered, and there are two audio tracks "English /Dolby Digital /Monaural" & " Japanese /Dolby Digital /Monaural". <font size="-2">(The catalog numbers for these individual dvds can be found at http://www.cdjapan.co.jp)</font>
<dd>Then on 05/18/01 the ten dvds were re-issued yet again this time in three sets with the first set containing discs 1-4, the second set discs 5-7, and the third set discs 8-10 with each set costing (<font color="red">5229 Yen</font> or <font color="red">~ $USD 40.38 to $USD 46.61</font>)
<dt>Out-of-print :
<dd>Then starting on 12/17/99 the dvds were made available for purchase in sets of two for <font color="red">5040 Yen</font> (~ $USD 38.92). These two-disc bundled sets are no longer available (apparently with one or two exceptions).
<dd>On 08/25/00 the dvds were then made available for purchase in two individual box sets (five dvds per set. http://www.cdjapan.co.jp lists these as "TOM & JERRY Encore BOX") for <font color="red">12600 Yen</font> (<font color="red">~ $USD 97.30</font>). These box sets also are no longer available.
<dt>Contents of the dvds :
<dd>For some reason, although Tom&Jerry is much beloved by fans, I have had an impossible time finding either any comprehensive sites on Tom&Jerry or especially any information on these dvds released in Japan such as the content of the dvds, whether or not the episodes released in cinemascope appear in their OAR on the dvds, and whether or not any of the episodes are edited.
Last night I finally dug up some detailed information which I'll post in a seperate post below.
<dt>Purpose of this post :
<dd>After encountering rumours and speculation, and in light of the <font color="red">~ $USD 150 to $USD 200</font> including s&h that it's going to cost you to own this set, I thought it was worthwhile to figure out with some certainty what's what.
<dd>This link http://tomandjerrycartoons.com/tjvideo.html raised what I thought were some of the important questions and concerns about which I'm seeking any confirmation or elaboration. So I've excerpted them below.</dl>
Regarding the issue of cut vs. uncut :<BR><font size="-2">(for a specific list of what was cut,<BR>see http://tomandjerrycartoons.com/tjedits.html and also
http://www.toonzone.net/looney/ltcuts/mgmcuts.html )</font><font size="-2">2. This particular box set had a sticker on the wrapper that said (in Japanese) "UN CUT VERSION". Finding this version is the tricky part. I looked in about 30 (literally) stores before I found this version. I found this box set in only one store in a section of Tokyo called "AKHIABARA." Also this box set and the cut versions look identical in packaging EXCEPT for the sticker. Be careful of this when shopping for it.
3. The content of the DVD's are completely uncut. This includes all Mammy, Black face, Indian, Mammy voice, Asian, and some of the more "violent" cuts that have been removed on all the other versions.
4. The total cost on the box set was 30,000 yen or roughly $280 USD. Interestingly enough the CUT version of the box set was 24,000 yen!</font>Regarding the matter of letterboxing<BR><font size="-2">(with respect to the cartoons that were released in cinemascope)</font>:<font size="-2">5. The one bad thing about these DVD's is that the cartoons are still not in letterbox/true format. Animation purists may get aggrivated when things get cut off or are formated improperly.</font>Regarding what was and was not omitted :<font size="-2">*note: I believe these disks contain all episodes except
the <font color=red>Gene Deitch years</font> (for a full listing, click <a href="http://tomandjerrycartoons.com/storylines2.html">here</a> )
and the following ... the Hanna Barbera years-- <font color=red>Busy Buddies, Egg and Jerry, Feedin the Kiddie, Slicked Up Pup, Tom's Photo Finish, Tops With Pops</font>
the later Chuck Jones years-- <font color=red>Shutterbugged Cat</font></font>Regarding the bonus Droopy cartoons :<font size="-2">Each disk also contains one Droopy cartoon as well. Though it should be noted that these are dubbed in Japanese only.</font>
benedict
05-05-02, 06:30 PM
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AutumnNights
05-05-02, 07:53 PM
The other night I came across an extremely comprehensive website http://looney.toonzone.net . In the forum http://forums.toonzone.net/ I found a <a href="http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?threadid=5629">thread</a> which lists in full the episodes on each dvd and goes into some preliminary discussion regarding what is and isn't edited.
