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I'm still not exactly sure what happened, but I think it's really disappointing that the thread in Other announcing Rosa Parks' death was moved to the politics forum. I think it reflects very poorly on this forum and society that mourning her death, and the associated discussion of her life, is considered a political discussion.
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I moved/merged it because there was already a thread in there about it. As it stands since she was a "political" figure (not in the sense of any elected office but in the sense of someone who became the focal point of a political movement) having the thread in the Politics forum makes sense IMHO. Personally I think it's more of a limitation/non-agreement over exactly what the "Politics" forum is supposed to be.
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Originally Posted by LurkerDan
I'm still not exactly sure what happened, but I think it's really disappointing that the thread in Other announcing Rosa Parks' death was moved to the politics forum. I think it reflects very poorly on this forum and society that mourning her death, and the associated discussion of her life, is considered a political discussion.
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If you find them, post them... I searched in vain today.
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Sometimes the way we handle threads changes over time and maintaining absolute consistency probably isn't the foremost goal moderators are striving for. But we do keep in mind that you can always count on dozens of people to point out when it changes so it isn't done capriciously. How to handle duplicate threads and new ones that may be in the wrong forum is often done with respect to the current existing threads and flow of discussion.
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Originally Posted by LurkerDan
I'm still not exactly sure what happened, but I think it's really disappointing that the thread in Other announcing Rosa Parks' death was moved to the politics forum. I think it reflects very poorly on this forum and society that mourning her death, and the associated discussion of her life, is considered a political discussion.
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I don't think that just because a thread is in a certain forum means it has to be used for discussion. Politics seems the only place for that. When a tv star dies, the thread goes in tv. When a musican dies, it goes in music. When a political activist dies, it makes perfect sense for a thread to be in politics. Only a few were using it for discussion and had I know it would have taken that direction, I would have posted in Other (or perhaps not at all).
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There is a possibility that it will truly become physically and emotionally impossible to post in Otter due to the fact that all posts must be sensible and yet any sensible material has been moved to some other Forum for like minded people to discuss them amongst themselves as Otter appears to become represented by apes who have constructed rudimentary tools but are really not ready for prime time players.
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While I understand your frustration, Preacher, I also understand why a thread about the death of someone so important to the political history of our country was moved to the forum which was designed for discussion of such issues.
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Originally Posted by Bandoman
While I understand your frustration, Preacher, I also understand why a thread about the death of someone so important to the politica histroy of our country was moved to the forum which was designed for discussion of such issues.
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Originally Posted by LurkerDan
And then people are allowed to blatantly threadcrap in it, and cry "but this is the politics forum, we're supposed to discuss politics here!"
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Perhaps one could hope that a thread remembering the accomplishments of one person upon their death, may not be the place for personal attacks and prevaricatory or judgemental comments.
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I essentially agree, Preacher, but you started this thread as a discussion of why it shouldn't have been moved from Other to the Political forum. My point is that the thread would have had a percentage of irrelevant, and potentially obnoxious, posts no matter where it was (and some might argue that the signal to noise ration would have been even lower had it remained in Other).
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Originally Posted by Bandoman
I essentially agree, Preacher, but you started this thread as a discussion of why it shouldn't have been moved from Other to the Political forum. My point is that the thread would have had a percentage of irrelevant, and potentially obnoxious, posts no matter where it was (and some might argue that the signal to noise ration would have been even lower had it remained in Other).
And second, your responses here seem to say "people are jerks, deal with it". True, of course, but I think it's fair to question why people are jerks.
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Oops - sorry Dan. It's your thread.
I didn't mean to say "people are jerks, deal with it" so much as to say "you're going to see jerks no matter what forum you're in." I too would have preferred that the thread remain a tribute to a brave woman, but it's not up to me or you to dictate the direction of a thread. The discussion takes on a life of its own. Was it "nice" for someone to point out, in that thread, that there was someone else who, in the poster's opinion, made greater contributions to civil rights? No, but at least it was a reasoned opinion and not a rude-for-the-sake-of-being-rude comment.
I didn't mean to say "people are jerks, deal with it" so much as to say "you're going to see jerks no matter what forum you're in." I too would have preferred that the thread remain a tribute to a brave woman, but it's not up to me or you to dictate the direction of a thread. The discussion takes on a life of its own. Was it "nice" for someone to point out, in that thread, that there was someone else who, in the poster's opinion, made greater contributions to civil rights? No, but at least it was a reasoned opinion and not a rude-for-the-sake-of-being-rude comment.
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Originally Posted by Bandoman
Oops - sorry Dan. It's your thread.
I didn't mean to say "people are jerks, deal with it" so much as to say "you're going to see jerks no matter what forum you're in." I too would have preferred that the thread remain a tribute to a brave woman, but it's not up to me or you to dictate the direction of a thread. The discussion takes on a life of its own. Was it "nice" for someone to point out, in that thread, that there was someone else who, in the poster's opinion, made greater contributions to civil rights? No, but at least it was a reasoned opinion and not a rude-for-the-sake-of-being-rude comment.
I didn't mean to say "people are jerks, deal with it" so much as to say "you're going to see jerks no matter what forum you're in." I too would have preferred that the thread remain a tribute to a brave woman, but it's not up to me or you to dictate the direction of a thread. The discussion takes on a life of its own. Was it "nice" for someone to point out, in that thread, that there was someone else who, in the poster's opinion, made greater contributions to civil rights? No, but at least it was a reasoned opinion and not a rude-for-the-sake-of-being-rude comment.
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Speaking of backhanded attacks, rude comments, and threadcraps, what about people harshly criticizing the OP of a pet loss thread? What, that was different?
All the above are allowed though, but I think it's the really inflammatory posts that usually would catch the attention of the moderators then they make a judgment call on it. But it's still my opinion that the poster in question didn't even make any such comments. The only problem I saw were the (over)reactions of some members against the poster.
All the above are allowed though, but I think it's the really inflammatory posts that usually would catch the attention of the moderators then they make a judgment call on it. But it's still my opinion that the poster in question didn't even make any such comments. The only problem I saw were the (over)reactions of some members against the poster.
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All the above are allowed though, but I think it's the really inflammatory posts that usually would catch the attention of the moderators then they make a judgment call on it. But it's still my opinion that the poster in question didn't even make any such comments. The only problem I saw were the (over)reactions of some members against the poster.
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Of course I decided the post wasn't inflammatory, but some people overreacted anyway.
My idea of an inflammatory post would have been someone rejoicing her death or cursing her name.
The worst the poster in question did was simply belittle her legacy. Hardly inflammatory.
My idea of an inflammatory post would have been someone rejoicing her death or cursing her name.
The worst the poster in question did was simply belittle her legacy. Hardly inflammatory.
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Of course I decided the post wasn't inflammatory, but some people overreacted anyway.
My idea of an inflammatory post would have been someone rejoicing her death or cursing her name.
The worst the poster in question did was simply belittle her legacy. Hardly inflammatory.
My idea of an inflammatory post would have been someone rejoicing her death or cursing her name.
The worst the poster in question did was simply belittle her legacy. Hardly inflammatory.