Since the list is so long, I thought I'd post it last and before that quote what pertains to the questions I have that I raised in the earlier post. But as you'll see, though, unfortunately what was not addressed were all the other edits listed <a href="http://tomandjerrycartoons.com/tjedits.html">here</a> and to a limited extent <a href="http://www.toonzone.net/looney/ltcuts/mgmcuts.html">here</a>
<font size="-2">(The other important issue that is not raised in the thread I'm citing is the question of whether or not there is any difference, in regard to the matter of any editing and of possible cut/uncut counterparts , between the three currently available options for purchasing the Tom&Jerry dvds (individually, the two 5-disc box sets, and the three (4-disc 3-disc 3-disc) box sets.
In regards to this, here's what dvdtalk-member shaggy <a href="http://dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=2352196#post2352196">said</a> : )</font><font size="-2">I recieved my Tom-1 Tom-2 uncut boxsets today. I can confirm that they are uncut and have English soundtracks and the subtitles are optional. Also my source in Japan says all the Tom and Jerry DVDs are uncut, the only difference with these sets is that they are limited editions, and have the boxes and the DVD spines make a picture of Tom and Jerry. This is common in Japan, they seem to release entire seasons of TV shows in a limited boxset and after that you have to buy each volume seperately at a higher price per disc</font>
From http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?threadid=5629 :
<font size="-2">The T&Js with Mammy were dubbed copies and "The Little Orphan" is *sigh* edited. However the set DOES have UNCUT, crystal clear copies of "Saturday Evening Puss" and "His Mouse Friday".</font><font size="-2">As Thad stated, they are dubbed with the new African-American Mammy voice , but the visuals are as crystal clear as I've ever seen them . Since there were so few cartoons with Mammy in them, it's worth it to be able to watch the others in such a pristine state.</font><font size="-2">are the CinemaScope cartoons letterboxed on the Japanese T&J DVDs?
Unfortunately, they're not letterboxed. They're full-screen, which means we're probably losing 1/3 of the actual image. The titles are full-screen, however.... they should have left the entire cartoon on that way.</font>
(<font color="green">Green</font> = episodes directed by Chuck Jones )
<dt>Volume 2 :
<dd>Texas Tom
<dd><font color="green">Puss 'N' Boats</font>
<dd>That's My Mommy
<dd>Downbeat Bear
<dd><font color="green">Surf-Bored Cat</font>
<dd>Triplet Trouble
<dd>Mucho Mouse
<dd>The Flying Cat
<dd>The Bodyguard
<dd>The Little Orphan <font color="red">(*edited)</font>
<dd>Jerry's Cousin
<dd>Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse
<dd>Mice Follies
<dd>The Cat and the Mermouse
<dd>The Cat Concerto
<dd><font color="blue">Droopy Cartoon: Wild and Woolfy</font>
<dt>Volume 3 :
<dd>Mouse Trouble
<dd>Jerry And The Lion
<dd>Mouse In Manhattan
<dd>The Milky Waif
<dd>Cat Napping
<dd>Saturday Evening Puss <font color="red">(Original version)</font>
<dd>Hic-cup Pup
<dd>The Invisible Mouse
<dd>Million Dollar Cat
<dd>The Night Before Christmas
<dd>Polka Dot Puss
<dd>Two Little Indians
<dd>Trap Happy
<dd>Tom and Jerry At the Hollywood Bowl
<dd>Cueball Cat
<dd>Little Runaway
<dd><font color="blue">Droopy Cartoon: The Shooting Of Dan McGoo</font>
<dt>Volume 4 :
<dd>Fraidy Cat
<dd>Baby Butch
<dd>Johann Mouse
<dd>Pet Peeve
<dd><font color="green">The Mouse From H.U.N.G.E.R.</font>
<dd>The Dog House
<dd>Baby Puss
<dd>The Zoot Cat
<dd>Puss Gets The Boot
<dd>The Midnight Snack
<dd>Dog Trouble
<dd>Puss 'N' Toots
<dd>The Bowling Alley-cat
<dd><font color="green">Is There A Doctor In The Mouse</font>
<dd>Yankee Doodle Mouse
<dd><font color="blue">Droopy Cartoon: Northwest Hounded Police</font>
<dt>Volume 5 :
<dd>Fine Feathered Friend
<dd>Sufferin' Cats
<dd><font color="green">Snowbody Loves Me</font>
<dd>The Lonsome Mouse
<dd><font color="green">The Unshrinkable Jerry Mouse</font>
<dd>Puttin' On The Dog
<dd>The Mouse Comes To Dinner
<dd>Tee For Two
<dd>Springtime For Thomas
<dd><font color="green">Ah, Sweet Mouse-story Of Life</font>
<dd>Solid Serenade
<dd><font color="green">Tom-ic Energy</font>
<dd>Cat Fishin'
<dd>Quiet Please
<dd><font color="blue">Droopy Cartoon: Senor Droopy</font>
<dt>Volume 6 :
<dd>Part-Time Pal
<dd>Salt-Water Tabby
<dd><font color="green">Bad Day At Cat Rock</font>
<dd>A Mouse In The House
<dd><font color="green">The Brothers Carry-Mouse-Off</font>
<dd>Old Rockin' Chair Tom
<dd>The Truce Hurts
<dd>Professor Tom
<dd>Mouse Cleaning
<dd><font color="green">I'm Just Wild About Jerry</font>
<dd>Hatch Up Your Troubles
<dd><font color="green">Of Feline Bondage</font>
<dd>Love That Pup
<dd>Heavenly Puss
<dd><font color="blue">Droopy Cartoon: Out-Foxed</font>
<dt>Volume 7 :
<dd>Tennis Chumps
<dd>Little Quacker
<dd><font color="green">The Year Of The Mouse</font>
<dd>Safety Second
<dd><font color="green">Jerry, Jerry, Quite Contrary</font>
<dd>The Framed Cat
<dd>Casanova Cat
<dd>Jerry And The Goldfish
<dd>Sleepy-Time Tom
<dd><font color="green">Love Me, Love My Mouse</font>
<dd>His Mouse Friday <font color="red">(Original Dialogue Intact)</font>
<dd><font color="green">The A-Tom-Inable Snowman</font>
<dd>Nit-Witty Kitty
<dd>The Duck Doctor
<dd><font color="blue">Droopy Cartoon: Dumb Hounded</font> (What!! Twice??)
<dt>Volume 8 :
<dd>Fit To Be Tied
<dd>Push-Button Kitty
<dd><font color="green">Filet Meow</font>
<dd>Cruise Cat
<dd><font color="green">Catty Cornered</font>
<dd>The Two Mouseketeers
<dd>Little School Mouse
<dd>Jerry And Jumbo
<dd>Smitten Kitten
<dd><font color="green">Cat And Dupli-cat</font>
<dd>Life With Tom
<dd><font color="green">O Solar Meow</font>
<dd>Posse Cat
<dd>The Missing Mouse
<dd><font color="blue">Droopy Cartoon: Dixieland Droopy</font>
<dt>Volume 9 :
<dd>Downhearted Duckling
<dd>Touche, pussycat!
<dd><font color="green">Rock 'N' Rodent</font>
<dd>Southbound Duckling
<dd><font color="green">Cannery Rodent</font>
<dd>Pup On A Picnic
<dd>Puppy Tale
<dd>Mouse For Sale
<dd>Designs On Jerry
<dd>Tom And Cherie
<dd><font color="green">Advance and Be Mechanized</font>
<dd>Smarty Cat
<dd>Pecos Pest
<dd><font color="blue">Droopy Cartoon: Daredevil Droopy</font>
<dt>Volume 10 :
<dd>Muscle Beach Tom
<dd>Blue Cat Blues
<dd>Barbecue Brawl
<dd><font color="green">Purr-chance to Dream</font>
<dd>Timid Tabby
<dd>Happy Go Ducky
<dd>Royal Cat Nap
<dd>The Vanishing Duck
<dd><font color="green">Matinee Mouse</font>
<dd>Robin Hoodwinked
<dd>Tot Watchers
<dd>The Flying Sorceress
<dd><font color="blue">Droopy Cartoon: Droopy's Double Trouble</font></dl>
AutumnNights
05-05-02, 08:51 PM
And this is the last bit of information that I'll add to this matter. I thought it'd be worthwhile to share the resources that I came across :
<font size="-2">(P.S. Are the 13 cartoons directed by Gene Deitch available ANYWHERE in the world on any format ? If anyone has any information, I would be very grateful. Thanks ! =) )</font>
<font color="blue"><dl><dt>( For a full listing and synopsis of the Tom&Jerry episodes directed by <b>...</b>
<dd><b>...</b> William Hanna & Joseph Barbera from 1940 to 1958, click <a href="http://tomandjerrycartoons.com/tj.html">here</a> and <a href="http://tomandjerrycartoons.com/tjframe.html">here</a>
<dd><b>...</b> Gene Deitch from 1961 to 1962 click <a href="http://tomandjerrycartoons.com/storylines2.html">here</a> and <a href="http://www.tomandjerryonline.com/episodes.cfm">here</a>
<dd><b>...</b> Chuck Jones from 1963 to 1967 click <a href="http://www.tomandjerryonline.com/episodes.cfm">here</a> )</dl></font>
<dl><dt><font size="-2">Here's a listing of the "William Hanna & Joseph Barbera"-era Tom&Jerry episodes released in cinemascope : <a href="http://www.toonzone.net/looney/picts/cinemascope/" target="_blank">http://www.toonzone.net/looney/picts/cinemascope/</a>
<dl><dt>1954 :
<dd>"Pet Peeve" (11/20/54) , "Touche, Pussycat !" (12/18/54)
<dt>1955 :
<dd>"Southbound Duckling" (3/12/55), "Pup On a Picnic" (4/30/55) , "Tom and Cherie" (9/9/55) , "That's My Mommy" (11/19/55)
<dt>1956 :
<dd>"The Flying Sorceress" (1/27/56), "The Egg and Jerry" (3/23/56) , "Busy Buddies" (5/4/56), "Muscle Beach Tom" (9/7/56), "Downbeat Bear" (10/21/56), "Blue Cat Blues"(11/6/56) , "Barbeque Brawl" (12/14/56)
<dt>1957 :
<dd>"Tops With Pops" (2/22/57), "Timid Tabby" (4/19/57), "Feedin' the Kiddie" (6/7/57) , "Mucho Mouse" (9/6/57), "Tom's Photo Finish" (11/1/57)
<dt>1958:
<dd>"Happy Go Ducky" (1/3/58), "Royal Cat Nap" (3/7/58), "The Vanishing Duck" (5/2/58), "Robin Hoodwinked" (6/6/58) ,"Tot Watchers" (8/1/58)</dl></font></dl>
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"The Tom & Jerry cartoons made BEFORE the CinemaScope cartoons came out (all CinemaScope T&J's have the CS credit.) were meant to be seen at 1.33:1
The cartoons during the CinemaScope period (1955-1957) were meant to be seen at 2.55:1. BUT...there's a few CinemaScope cartoons made at this time that were filmed TWICE...once in Academy Ratio (1.33:1) and then again in 2.55:1 CinemaScope.
The Gene Deitch and Chuck Jones Tom & Jerry cartoons made in the 1960's are meant to be seen at 1.66:1 or 1.77:1 " -->
<!-- Ah.. Great point and great info ! You're right -- It is woth mentioning that the "Hanna BarBera" & "Chuck Jones" episodes were all released on laserdisc.
Since I already have compiled a lot of other information on Tom & Jerry and since it can be a little time consuming to keep hopping from one site to the other to get the whole picture of what's out there, I thought I might as well post some information on the laserdiscs.
From http://tomandjerrycartoons.com/tjvideo.html (and also http://www.geocities.com/mgmshorts/laserdisc.htm):
The Art of Tom & Jerry Volume 1, MGM 102682
Directors : Rudolf Ising & Hanna-Barbera
Puss Gets the Boot 02/10/40 ---Just Ducky 09/5/53
The Art of Tom & Jerry Volume 2, MGM 103913
Directors : Hanna-Barbera
Episodes : Two Little Indians 10/17/53 --- Tot Watchers 08/1/58
<a href="http://www.toonzone.net/looney/picts/cinemascope/">
Note</a> : All the Tom and Jerry cartoons, "Good Will To Men", "Give and Tyke", and "Scat Cats" have been released on The Art of Tom and Jerry Volume 2 laserdisc set in letterboxed format. "Millionaire Droopy" and "Cat's Meow" have been released on The Complete Tex Avery laserdisc set in letterboxed format.
The Art of Tom & Jerry Volume 3, MGM 104876
Directors : Chuck Jones
Episodes : Penthouse Mouse 1963 --- Purr Chance to Dream 1967
Tom & Jerry Classics, MGM 102219
Directors : Hanna-Barbera & Rudolf Ising
Episodes : Cat Fishin', Dog Trouble, Heavenly Puss, Jerry and Jumbo, A Mouse in the House, Old Rockin' Chair Tom, Part Time Pal, Puss Gets the Boot, Quiet Please, Salt Water Tabby, The Midnight Snack, Solid Serenade, The MouseComes to Dinner, Yankee Doodle Mouse
"All the Gene Deitch Tom and Jerry cartoons were indeed released on a Japanese released laserdisc called "Tom and Jerry With Droopy". The other half of the LD was a selection of Tex Avery's Droopy cartoons. I am not sure if it's still available, a quick Internet search didn't turn up anything. "
""The Little Orphan" is available in its complete version on The Art of Tom & Jerry Volume 1 on laserdisc, with Tom's pigtales (I should know, I got a copy off of that laserdisc!) "
"There's nothing cut in "Yankee Doodle Mouse" on the T&J DVD release. There seems to be cuts in all prints, after the part where Jerry smacks Tom in the face with a 2x4, and when Tom explodes from a firecracker for the first time. I doubt anything's edited, the first one probably fades out to early (a common mistake in films of the 1940s). " -->
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The Midnight Snack
The Night Before Christmas
Fraidy Cat
Dog Trouble
Puss n' Toots
The Bowling Alley Cat
Fine Feathered Friend
Sufferin' Cats!
(10)The Lonesome Mouse
The Yankee Doodle Mouse
Baby Puss
The Zoot Cat
The Million Dollar Cat
The Bodyguard
Puttin' on the Dog
Mouse Troubles
The Mouse Comes to Dinner
Mouse in Manhattan
(20)Tee for Two
Flirty Birdy
Quiet Please
Springtime for Thomas
The Milky Waif
Trap Happy
Solid Serenade
Cat Fishin'
Part Time Pal
The Cat Concerto
(30)Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse
Salt Water Tabby
A Mouse in the House
The Invisible Mouse
Kitty Foiled
The Truce Hurts
Old Rockin' Chair Tom
Professor Tom
Mouse Cleaning
Polka Dot Puss
(40)The Little Orphan
Hatch Up Your Troubles
Heavenly Puss
The Cat and the Mermouse
Jerry's Diary
Tennis Chumps
Little Quacker
Saturday Evening Puss
Texas Tom
Jerry and the Lion
(50)Safety Second
The Hollywood Bowl
The Framed Cat
Cueball Cat
Casanova Cat
Jerry and the Goldfish
Jerry's Cousin
Sleepy Time Tom
His Mouse Friday
Nit-Witty Kitty
(60)Cat Napping
The Flying Cat
Duck Doctor
The Two Mouseketeers
Smitten Kitten
Triplet Trouble
Little Runaway
Fit to Be Tied
Push-Button Kitty
Cruise Cat
(70)The Dog House
The Missing Mouse
Jerry and Jumbo
Johann Mouse
That's My Pup
(75)Just Ducky
Blue Monday
What a Lion!
Two Little Indians
Life with Tom
Puppy Tale
Posse Cat
Hic-Cup Pup
Little School Mouse
Baby Butch
Mice Follies
Neopolitan Mouse
Downhearted Duckling
Pet Peeve
Touché, ***** Cat
Southbound Duckling
Pup on a Picnic
Mouse for Sale
Designs on Jerry
Tom and Cherie
Smarty Cat
Pecos Pest
That's My Mommy
Good Will to Men
The Flying Sorceress
The Egg and Jerry
Busy Buddies
Muscle Beach Tom
Downbeat Bear
Blue Cat Blues
Barbecue Brawl
Tops with Pops
Give and Tyke
Timid Tabby
Feedin' the Kiddie
Scat Cats
Mucho Mouse
Tom's Photo Finish
Happy Go Ducky
Royal Cat Nap
The Vanishing Duck
Robin Hoodwinked
Tot Watchers -->
sparks
05-08-02, 08:16 AM
Tom and Jerry was released on 3 box sets in the US. Of course they were released in Japan but with less cartoons and a few not on the US versions.
One cartoon that was "NOT" edited on the Japanese box was "Saturday Evening Puss". The Africian American maid was there, not the white teenage female babysitter.
The Japanese box has been on eBay, but it's a little expensive for just one cartoon...well, a couple.
The last box set was devoted to Chuck Jones and some or all were in widescreen...mine is still sealed.
I bet if and when they release them in the States, they will be Cartoon Network edited!!!
shaggy
05-12-02, 03:18 PM
This is a great thread and I'm glad all this info is now available. I'm really enjoying my set. So does anyone know if the Gene Deitch cartoons were ever released? VHS/LD/DVD?
Also i found a copy of the book Tom and Jerry Fifty Years of Cat and Mouse by T.R Adams, it a must for fans and it was the source for a lot of the info on the sites discussed earlier in this thread.
sparks
05-12-02, 04:29 PM
There's also "Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies" a complete illustraded guide to the Warner Bros. cartoons by Jerry Beck and Will Friedwald. Everything they ever did.